Home Depot sells a heavy-duty mirror/picture hanger that doesn't need a
stud. It's in the picture-hanger section, OOK brand. It's supposed to be
able to hold 100 pounds or something like that. It uses several, angled
nails into the sheetrock.

We have a reasonably heavy vanity mirror that I've used one of these to hang
for about 5 years now. I was dubious, but since the mirror is probably
closer to 40 pounds and the thing was rated for 100, I decided to try it--
so far so good.

In our old house, I put nails into the studs, which didn't end up where I
wanted the mirror, so I had to put them at different heights so it would
work out and center where I wanted it to. The OOK hanger was sure easier.

As for the person who said "don't use wire" on a heavy mirror -- it can
work, you just need heavy-duty wire. Our mirror is hung with wire, and it's
a thick, twisted piece much, much heavier than standard picture wire
(actually it might be the same stuff, just lots of pieces twisted together).

-Tim

"Tim Fischer" wrote in message
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As for the person who said "don't use wire" on a heavy mirror -- it can
work, you just need heavy-duty wire. Our mirror is hung with wire, and
it's a thick, twisted piece much, much heavier than standard picture wire
(actually it might be the same stuff, just lots of pieces twisted
together).

-Tim


Tim,

Your mirror, your house you do what you like.

All the mirrors and big pictures sold today include a warning label saying,
" Do not hang using wire." As a licensed, insured contractor I have to do
thing the absolute best, safest possible way.

When I advise others free of charge even though I may have no legal
obligation to do so I advise them of the safest way to do the job. What
they choose to do with that information is completely their choice.

Colbyt

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Your mirror, your house you do what you like.

All the mirrors and big pictures sold today include a warning label
saying, " Do not hang using wire." As a licensed, insured contractor I
have to do thing the absolute best, safest possible way.

When I advise others free of charge even though I may have no legal
obligation to do so I advise them of the safest way to do the job. What
they choose to do with that information is completely their choice.

I'm not denying your way is better. As far as I know, the wire on our
mirror is FROM the manufacturer, though. It's reasonably old (at least 25
years, probably more). Hasn't fallen in all that time, anyway...

If I were sleeping over the thing, I'd probably screw it through the frame
into the studs grin

-Tim

-Tim

"Tim Fischer" wrote in message
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I'm not denying your way is better. As far as I know, the wire on our
mirror is FROM the manufacturer, though. It's reasonably old (at least 25
years, probably more). Hasn't fallen in all that time, anyway...

If I were sleeping over the thing, I'd probably screw it through the frame
into the studs grin


Hey Tim,

A true story about when I became so passionate on the subject.

Hanging a mirror for a client, I said , "I'm not sure we should hang this
mirror on this wire".

"It hung just fine in my last two houses and in my Grandmother's house
before that", was the reply.

Hung the damn thing, walked into the other room and heard a thud,whap, bang.
The wire broke, the mirror hit the mantle, bounced off, hit the back of a
leather couch and landed on the carpet. Total damage was a scuff mark on
the back of the couch.

Never again will I be that lucky.

Colbyt

Colbyt wrote:
"Tim Fischer" wrote in message
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I'm not denying your way is better. As far as I know, the wire on our
mirror is FROM the manufacturer, though. It's reasonably old (at least 25
years, probably more). Hasn't fallen in all that time, anyway...

If I were sleeping over the thing, I'd probably screw it through the frame
into the studs grin


Hey Tim,

A true story about when I became so passionate on the subject.

Hanging a mirror for a client, I said , "I'm not sure we should hang this
mirror on this wire".

"It hung just fine in my last two houses and in my Grandmother's house
before that", was the reply.

Hung the damn thing, walked into the other room and heard a thud,whap, bang.
The wire broke, the mirror hit the mantle, bounced off, hit the back of a
leather couch and landed on the carpet. Total damage was a scuff mark on
the back of the couch.

Never again will I be that lucky.

Colbyt

Wow! Better to be lucky than good! You must have used up a whole of
luck on that day.

Anyway.......gentlemen, when those of you who are for or against
hanging heavy oblects with "wire"......

Do some of you mean single strand wire? Do some of you mean
multi-strand braided or twisted aire? kind like pseudo-wire rope?

I have no problem using muti-strand steel wire to hand large pictures
or mirrors. As long as the mounting locations & the wire length are
such that large additional forces are not applied to the wire.

I would never use single strand wire.

The fact that some objects come with a mfr's CYA notice really doesn't
hold much water as to whether "wire" is safe or not.

It is just that...... a CYA because the mfr has no control over what
type of wire will be used, what size & how it will be installed.

Multi-stand wire is plenty safe when sized & installed correctly.

cheers
Bob

BobK207 wrote:
Colbyt wrote:
"Tim Fischer" wrote in message
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I'm not denying your way is better. As far as I know, the wire on our
mirror is FROM the manufacturer, though. It's reasonably old (at least 25
years, probably more). Hasn't fallen in all that time, anyway...

If I were sleeping over the thing, I'd probably screw it through the frame
into the studs grin


Hey Tim,

A true story about when I became so passionate on the subject.

Hanging a mirror for a client, I said , "I'm not sure we should hang this
mirror on this wire".

"It hung just fine in my last two houses and in my Grandmother's house
before that", was the reply.

Hung the damn thing, walked into the other room and heard a thud,whap, bang.
The wire broke, the mirror hit the mantle, bounced off, hit the back of a
leather couch and landed on the carpet. Total damage was a scuff mark on
the back of the couch.

Never again will I be that lucky.

Colbyt

Wow! Better to be lucky than good! You must have used up a whole of
luck on that day.

Anyway.......gentlemen, when those of you who are for or against
hanging heavy oblects with "wire"......

Do some of you mean single strand wire? Do some of you mean
multi-strand braided or twisted aire? kind like pseudo-wire rope?

I have no problem using muti-strand steel wire to hand large pictures
or mirrors. As long as the mounting locations & the wire length are
such that large additional forces are not applied to the wire.

I would never use single strand wire.

The fact that some objects come with a mfr's CYA notice really doesn't
hold much water as to whether "wire" is safe or not.

It is just that...... a CYA because the mfr has no control over what
type of wire will be used, what size & how it will be installed.

Multi-stand wire is plenty safe when sized & installed correctly.

cheers
Bob


fya-

http://www.bearwood.com/P14.htm

http://www.bearwood.com/shop/searchr...ture%5FHangers

On heavy items I use a 2 or 3 hole strap hanger & multistrand wre

I doubt if the mirror in this thread weighs more than 50 pounds so a 2
hole hanger and 100 pound wire (allowable wire capacity) would be more
than enough.

I like to use coated 1/16" wire rope (aircraft cable)

cheers
Bob