re-painting tile question
Our bathroom tile, around the shower/tub, had previously been painted.
We didn't even realize it, as it looked very good. But started peeling recently, so we decided to try to re-paint it. We sanded the peeling parts off, which was mainly off the edge of some of the tiles. I tested one of the tiles with primer and paint, one coat each. It covers fine in terms of the color, but you can tell where the ridge is between where the old paint was peeled/sanded off, and where it remained. I asked at HD, and the guy suggested using lightweight spackle to raise the lower part and then sand it. I tried that, but the spackle doesn't stick to the tile very well (if at all; it's drying now), and it mainly crumbled away. I've always used regular joint compound for drywall stuff, so this is probably the nature of lightweight spackle. Anyway, any suggestions on my situation? I'll try a second coat of primer and paint and see if that helps, but not optimistic about that. Should I try getting ALL the old paint off? If so, should I use some solvent as opposed to sanding, as the sanding of the peeling part didn't seem to touch the stuff still adhered. Thanks. |
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Anyway, any suggestions on my situation? I'll try a second coat of primer and paint and see if that helps, but not optimistic about that. Should I try getting ALL the old paint off? If so, should I use some solvent as opposed to sanding, as the sanding of the peeling part didn't seem to touch the stuff still adhered. Thanks. Contact a tile refinisher in your area. I had this process done, and have been very happy with the results: http://kottkoatings.com/koated_gallery.html There are similar competing processes. Look for tub and tile refinishers in your Yellow Pages. Caveat: I no longer own the home where I had this done, but talked to several very happy repeat landlord customers who wer epleased with the longevity. The cost was very reasonable too. Best Regards, -- Todd H. http://www.toddh.net/ |
re-painting tile question
Deal with a paint store not HD for this, of course they would say use
compound, bad advise, stripper will remove it, finish with quality oil. |
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Al Bundy wrote: Painted? I never heard of anyone doing that. Maybe it was common once before but it sounds dumb second only to the HD guy saying to spackle it. oh hell yes.. i've seen this alot. it's not bad if the tile is prepped before you paint it Iiiiii've never painted a tile, but I imagine a good soaking with muriatic acid would make a nice bonding surface paint is nothing more than colored adhesive |
re-painting tile question
Just re-tile, when you factor the time used to paint it & prepare it, it's
better spent on doing a proper job. Better resale value as well. Most punters don't like painted tiles. wrote in message ... Our bathroom tile, around the shower/tub, had previously been painted. We didn't even realize it, as it looked very good. But started peeling recently, so we decided to try to re-paint it. We sanded the peeling parts off, which was mainly off the edge of some of the tiles. I tested one of the tiles with primer and paint, one coat each. It covers fine in terms of the color, but you can tell where the ridge is between where the old paint was peeled/sanded off, and where it remained. I asked at HD, and the guy suggested using lightweight spackle to raise the lower part and then sand it. I tried that, but the spackle doesn't stick to the tile very well (if at all; it's drying now), and it mainly crumbled away. I've always used regular joint compound for drywall stuff, so this is probably the nature of lightweight spackle. Anyway, any suggestions on my situation? I'll try a second coat of primer and paint and see if that helps, but not optimistic about that. Should I try getting ALL the old paint off? If so, should I use some solvent as opposed to sanding, as the sanding of the peeling part didn't seem to touch the stuff still adhered. Thanks. |
re-painting tile question
Thanks all for your suggestions. I'll see if I can get it done for
$350; I'm guessing it would be more than that now, as the poster said it's been awhile since his job was done. Otherwise, maybe just stripping it myself, but then I still have concerns about the paint job; we've also got a soap dish and towel rack that we'd have to paint, which seems harder, too. I figured I'd get a lot of just re-do it responses; I've done patch jobs on floors before, but don't like the thought of dealing with cutting tiles and the small grout lines. Anyway, thanks again for all the responses. On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:26:26 +1000, "glenn P" wrote: Just re-tile, when you factor the time used to paint it & prepare it, it's better spent on doing a proper job. Better resale value as well. Most punters don't like painted tiles. wrote in message .. . Our bathroom tile, around the shower/tub, had previously been painted. We didn't even realize it, as it looked very good. But started peeling recently, so we decided to try to re-paint it. We sanded the peeling parts off, which was mainly off the edge of some of the tiles. I tested one of the tiles with primer and paint, one coat each. It covers fine in terms of the color, but you can tell where the ridge is between where the old paint was peeled/sanded off, and where it remained. I asked at HD, and the guy suggested using lightweight spackle to raise the lower part and then sand it. I tried that, but the spackle doesn't stick to the tile very well (if at all; it's drying now), and it mainly crumbled away. I've always used regular joint compound for drywall stuff, so this is probably the nature of lightweight spackle. Anyway, any suggestions on my situation? I'll try a second coat of primer and paint and see if that helps, but not optimistic about that. Should I try getting ALL the old paint off? If so, should I use some solvent as opposed to sanding, as the sanding of the peeling part didn't seem to touch the stuff still adhered. Thanks. |
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Thanks all for your suggestions. I'll see if I can get it done for $350; I'm guessing it would be more than that now, as the poster said it's been awhile since his job was done. It was less than a year ago I had this done is the good news. The bad news is that in my job, there was no paint to strip off. And estimate from a tile refinisher doesn't cost anything though. -- Todd H. http://www.toddh.net/ |
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:10:24 -0400, wrote:
On 21 Sep 2006 09:04:45 -0500, (Todd H.) wrote: writes: Thanks all for your suggestions. I'll see if I can get it done for $350; I'm guessing it would be more than that now, as the poster said it's been awhile since his job was done. It was less than a year ago I had this done is the good news. The bad news is that in my job, there was no paint to strip off. And estimate from a tile refinisher doesn't cost anything though. Thanks again. Do you know if they spray painted yours? The test tile I did with a roller looked okay, but not as smooth as it had been, so I'm guessing it was sprayed before. Also, don't know how to do the soap dish and towel bar and have it look good without spraying (figure the brush strokes would show?; no experience with a brush). But also never done spraying, so hesitate to do that. Nevermind... I just checked out the link you had sent which shows them spraying it. I've got calls in to a couple of places here. Thanks again. |
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On 21 Sep 2006 09:04:45 -0500, (Todd H.) wrote: writes: Thanks all for your suggestions. I'll see if I can get it done for $350; I'm guessing it would be more than that now, as the poster said it's been awhile since his job was done. It was less than a year ago I had this done is the good news. The bad news is that in my job, there was no paint to strip off. And estimate from a tile refinisher doesn't cost anything though. Thanks again. Do you know if they spray painted yours? The test tile I did with a roller looked okay, but not as smooth as it had been, so I'm guessing it was sprayed before. Also, don't know how to do the soap dish and towel bar and have it look good without spraying (figure the brush strokes would show?; no experience with a brush). But also never done spraying, so hesitate to do that. They used a air sprayer and heavey duty ventilation. It wasn't just a paint, it was a coating that chemically and phyically bonded to the tile surface. http://kottkoatings.com/koated_gallery.html -- Todd H. http://www.toddh.net/ |
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On 21 Sep 2006 15:34:10 -0500, (Todd H.) wrote:
writes: On 21 Sep 2006 09:04:45 -0500, (Todd H.) wrote: writes: Thanks all for your suggestions. I'll see if I can get it done for $350; I'm guessing it would be more than that now, as the poster said it's been awhile since his job was done. It was less than a year ago I had this done is the good news. The bad news is that in my job, there was no paint to strip off. And estimate from a tile refinisher doesn't cost anything though. Thanks again. Do you know if they spray painted yours? The test tile I did with a roller looked okay, but not as smooth as it had been, so I'm guessing it was sprayed before. Also, don't know how to do the soap dish and towel bar and have it look good without spraying (figure the brush strokes would show?; no experience with a brush). But also never done spraying, so hesitate to do that. They used a air sprayer and heavey duty ventilation. It wasn't just a paint, it was a coating that chemically and phyically bonded to the tile surface. http://kottkoatings.com/koated_gallery.html Thanks. I got a quote of $550 from one guy, though that was also based on me first stripping the old off; he wouldn't do that himself because it's too much work (probably just not his line of work, too, I'm guessing). I wonder if what's on there now is also that type of coating, as the sanding of the peeled part didn't do much to the rest. If so, then don't know how well our initial plan of painting it ourselves would work. Jeez... My wife just wants to get this done, so she went out and bought the paint already, but I'm trying to make sure it's the right way first. Guess I'll wait for other call-backs, and check on their procedures, too. Thanks again. |
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"chili palmer" wrote in
oups.com: Al Bundy wrote: Painted? I never heard of anyone doing that. Maybe it was common once before but it sounds dumb second only to the HD guy saying to spackle it. oh hell yes.. i've seen this alot. Well I'll be..."It just goes to show ya. It's always sumthin'." :-) it's not bad if the tile is prepped before you paint it Iiiiii've never painted a tile, but I imagine a good soaking with muriatic acid would make a nice bonding surface The last tile prepping acid mix had the ratio if you actually want to etch tile...without paint on them I assume. paint is nothing more than colored adhesive |
re-painting tile question
Actually, cutiing tiles & grouting is the cake end of the job.
Removing the old ones, and preparing the surface are the hardest DIY jobs I have tackled, and I've tackled quite a few with success... wrote in message ... Thanks all for your suggestions. I'll see if I can get it done for $350; I'm guessing it would be more than that now, as the poster said it's been awhile since his job was done. Otherwise, maybe just stripping it myself, but then I still have concerns about the paint job; we've also got a soap dish and towel rack that we'd have to paint, which seems harder, too. I figured I'd get a lot of just re-do it responses; I've done patch jobs on floors before, but don't like the thought of dealing with cutting tiles and the small grout lines. Anyway, thanks again for all the responses. On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:26:26 +1000, "glenn P" wrote: Just re-tile, when you factor the time used to paint it & prepare it, it's better spent on doing a proper job. Better resale value as well. Most punters don't like painted tiles. wrote in message . .. Our bathroom tile, around the shower/tub, had previously been painted. We didn't even realize it, as it looked very good. But started peeling recently, so we decided to try to re-paint it. We sanded the peeling parts off, which was mainly off the edge of some of the tiles. I tested one of the tiles with primer and paint, one coat each. It covers fine in terms of the color, but you can tell where the ridge is between where the old paint was peeled/sanded off, and where it remained. I asked at HD, and the guy suggested using lightweight spackle to raise the lower part and then sand it. I tried that, but the spackle doesn't stick to the tile very well (if at all; it's drying now), and it mainly crumbled away. I've always used regular joint compound for drywall stuff, so this is probably the nature of lightweight spackle. Anyway, any suggestions on my situation? I'll try a second coat of primer and paint and see if that helps, but not optimistic about that. Should I try getting ALL the old paint off? If so, should I use some solvent as opposed to sanding, as the sanding of the peeling part didn't seem to touch the stuff still adhered. Thanks. |
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On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:52:01 +1000, "glenn P"
wrote: Actually, cutiing tiles & grouting is the cake end of the job. Removing the old ones, and preparing the surface are the hardest DIY jobs I have tackled, and I've tackled quite a few with success... Really? Prepping the surface on my floor was a bit, but in this case it would just be putting up new drywall. And I've always been quite handy with a hammer :) Someone posted that HD will cut the tiles, but they won't, so I would have to deal with that. Grouting the floor was easy enough, and maybe the small lines on the walls would even be; don't know. Then there's also the small caulk lines. Anyway, I'm going to patch the part that initially came up at the bottom (just dremeling the old grout and thinset off; already replaced the bottom drywall) and try to repair it, then try to use some water/citrus-based stripper to get the old off, and paint it myself. Worse case, since we already have the paint, I wasted some time and start over. Still contemplating getting a spray gun to try the painting that way, though. wrote in message .. . Thanks all for your suggestions. I'll see if I can get it done for $350; I'm guessing it would be more than that now, as the poster said it's been awhile since his job was done. Otherwise, maybe just stripping it myself, but then I still have concerns about the paint job; we've also got a soap dish and towel rack that we'd have to paint, which seems harder, too. I figured I'd get a lot of just re-do it responses; I've done patch jobs on floors before, but don't like the thought of dealing with cutting tiles and the small grout lines. Anyway, thanks again for all the responses. On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:26:26 +1000, "glenn P" wrote: Just re-tile, when you factor the time used to paint it & prepare it, it's better spent on doing a proper job. Better resale value as well. Most punters don't like painted tiles. wrote in message ... Our bathroom tile, around the shower/tub, had previously been painted. We didn't even realize it, as it looked very good. But started peeling recently, so we decided to try to re-paint it. We sanded the peeling parts off, which was mainly off the edge of some of the tiles. I tested one of the tiles with primer and paint, one coat each. It covers fine in terms of the color, but you can tell where the ridge is between where the old paint was peeled/sanded off, and where it remained. I asked at HD, and the guy suggested using lightweight spackle to raise the lower part and then sand it. I tried that, but the spackle doesn't stick to the tile very well (if at all; it's drying now), and it mainly crumbled away. I've always used regular joint compound for drywall stuff, so this is probably the nature of lightweight spackle. Anyway, any suggestions on my situation? I'll try a second coat of primer and paint and see if that helps, but not optimistic about that. Should I try getting ALL the old paint off? If so, should I use some solvent as opposed to sanding, as the sanding of the peeling part didn't seem to touch the stuff still adhered. Thanks. |
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