The pump kicks on all the time. Everytime
you flush the toilet or turn on water, the
pump kicks on. I replaced the pressure tank. Kicks on at 30, kicks off at
50. Have 35 pounds of pressure in the tank. Need to know is this normal
for the pump to kick on so much, and if it will hurt the pump? Thank you
very much.

bookie213277 wrote:
The pump kicks on all the time. Every time
you flush the toilet or turn on water, the
pump kicks on. I replaced the pressure tank. Kicks on at 30, kicks off at
50. Have 35 pounds of pressure in the tank. Need to know is this normal
for the pump to kick on so much, and if it will hurt the pump? Thank you
very much.

A couple of things, how big is the tank? Is it a diaphragm tank? Yes it
will hurt the pump, not so much from running often, but from short
cycling which gets it hot. Longer cycles let it cool down from the
start-up load and less frequent ones are better as well. If it isn't a
diaphragm tank it could be air logged, with too big of an air pocket
reducing the amount of water in the tank. Even if it is a diaphragm
tank you should check the pressure, it should fall in the range of
29-33 lbs. My well guy suggested a second tank, to promote longer less
frequent cycles, and I took his advice.

In article . com, "Eric in North TX" wrote:

bookie213277 wrote:
The pump kicks on all the time. Every time
you flush the toilet or turn on water, the
pump kicks on. I replaced the pressure tank. Kicks on at 30, kicks off at
50. Have 35 pounds of pressure in the tank.

That's not right. With the pump set to come on at 30 psi, you should have
slightly less than that (around 28 psi) when the tank is completely empty of
water. Shut the pump off, drain all of the water out of the tank, adjust the
air pressure in the tank to 28 psi, and turn the pump back on.

Need to know is this normal
for the pump to kick on so much, and if it will hurt the pump? Thank you
very much.

A couple of things, how big is the tank? Is it a diaphragm tank? Yes it
will hurt the pump, not so much from running often, but from short
cycling which gets it hot. Longer cycles let it cool down from the
start-up load and less frequent ones are better as well.

Correct so far... but after this, you went astray.

If it isn't a
diaphragm tank it could be air logged, with too big of an air pocket
reducing the amount of water in the tank.

Ummm.... no, it could be *water*-logged, with too *small* an air pocket
allowing too much water in the tank.

There's no such thing as "too big an air pocket". The pressure tank is
supposed to be _completely_empty_ of water at the cut-in pressure.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

"bookie213277" writes:

The pump kicks on all the time. Everytime
you flush the toilet or turn on water, the
pump kicks on. I replaced the pressure tank. Kicks on at 30, kicks off at
50. Have 35 pounds of pressure in the tank. Need to know is this normal
for the pump to kick on so much, and if it will hurt the pump? Thank you
very much.

For what it's worth, I saw this very problem on This Old House one
week. As I recall, the pressure tank they diagnosed as being grossly
undersized for the house in question. Dunno if this is applicable to
your situation.

Yes, such frequent cycling will reduce your pump's life.

I'd also call the person who put the new pressure tank in and get
their read on what's going on and to rule out a defective pressure
tank.

--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/

hopefully you have an adjustable regulator for control.

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bookie213277 wrote:
The pump kicks on all the time. Everytime
you flush the toilet or turn on water, the
pump kicks on. I replaced the pressure tank. Kicks on at 30, kicks off at
50. Have 35 pounds of pressure in the tank. Need to know is this normal
for the pump to kick on so much, and if it will hurt the pump? Thank you
very much.

bookie213277 wrote:
The pump kicks on all the time. Everytime
you flush the toilet or turn on water, the
pump kicks on. I replaced the pressure tank. Kicks on at 30, kicks off at
50. Have 35 pounds of pressure in the tank. Need to know is this normal
for the pump to kick on so much, and if it will hurt the pump? Thank you
very much.
Your tank is water logged . Doug Miller has given you the correction.
So do what he says and you'll be in the ball game. If you do not have
a bladder type tank then your going to have to repeat the operation
from time to time as the tank will lose its air gap over a period of
time and it will have to be replaced. Also as Doug says get the tank
air pressure down to 28lbs.
Jack

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:34:14 -0500, bookie213277 wrote:

Kicks on at 30, kicks off at
50. Have 35 pounds of pressure in the tank. Need to know is this normal
for the pump to kick on so much, and if it will hurt the pump? Thank you
very much.

Yes, over time, short cycling (cutting on every time you use a little water)
will damage the pump.

According to what you have posted, the tank pressure should be about 28 psi,
not 35. Pressure tank should be about 2 psi *less* than the cut-in pressure
for the pump - 30 psi cut-in pressure = 28 psi tank pressure. To set the
system to use the 35 psi already in the tank you'd need to raise the cut-in
pressure to 37 psi by adjusting the pressure switch, which I don't recommend
unless you're unhappy with the household water pressure.

The reason for tank pressure being lower than cut-in pressure is that you
want to allow the maximum amount of water to get into the tank before the
pump cuts off. The air then pressurizes the water as you use it - the more in
the tank, the more you can use before the pressure reaches the cut-in
pressure and the cycle repeats.

Tank pressure is easy enough to set following the steps below:

1) Turn off pump and drain water from tank - draining the tank is
*important*, there must be no water in the tank to get a proper setting

2) To lower pressure, depress center of air valve (should look the same as
one on your automobile tires) - to raise pressure use a tire pump or
compressor to add air to the tank. I highly recommend an electric air pump or
compressor as you'll pump a long time on a bicycle pump to accomplish what
you want when raising the pressure.

3) Check pressure to make sure it is correct - 2 psi below cut-in pressure

4) Turn on pump

Later, Mike
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:34:14 -0500, "bookie213277"
wrote:

The pump kicks on all the time. Everytime
you flush the toilet or turn on water, the
pump kicks on. I replaced the pressure tank. Kicks on at 30, kicks off at
50. Have 35 pounds of pressure in the tank. Need to know is this normal
for the pump to kick on so much, and if it will hurt the pump? Thank you
very much.

Buy yourself a new larger tank with a bladder.

Correct so far... but after this, you went astray.

Thanks for the correction, I haven't messed with a non-bladder tank
since I lived at home, & then my dad did the actual work. I do remember
him giving it a shot of air from the compressor when he had that
problem.

Its a brand new 42 gallon bladder tank got it from home depot was told
it is big enough for my home 3 bedroom 2 bath 4 people living here

"bookie213277" writes:

Its a brand new 42 gallon bladder tank got it from home depot was told
it is big enough for my home 3 bedroom 2 bath 4 people living here

Who installed it? Did they know what they're doing?

If not, it may behoove you to call a well specialist that does.

Best Regards,
--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/

On 18 Sep 2006 13:33:28 -0500, (Todd H.) wrote:

"bookie213277" writes:

Its a brand new 42 gallon bladder tank got it from home depot was told
it is big enough for my home 3 bedroom 2 bath 4 people living here

Who installed it? Did they know what they're doing?

If not, it may behoove you to call a well specialist that does.

Best Regards,

I've pumped them up with a bicycle pump.

Just follow the instructions that came with the tank.