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A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican
TwistyCreek wrote:
A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican You forgot about the part where Joe pays 40% of his earnings to big government in one form or another. |
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Larry Bud wrote:
TwistyCreek wrote: A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican You forgot about the part where Joe pays 40% of his earnings to big government in one form or another. .... and you forgot the part about how he uses twice the resources he pays for. -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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citizens can no longer trust government to help when a disaster occurs.
just look at katrina......... the NEXT are to get decimated by natural or man made (terrorist) disaster might be yours:( note insurance does NOT cover act of wars like terrorism...... so YOU might end up just like those poor folks of louisana who now have NOTHING! eventually people will tire of paying taxes getting little in return while trillions get wasted on wars in other parts of the world. |
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CJT wrote: Larry Bud wrote: TwistyCreek wrote: A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican You forgot about the part where Joe pays 40% of his earnings to big government in one form or another. ... and you forgot the part about how he uses twice the resources he pays for. true, since he's so dependent on the government. |
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On 3 Sep 2006 19:50:44 -0700, "
wrote: citizens can no longer trust government to help when a disaster occurs. just look at katrina......... Well, not This government, clearly. |
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"HeyBub" wrote in message Uh, the "poor folks of Louisiana" had nothing to begin with -- except a government dole. Most are actually better off in that they currently have their "nothing" in areas where having "nothing" is unacceptable (i.e., Salt Lake City, Houston, etc.). If you have "nothing," you starve. Better get to work. These people had jobs and nice homes in a wonderful city. Do you believe everything Rush and Hannity tell you . Quit listening to republikan talking points and start thinking for a change. I get really tired of this stupid garbage. Bob |
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"Dave Christian" wrote in message ... In article . com, says... TwistyCreek wrote: A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican You forgot about the part where Joe pays 40% of his earnings to big government in one form or another. 40%?! I do pretty well and I don't pay anywhere NEAR 40%. That's including income tax, state tax, sales tax, gasoline tax, property tax, personal property tax, ... You need a better financial advisor. On a marginal basis it real simple to be over 40% with just two taxes: federal income tax in the 25% bracket (starts at only $30,650 for a single person in 2006) and total FICA tax of 15.3%. To hit 40% in taxes on total income you only have to have income above $80,000 or so. |
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Larry Bud wrote: TwistyCreek wrote: A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican You forgot about the part where Joe pays 40% of his earnings to big government in one form or another. Thats what happens when your income is from a salary, not from business earnings or from capital gains. |
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catalpa wrote: "Dave Christian" wrote in message ... In article . com, says... TwistyCreek wrote: A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican You forgot about the part where Joe pays 40% of his earnings to big government in one form or another. 40%?! I do pretty well and I don't pay anywhere NEAR 40%. That's including income tax, state tax, sales tax, gasoline tax, property tax, personal property tax, ... You need a better financial advisor. On a marginal basis it real simple to be over 40% with just two taxes: federal income tax in the 25% bracket (starts at only $30,650 for a single person in 2006) and total FICA tax of 15.3%. To hit 40% in taxes on total income you only have to have income above $80,000 or so. income from a salary. Some people need to work less and spend time working and more time thinking. |
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On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:15:25 -0500, HeyBub had his mother write:
wrote: citizens can no longer trust government to help when a disaster occurs. Sure they can. The government worked swell when four hurricanes hit Florida. Bullcrap! I can still find FEMA tarps on roofs for you, from the day after Hurricane Charlie hit. That was before the four hurricanes your talking about. You need to get out and about more. Only thing government done was stick their collective head in the sand to let the insurance companies rape the working class on homeowners insurance by triple the premium and increase the deductable four fold. That is from someone that never lost a shingle to any of the storms. All Jeb Bush does his usual bilingual PR spots for the TV audience though. More Bullcrap. Hey bub, you don't know what you're talking about. Guess how I'm voting? I snipped the rest of your lieing drivel. |
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Saddam had ZERO to do with terrorism but is currently locked up.
While Bin Laden the addmitted mastermind of 9 11 is safe and well somewhere, planning new attacks:( I do admit Iraq is a wonderful training ground for terrorists, they learn how to survive in a war zone, create improvised bombs while winning the hears and minds of the local residents. so please explain how Iraq REALLY keeps us safe? |
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Bob wrote: "HeyBub" wrote in message Uh, the "poor folks of Louisiana" had nothing to begin with -- except a government dole. Most are actually better off in that they currently have their "nothing" in areas where having "nothing" is unacceptable (i.e., Salt Lake City, Houston, etc.). If you have "nothing," you starve. Better get to work. These people had jobs and nice homes in a wonderful city. Do you believe everything Rush and Hannity tell you . Quit listening to republikan talking points and start thinking for a change. I get really tired of this stupid garbage. Bob You're obviously NOT from the area affected. The people who had jobs and nice homes have mostly recovered thru their own efforts. The people HeyBub are referring to, correctly by the way, had nothing before, and if given better homes than they had before the storm will still have nothing but a roof over their heads. Been there, lived there. Another Bob. |
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soon EVERYONE will be drafted upon graduation from high school........
everyone will do a year or two in the national guard, to fight the next war, assuming iraq one ever ends. we will end up like israel where everyone is in the military. soon young people will refuse to volunteer to be cannoin fodder......... |
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If the money and manpower that was used in Iraq had instead been used
to find bin laden we would have his head on a stick by now....... we wasted a lot. Iran is the real threat! What shall we do invade them too? Sure we can invade but dont know how to run a occupied country...... we have little international support for anything.......\ Bush has destroyed our countries reputation and did you see santorium on tv yesterday? He said Bush is doing a excellent job and so is rumsfield.... santorium musty be living in another reality! |
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Bob wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message Uh, the "poor folks of Louisiana" had nothing to begin with -- except a government dole. Most are actually better off in that they currently have their "nothing" in areas where having "nothing" is unacceptable (i.e., Salt Lake City, Houston, etc.). If you have "nothing," you starve. Better get to work. These people had jobs and nice homes in a wonderful city. Do you believe everything Rush and Hannity tell you . Quit listening to republikan talking points and start thinking for a change. I get really tired of this stupid garbage. No, I believe my own eyes. I'm in Houston. I had eight Katrinas living next door for the past year. They have now gone elsewhere since their government-paid rent expired... perhaps back to New Orleans(?). Since my city accepted 150,000 evacuees from New Orleans, I have some experience. Our homicide rate, after trending downward for the past decade, increased 35% in the past year. (Houston police can pin 20% of the homicides on Katrinas, either as victims or shooters). Other crimes usually associated with squints (crack cocaine use, welfare fraud, auto theft, street gangs, etc.) have similarily climbed. This is, however, a self-correcting problem inasmuch as we don't put up with that ****. We kill the miscreants or put them in jail with no bond - the exact opposite of the criminal justice system in New Orleans. On the other hand, a great number of Katrina evacuees have had their lives turned around. They relocated to areas of the country where their prior lifestyles and attitudes were simply unacceptable and they became productive members of society. Look at the evacuee community in Duluth or Omaha or Albany. You'll find unemployment down and school attendance up compared to the dysfunctional New Orleans. |
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soon EVERYONE will be drafted upon graduation from high school........ everyone will do a year or two in the national guard, to fight the next war, assuming iraq one ever ends. If the Democrats have their way. Seemingly. They keep introducing bills in the Congress for mandatory national service. Charlie Rangle's (D:NY) latest attempt was shot down handily http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2004/roll494.xml ) we will end up like israel where everyone is in the military. soon young people will refuse to volunteer to be cannoin fodder......... We don't have cannon fodder any more. Every general believes that the lowest PFC is as expert in his job as the general is in his. |
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On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:14:41 -0400, gfretwell wrote:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:37:02 GMT, RLM wrote: Bullcrap! I can still find FEMA tarps on roofs for you, from the day after Hurricane Charlie hit. Since when is it the government's job to replace a roof? FEMA gave them a tarp in an EMERGENCY. The homeowner still owns the roof My gripe is with insurance industry that government turns it's head for. You knew that because you read the whole post. |
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On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:11:56 -0400, Larry Bud
wrote: TwistyCreek wrote: A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican You forgot about the part where Joe pays 40% of his earnings to big government in one form or another. The whole notion that government does anything for people that people couldn't do for themselves cheaper and better is the essential fallacy. Government is essentially legalized banditry. |
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On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:21:36 -0400, gfretwell wrote:
On 4 Sep 2006 06:45:35 -0700, " wrote: Saddam had ZERO to do with terrorism but is currently locked up. Israrel would disagree with that. Saddam was paying the families of suicide bombers who were blowing up Israelis. We went to Iraq because of Israel, not the twin towers. Remember the US soldiers throwing their bodies in front of scuds aimed at Tel Aviv during the gulf war We were trying to avoid a holy war between Israel and Islam. Well that train left the station when they invaded Lebanon. It is time we came home. I never saw anything righteous with the war on Iraq but do agree with your last line. |
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"Bob" wrote The people HeyBub are referring to, correctly by the way, had nothing before, and if given better homes than they had before the storm will still have nothing but a roof over their heads. Been there, lived there. Another Bob. And will tear the place up, and soon be living in the familiar slum conditions they came from. There is no value in something that is free. Steve |
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Larry (Scratch) wrote:
wrote: citizens can no longer trust government to help when a disaster occurs. just look at katrina......... the NEXT are to get decimated by natural or man made (terrorist) disaster might be yours:( note insurance does NOT cover act of wars like terrorism...... so YOU might end up just like those poor folks of louisana who now have NOTHING! eventually people will tire of paying taxes getting little in return while trillions get wasted on wars in other parts of the world. Yeah, much better to fight the leftist enemy at home. The terrorists are about as right-wing as you can get. -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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lein wrote:
CJT wrote: Larry Bud wrote: TwistyCreek wrote: A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican You forgot about the part where Joe pays 40% of his earnings to big government in one form or another. ... and you forgot the part about how he uses twice the resources he pays for. true, since he's so dependent on the government. precisely -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 11:04:55 -0400, "Joe Williamson"
wrote: On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:11:56 -0400, Larry Bud wrote: TwistyCreek wrote: A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican You forgot about the part where Joe pays 40% of his earnings to big government in one form or another. The whole notion that government does anything for people that people couldn't do for themselves cheaper and better is the essential fallacy. Government is essentially legalized banditry. I do think about that at tax time. I wonder how many (government) drug addicts I'm supporting (how taxes are being used). -- 112 days until the winter solstice celebration "The government of the United States not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." -- GEORGE WASHINGTON--Treaty of Tripoli 1796 |
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HeyBub wrote:
wrote: soon EVERYONE will be drafted upon graduation from high school........ everyone will do a year or two in the national guard, to fight the next war, assuming iraq one ever ends. If the Democrats have their way. Seemingly. They keep introducing bills in the Congress for mandatory national service. Charlie Rangle's (D:NY) latest attempt was shot down handily http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2004/roll494.xml ) we will end up like israel where everyone is in the military. soon young people will refuse to volunteer to be cannoin fodder......... We don't have cannon fodder any more. Every general believes that the lowest PFC is as expert in his job as the general is in his. The Commander-In_Chief seems to be an exception. -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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Joe Williamson wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:11:56 -0400, Larry Bud wrote: snip Government is essentially legalized banditry. That's been true for almost six years now. -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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------------------------------------------------------------------------- Free software - Baxter Codeworks www.baxcode.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Joe Williamson" wrote in message news:op.tfcz6hy42ttlg6@localhost... On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:11:56 -0400, Larry Bud wrote: TwistyCreek wrote: A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican You forgot about the part where Joe pays 40% of his earnings to big government in one form or another. The whole notion that government does anything for people that people couldn't do for themselves cheaper and better is the essential fallacy. Government is essentially legalized banditry. When taken over by people like you and Bush, that's true. |
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On 3 Sep 2006 20:38:12 -0700, "lein"
wrote: CJT wrote: Larry Bud wrote: TwistyCreek wrote: A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican You forgot about the part where Joe pays 40% of his earnings to big government in one form or another. ... and you forgot the part about how he uses twice the resources he pays for. true, since he's so dependent on the government. I wanna see that math. Not a summation of the resources, just how many of these middle class people there are multiplied by this twice the resources, divided by the total resources available. |
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Dave Christian wrote:
In article . com, says... TwistyCreek wrote: A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican You forgot about the part where Joe pays 40% of his earnings to big government in one form or another. 40%?! I do pretty well and I don't pay anywhere NEAR 40%. That's including income tax, state tax, sales tax, gasoline tax, property tax, personal property tax, ... You need a better financial advisor. Many people mistakenly look at their highest bracket, rather than their average taxes, and come up with the 40% number. Combining state, federal, property, sales, gasoline, etc., a family making $100,000 in California will pay around 26% in combined taxes, assuming they have a mortgage deduction. Actually a bargain, considering how much it would cost if each person provided their own personal road system, police and fire protection, schools, universities, defense, etc. |
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cor wrote: Larry Bud wrote: TwistyCreek wrote: A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican You forgot about the part where Joe pays 40% of his earnings to big government in one form or another. Thats what happens when your income is from a salary, not from business earnings or from capital gains. true, without business earnings and investment from capital gains, Joe's unemployed and living under an overpass. |
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Baxter wrote: The whole notion that government does anything for people that people couldn't do for themselves cheaper and better is the essential fallacy. Government is essentially legalized banditry. When taken over by people like you and Bush, that's true. Bush has little to do with it. All politicians take from the middle class, and depending which party is in control, give it to either the rich or the poor. The rich and the poor do all the bitching about not getting their share while the middle class get screwed no matter who is in power. Bob |
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On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 13:04:03 -0400, CJT wrote:
Joe Williamson wrote: On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:11:56 -0400, Larry Bud wrote: snip Government is essentially legalized banditry. That's been true for almost six years now. The more I think about it, the more I think it's been true since the dawn of time. |
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------------------------------------------------------------------------- Free software - Baxter Codeworks www.baxcode.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "lein" wrote in message oups.com... cor wrote: Larry Bud wrote: TwistyCreek wrote: A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican You forgot about the part where Joe pays 40% of his earnings to big government in one form or another. Thats what happens when your income is from a salary, not from business earnings or from capital gains. true, without business earnings and investment from capital gains, Joe's unemployed and living under an overpass. Actually, real wages were higher back when taxes on the rich were higher. What you're ignoring is that while profits have been rising, wages have been declining. |
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------------------------------------------------------------------------- Free software - Baxter Codeworks www.baxcode.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Bob" wrote in message oups.com... Baxter wrote: The whole notion that government does anything for people that people couldn't do for themselves cheaper and better is the essential fallacy. Government is essentially legalized banditry. When taken over by people like you and Bush, that's true. Bush has little to do with it. Bush has a lot to do with it. Poverty has increased since he took office. Real wages have also dropped. "Profits" have skyrocketed. All politicians take from the middle class, No, not really. Some do help the middle class. and depending which party is in control, give it to either the rich or the poor. The rich and the poor do all the bitching about not getting their share while the middle class get screwed no matter who is in power. The Rethuglicans have actually set up a mechanism for enriching themselves and their friends. The possible Dem takeover of power is especially threatening to them (the Rethugs) because it would end, or at least slow, the cash flow. |
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Baxter wrote: Bush has little to do with it. Bush has a lot to do with it. Same old Republican/Democrat issues that will never change! This country is on the road to a larger division than the Iraqi Suni/****te civil war. We are way overdue for a third party that can pull this country back together again. (and it's not the Libertarians). Bob |
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