The sidewalk section is removed, the bed of the section is coated with
rocks, and the section is framed for the new concrete sloped at a very
nice angle. I have the cement float and 2 types of edgers to put the
sections to the slab.

Can anyone elaborate on the process to use when installing a load of
3500 psi, with air, cement from a mixer truck? Thanks, in the past I
have always used the 80 lb bags from HD, but not this time. And, what
is a good sealer for the new cement, and when should it be applied?

Thanks,
Fish

Fish wrote:
The sidewalk section is removed, the bed of the section is coated with
rocks, and the section is framed for the new concrete sloped at a very
nice angle. I have the cement float and 2 types of edgers to put the
sections to the slab.

Can anyone elaborate on the process to use when installing a load of
3500 psi, with air, cement from a mixer truck? Thanks, in the past I
have always used the 80 lb bags from HD, but not this time. And, what
is a good sealer for the new cement, and when should it be applied?

Thanks,
Fish

How many square feet are you talking about? How many helpers do you
have? Have you done this before? What kind of access will the truck have
to the project?

Concrete is very heavy and it is time sensitive. The driver will expect
to be able to deliver and be out of there quickly. Except for a very small
project that takes a lot of people to do the work and the less experience
they have the more it takes.

Also consider that if you don't work the concrete correctly it is going
to be weak and you can expect the surface to scale in a year or two. Doing
it right is something of an art form developed with experience.

I hope all this has convinced you that you need someone on site who
really knows what they are doing when that truck arrives.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
Concrete is very heavy and it is time sensitive. The driver will expect
to be able to deliver and be out of there quickly. Except for a very
small project that takes a lot of people to do the work and the less
experience they have the more it takes.

I hope all this has convinced you that you need someone on site who
really knows what they are doing when that truck arrives.

The truck will dump and you will have to spread and screed immediately.
Once he is gone, you won't be able to fill in any low spots. Actual
finishing can then take place. Also good to have a spot to dump any excess.

Sealer? Never. Billions of square feet of unsealed concrete abound in the
world for over a hundred years with no sealers on them.

have a good friend who cheaped out some years ago, he and his kids
layed the concrete.

it was HOT he didnt know to keep it moist and cover it.

the entire job turned back to gravel really, hazatd to walk on
lawsuit city if you ask me...

get a knowledgable friend to help at least the first time..........

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
Concrete is very heavy and it is time sensitive. The driver will
expect to be able to deliver and be out of there quickly. Except
for a very small project that takes a lot of people to do the work
and the less experience they have the more it takes.

I hope all this has convinced you that you need someone on site
who really knows what they are doing when that truck arrives.

The truck will dump and you will have to spread and screed
immediately. Once he is gone, you won't be able to fill in any low
spots. Actual finishing can then take place. Also good to have a
spot to dump any excess.
Sealer? Never. Billions of square feet of unsealed concrete abound
in the world for over a hundred years with no sealers on them.

I might suggest a sealer for those who are in cold snowy areas. Allow
the concrete to cure and in the fall use a water based sealer. This is
best done the first year. It is less important after than. It can help
keep the salt off the concrete. Frankly I believe a better solution is to
place it in the early spring and try to keep your car(s) off it if they have
any salt on them the first winter.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit

"Fish" wrote in message
...
The sidewalk section is removed, the bed of the section is coated with
rocks, and the section is framed for the new concrete sloped at a very
nice angle. I have the cement float and 2 types of edgers to put the
sections to the slab.

Can anyone elaborate on the process to use when installing a load of
3500 psi, with air, cement from a mixer truck? Thanks, in the past I
have always used the 80 lb bags from HD, but not this time. And, what
is a good sealer for the new cement, and when should it be applied?

Thanks,
Fish



I wonder if he is asking about curing solution instead of a sealer. I
usually have curing solution delivered with the concrete.

Joseph,

"Also consider that if you don't work the concrete correctly it is
going to be weak and you can expect the surface to scale in a year or
two. Doing it right is something of an art form developed with
experience."

I was looking for a clarification of the art form.

Thank you.







On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:41:02 GMT, "Joseph Meehan"
wrote:

Fish wrote:
The sidewalk section is removed, the bed of the section is coated with
rocks, and the section is framed for the new concrete sloped at a very
nice angle. I have the cement float and 2 types of edgers to put the
sections to the slab.

Can anyone elaborate on the process to use when installing a load of
3500 psi, with air, cement from a mixer truck? Thanks, in the past I
have always used the 80 lb bags from HD, but not this time. And, what
is a good sealer for the new cement, and when should it be applied?

Thanks,
Fish

How many square feet are you talking about? How many helpers do you
have? Have you done this before? What kind of access will the truck have
to the project?

Concrete is very heavy and it is time sensitive. The driver will expect
to be able to deliver and be out of there quickly. Except for a very small
project that takes a lot of people to do the work and the less experience
they have the more it takes.

Also consider that if you don't work the concrete correctly it is going
to be weak and you can expect the surface to scale in a year or two. Doing
it right is something of an art form developed with experience.

I hope all this has convinced you that you need someone on site who
really knows what they are doing when that truck arrives.

In any case, I used Quikrete sealer/curer. I figured if there was a
way to preserve the concrete longer than 50 years, hey, I would try
it.



On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:48:03 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
Concrete is very heavy and it is time sensitive. The driver will expect
to be able to deliver and be out of there quickly. Except for a very
small project that takes a lot of people to do the work and the less
experience they have the more it takes.

I hope all this has convinced you that you need someone on site who
really knows what they are doing when that truck arrives.

The truck will dump and you will have to spread and screed immediately.
Once he is gone, you won't be able to fill in any low spots. Actual
finishing can then take place. Also good to have a spot to dump any excess.

Sealer? Never. Billions of square feet of unsealed concrete abound in the
world for over a hundred years with no sealers on them.

"it was HOT he didnt know to keep it moist and cover it."

Luckily i put down the concrete by 5 pm, the next morning applied the
quikrete sealer/cure, I am hoping it was kept moist enough.





On 22 Aug 2006 05:54:54 -0700, "
wrote:

have a good friend who cheaped out some years ago, he and his kids
layed the concrete.

it was HOT he didnt know to keep it moist and cover it.

the entire job turned back to gravel really, hazatd to walk on
lawsuit city if you ask me...

get a knowledgable friend to help at least the first time..........

Pat,

Both. I bought a sealer curing solution.

Thanks.





On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:25:02 -0700, "Pat"
wrote:


"Fish" wrote in message
.. .
The sidewalk section is removed, the bed of the section is coated with
rocks, and the section is framed for the new concrete sloped at a very
nice angle. I have the cement float and 2 types of edgers to put the
sections to the slab.

Can anyone elaborate on the process to use when installing a load of
3500 psi, with air, cement from a mixer truck? Thanks, in the past I
have always used the 80 lb bags from HD, but not this time. And, what
is a good sealer for the new cement, and when should it be applied?

Thanks,
Fish



I wonder if he is asking about curing solution instead of a sealer. I
usually have curing solution delivered with the concrete.