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Bill August 18th 06 05:23 PM

Home Depot's Inventory Control Problem
 
With computers and barcodes on everything, reordering is supposed to be
"just in time". That is they get a new shipment in just before they run out
of something.

But it is not working that way at some stores. I frequently see things out
of stock in many different stores.

This is a "management system" and it is not designed well obviously.

It should take into account how frequently an item sells predict when the
store will be out of an item.

Take into account how long it will take for a new shipment to arrive at a
particular store.

Alert management when any item is out of stock so they can tweak their
reordering of that item - prevent being out of stock in the future.

And incorporate all of this into stocking regional distribution centers.

Then based on the item selling (the computer would know because of
barcodes), automatically reorder that item - Just in time.

In some cases the item might need to be reordered when the stock is down to
3 items. Other cases when the stock is down to 1 item. Etc.



David August 18th 06 05:39 PM

Home Depot's Inventory Control Problem
 

"David Martel" wrote in message
ink.net...
mm,

Computerized inventory needs to be deigned to include theft and damage.
A while back I was at Lowes shopping for a 90 deg stove pipe elbow. There
was one mangled elbow on the shelf. There were 3 elbows listed in their
computer. The store clerk couldn't find the elbows and left the damaged
one on the shelf. A month later I looked again, out of curiosity, and they
still had one damaged elbow on the shelf.

Dave M.
.

Computerized inventory just needs to be updated in the HD where I live. I
was looking at a certain bookcase which was on display but none were on the
shelf because they were sold out. When the clerk checked the computerized
inventory, it showed that they had 3 of them. Nobody could have shoplifted
them because of the size and weight of the boxes.

David



dpb August 18th 06 06:05 PM

Home Depot's Inventory Control Problem
 

Bill wrote:
With computers and barcodes on everything, reordering is supposed to be
"just in time". That is they get a new shipment in just before they run out
of something.

....
This is a "management system" and it is not designed well obviously.

It should take into account how frequently an item sells predict when the
store will be out of an item.

Take into account how long it will take for a new shipment to arrive at a
particular store.

Alert management when any item is out of stock so they can tweak their
reordering of that item - prevent being out of stock in the future.

And incorporate all of this into stocking regional distribution centers.

....

I think if you would/could see the actual inventory algorithms you
would find they're far more sophisticated and global in their logic
than this. The actual target is to maximize overall _profitability_,
not just to restock individual widgets in a bin.

If targets were set so high so that _no_ product were ever out of stock
inventory and delivery costs would cost far more, overall, than the
occasional loss of sales.

The largest difficulty in making such models work continues to be data
collection at the POS and controlling shrinkage and on-shelf damage (as
somebody else noted) that reduce inventory out of the observability of
the collection system (as well as the actual loss, of course). The
effectiveness of local management and particularly department managers
in ensuring accurate data input makes the difference other note between
better/lesser-stocked stores within a given chain. It is certainly
true that if corporate makes a decision to remove power from local
managers to effect corrections into the data system the quality of the
data will go down and the effectiveness of the system will degrade with
that loss of data--"garbage in, garbage out".

I don't have local BORG available but when I do visit one on occasion
on treks to "the big city" :) I still observe there are some HDs that
are clearly far better managed locally than others. In general, for
the areas I see, it seems to me that Lowes in general are better than
HD in terms of numbers of people and general selection--that of course,
could reflect only on what my particular likes/dislikes are more than
any real difference--others could visit the same stores and undoubtedly
draw the opposite conclusion. Since the Lowes re-vitalization effort
some years ago it has seemed to me that what little lumber I've bought
at either that Lowes is better in general than HD in that particular
area.


Pete C. August 18th 06 06:08 PM

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David wrote:

"David Martel" wrote in message
ink.net...
mm,

Computerized inventory needs to be deigned to include theft and damage.
A while back I was at Lowes shopping for a 90 deg stove pipe elbow. There
was one mangled elbow on the shelf. There were 3 elbows listed in their
computer. The store clerk couldn't find the elbows and left the damaged
one on the shelf. A month later I looked again, out of curiosity, and they
still had one damaged elbow on the shelf.

Dave M.
.

Computerized inventory just needs to be updated in the HD where I live. I
was looking at a certain bookcase which was on display but none were on the
shelf because they were sold out. When the clerk checked the computerized
inventory, it showed that they had 3 of them. Nobody could have shoplifted
them because of the size and weight of the boxes.

David


Employee theft out the loading dock with their own forklift...

Pete C.

[email protected] August 18th 06 06:11 PM

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"R & S" wrote:

I saw a documentary where Walmart gets 2-3 manufacture's reps in an room and


I live in a small town of 17,000 and walmart has
DECIMATED this town of its mom and pop stores

Doug Miller August 18th 06 06:23 PM

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In article , "Percival P. Cassidy" wrote:

But whether it's Wal-Mart, HD, Lowe's, or Joe's Building Supplies, I
think it's a disgrace that the wages for a 40-hour week (or perhaps even
a 50- or 60-hour week) are not enough to put a roof over the worker's
head, put food on his/her table, meet the costs of transportation at
least to and from work, and cover health-care costs --at least not in
any place reasonably fit for human habitation.


Well, that's what happens to people that don't have a college education...

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

mm August 18th 06 06:49 PM

Home Depot's Inventory Control Problem
 
On 18 Aug 2006 09:03:25 -0700, "dpb" wrote:

PS. Being in what most would consider a small town, there are the
occasional instances that there actually isn't much if any alternative
any longer as the influence of the BORG-syndrome is most observable on
the independent businesses in smaller communities which don't have the
population base to support the smaller merchants as well.


Former Georgia Congressman and former civil-rights activist Andrew
Young, I just heard on the radio, resigned today from a pro-Walmart
organization, after he was criticized for remarks he had made.

I have the story very close to accurate: He was asked if it was a
problem that Walmart drove small businesses out of business.

He said, No, because they are owned by Jews, Koreans, and Arabs and
they charge too much anyhow.


When I heard the start of the story (on NPR iirc) I didn't expect him
to have said anything this flamboyant or flaming. I guess Andy only
cares about non-discrimination when he's the one being
non-discriminated against. And he's so off the wall anyhow. Maybe
where he lives, but I'm sure the majority, probably the vast majority
of stores in the US put out of business weren't owned by Jews,
Koreans, or Arabs. I wonder if he got this line from meetings with
Wal-mart or he thought of it himself.

Edwin Pawlowski August 18th 06 07:17 PM

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"Percival P. Cassidy" wrote in message

But whether it's Wal-Mart, HD, Lowe's, or Joe's Building Supplies, I think
it's a disgrace that the wages for a 40-hour week (or perhaps even a 50-
or 60-hour week) are not enough to put a roof over the worker's head, put
food on his/her table, meet the costs of transportation at least to and
from work, and cover health-care costs --at least not in any place
reasonably fit for human habitation.

Perce


What retailer pays like that? Going back 50 years, Sears, Gimble's, Macy's,
were mostly staffed by women that had a husband working a full time job.
They were just a second income. Maybe someone knows for sure, but I don't
think theypaid health benefits or enough to fully support a family. If you
worked at Sears for 20 or 30 years, you got a good pension.

Are you ready and willing to pay 10% or more for all of your purchases? Wal
Mart may be greedy, but so are most of the consumers that hunt for the
lowest possible price, then complain they did not get the service and
quality of years ago. The department stores I mentioned were put out of
business, not by Wal Mart, but by the consumer that made the decision to
save money by going to Wal Mart instead of the local retailer that paid his
help a few dollars more at the end of the week.

:We have met the enemy, and it is US" Pogo (how many even know who Pogo
is?)



jtees4 August 18th 06 07:31 PM

Home Depot's Inventory Control Problem
 
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:08:51 GMT, "Pete C."
wrote:

David wrote:

"David Martel" wrote in message
ink.net...
mm,

Computerized inventory needs to be deigned to include theft and damage.
A while back I was at Lowes shopping for a 90 deg stove pipe elbow. There
was one mangled elbow on the shelf. There were 3 elbows listed in their
computer. The store clerk couldn't find the elbows and left the damaged
one on the shelf. A month later I looked again, out of curiosity, and they
still had one damaged elbow on the shelf.

Dave M.
.

Computerized inventory just needs to be updated in the HD where I live. I
was looking at a certain bookcase which was on display but none were on the
shelf because they were sold out. When the clerk checked the computerized
inventory, it showed that they had 3 of them. Nobody could have shoplifted
them because of the size and weight of the boxes.

David


Employee theft out the loading dock with their own forklift...

Pete C.


Or delivered straight to the employees home...I've seen this done too.

[email protected] August 18th 06 08:52 PM

Home Depot's Inventory Control Problem
 
Exactly. As a teacher I see students who make no effort to succeed.
Parents are not supportive and have low expectations. In that
situation, there is little chance for success, Many drop out of HS or
even middle school and of course they cannot go to college get a good
job. They end up in menial jobs or involved in crime. Is that Walmart's
fault? No!! College is not mandatory for success look at the
tradesmen. But they did have to make some effort to become a licensed
plumber or electrician. If you dont take responsibility for your own
life dont blame Walmart for your failure.

Doug Miller wrote:
Well, that's what happens to people that don't have a college education...


--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.



Percival P. Cassidy August 18th 06 09:12 PM

Home Depot's Inventory Control Problem
 
On 08/18/06 01:23 pm Doug Miller wrote:

But whether it's Wal-Mart, HD, Lowe's, or Joe's Building Supplies, I
think it's a disgrace that the wages for a 40-hour week (or perhaps even
a 50- or 60-hour week) are not enough to put a roof over the worker's
head, put food on his/her table, meet the costs of transportation at
least to and from work, and cover health-care costs --at least not in
any place reasonably fit for human habitation.


Well, that's what happens to people that don't have a college education...


But there are jobs without which society would not continue that do not
require a college education. Think: ditch digger, sanitation worker. If
these people are making a useful contribution to society, why should
they not receive a living wage? Is it only work for which a college
education is required that society really needs?

And many jobs for which employers are demanding a college degree do not
need one. And when enough people have college degrees, employers will
demand that sanitation workers have college degrees too -- end they
still won't have enough to live on. (Many years ago, a trucking company
in Madras, India, was demanding a Bachelor's degree for truck drivers
because there was a glut of graduates and the employer was able to make
unreasonable demands.)

Perce

Buck Turgidson August 18th 06 09:20 PM

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I have read that Walmart's presence in the economy in essence raises
disposable personal income by .9% due to its low prices



Did you also read the part about the burden that Walmart's employees place
on Medicare because they can't afford health insurance, their foodstamps,
etc?



HeatMan August 18th 06 09:21 PM

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Gonna throw something in.

"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
. ..

"frank1492" wrote in message
...
I used to take great joy in visiting HD, but over the past year it has
*Mart and HD, Walmart usually steps
all over HD on price.
I'm starting to dread going to HD.
Frank


HD is based here in Atlanta, so the local media gives them a fair amount

of
coverage. Some of the things which have come out in the last few years is
that the folks at the corporate office have more or less taken the power
away from the stores. Once upon a time, the store managers had a lot of
latitude on what to stock, how to price it, etc. Today, virtually all of
that is controlled at the corporate level. In addition, it has become

much
easier to get a job in one of the stores because the company has moved

away
from hiring experts for the respective departments (i.e. someone with
plumbing experience in the plumbing dept.).


You most likely won't find *real* pros in any department at HD or Lowes. A
good tradesman can make $18-$24 per hour (or more) in their respective
trade, maybe half of that at the box stores.

While HD hasn't devolved into
*just another retail store*, it isn't nearly as service and customer
oriented as it was a few years back.

The bottom line is that HD isn't what it used to be, although I still

prefer
it to Lowes and (uggh) Wal-mart.

HD was great when Bernie and Arthur ran it. Now that Nardelli, the General
Electric reject, runs it, the stores have turned to squat.



Buck Turgidson August 18th 06 09:21 PM

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HD has the same problem here in the DC area. Unfortunately, most of the
Lowes are in the outer suburbs, so there is really no competition. Lowes
apparently likes the lower rents
in the outer areas.

However, I find it worth it to drive another 15 minutes to Lowes, cuz when
HD is out of stock, I end up doing so anyway.



Buck Turgidson August 18th 06 09:24 PM

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Aw jeez. I hope this thread ends here....



HeatMan August 18th 06 09:27 PM

Home Depot's Inventory Control Problem
 

"mm" wrote in message
...
On 18 Aug 2006 09:03:25 -0700, "dpb" wrote:

PS. Being in what most would consider a small town, there are the
occasional instances that there actually isn't much if any alternative
any longer as the influence of the BORG-syndrome is most observable on
the independent businesses in smaller communities which don't have the
population base to support the smaller merchants as well.


Former Georgia Congressman and former civil-rights activist Andrew
Young, I just heard on the radio, resigned today from a pro-Walmart
organization, after he was criticized for remarks he had made.


You have a link to that story?





HeatMan August 18th 06 09:29 PM

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"Al Bundy" wrote in message
...
frank1492 wrote in
:

I used to take great joy in visiting HD, but over the past year it has
become a frustrating experience. (I live in MA.) Every time I need
something these days, they are out os stock, and I'm not talking
slow-moving stuff, I'm talking basics like 3/4" copper elbows! They
tell me they can't order when they need something these days,
but receive stuff only when the home office tells them they need
it!
The other day, they only had ONE model of hedge trimmer in
stock in the Worcester store, so I went to Lowe's. No problem
finding HedgeHogs there.
Anybody else seeing this? One other observation: If an item
can be found at both Wal*Mart and HD, Walmart usually steps
all over HD on price.
I'm starting to dread going to HD.
Frank



I have noticed this over the past couple of years.

And discontnuing items for a higher priced line. Example comes to mind.
Went to get a plastic toilet supply line. Empty. Knowledgable employee I
know nearby. Says they were discontinued and they will only have the
metal braded from now on.

And please, don't someone say how much better they are. They may be but
the betterness will never get used. Never had a plastic one explode on me
yet!


Talked to a gent at HD yesterday, an employee. He and his wife were out on
a camping trip and came home to water flowing out the garage of their ranch
with a full basement house. The plastic sink (as opposed to toilet) supply
line broke.



HeatMan August 18th 06 09:29 PM

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"Steve B" wrote in message
news:oqbFg.7333$Mz3.7115@fed1read07...
I used to take great joy in visiting HD, but over the past year it has
become a frustrating experience. (I live in MA.) Every time I need
something these days, they are out os stock, and I'm not talking
slow-moving stuff, I'm talking basics like 3/4" copper elbows!


Funny you should mention that.

I went to HD for copper sweat on fittings. They had contractor packs for
let's say, $2.50 for ten fittings. I bought all they had. When I got to
the cashier, she could not ring up the loose ones because they did not

have
individual SKUs on them.

Call the manager.

Stand around.

Line behind me gets longer.

Repeat the last three steps about three times.

Meanwhile, I say, "Look. $2.50 divided by ten equals a quarter apiece.
Charge me that."

"Oh, I can't do that. I'll lose my job," was the response from the
oblivious nineteen year old clerk.

Finally, after about ten minutes, I walked out, leaving about $300 worth

of
merchandise sitting there.



Been there, done that.





Pete C. August 18th 06 09:39 PM

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HeatMan wrote:

"mm" wrote in message
...
On 18 Aug 2006 09:03:25 -0700, "dpb" wrote:

PS. Being in what most would consider a small town, there are the
occasional instances that there actually isn't much if any alternative
any longer as the influence of the BORG-syndrome is most observable on
the independent businesses in smaller communities which don't have the
population base to support the smaller merchants as well.


Former Georgia Congressman and former civil-rights activist Andrew
Young, I just heard on the radio, resigned today from a pro-Walmart
organization, after he was criticized for remarks he had made.


You have a link to that story?


Here is the CNN version:

http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/18/news...ex.htm?cnn=yes

Pete C.

Pete C. August 18th 06 09:41 PM

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HeatMan wrote:

You most likely won't find *real* pros in any department at HD or Lowes. A
good tradesman can make $18-$24 per hour (or more) in their respective
trade, maybe half of that at the box stores.


You used to find real pros at HD, typically evenings and weekends when
they had time to kill to make some extra money.

Pete C.

Buster Chops August 18th 06 09:57 PM

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Agree with the point. HD seems to have lost the edge ... I've been using Lowe's more but also try to keep my local small hardware store in in business. HD lost touch with its consumer base ... whether too big or too fat, who knows. Customer Service is iffy .. and certainly, not everything is in stock as needed.

And one thing for certain, phone order and follow-up is lousy.




"frank1492" wrote in message ...
I used to take great joy in visiting HD, but over the past year it has
become a frustrating experience. (I live in MA.) Every time I need
something these days, they are out os stock, and I'm not talking
slow-moving stuff, I'm talking basics like 3/4" copper elbows! They
tell me they can't order when they need something these days,
but receive stuff only when the home office tells them they need
it!
The other day, they only had ONE model of hedge trimmer in
stock in the Worcester store, so I went to Lowe's. No problem
finding HedgeHogs there.
Anybody else seeing this? One other observation: If an item
can be found at both Wal*Mart and HD, Walmart usually steps
all over HD on price.
I'm starting to dread going to HD.
Frank


[email protected] August 18th 06 10:36 PM

Home Depot's Inventory Control Problem
 
They need to cut out all those "enititlements" . There is no better
motivator than an empty stomach. Instead of dropping out or getting
knocked up at 15 people might realize the value of an education and
stay in school and go to college.

Buck Turgidson wrote:
I have read that Walmart's presence in the economy in essence raises
disposable personal income by .9% due to its low prices



Did you also read the part about the burden that Walmart's employees place
on Medicare because they can't afford health insurance, their foodstamps,
etc?



Oren August 18th 06 10:56 PM

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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:20:01 -0400, "Buck Turgidson"
wrote:

I have read that Walmart's presence in the economy in essence raises
disposable personal income by .9% due to its low prices



Did you also read the part about the burden that Walmart's employees place
on Medicare because they can't afford health insurance, their foodstamps,
etc?


Afford food stamps? Tell me more.....


Oren

Oren August 18th 06 11:02 PM

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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:23:41 GMT, (Doug Miller)
wrote:

In article , "Percival P. Cassidy" wrote:

But whether it's Wal-Mart, HD, Lowe's, or Joe's Building Supplies, I
think it's a disgrace that the wages for a 40-hour week (or perhaps even
a 50- or 60-hour week) are not enough to put a roof over the worker's
head, put food on his/her table, meet the costs of transportation at
least to and from work, and cover health-care costs --at least not in
any place reasonably fit for human habitation.


Well, that's what happens to people that don't have a college education...



And you might end up with an "educated idiot"; a BS degree in Criminal
Justice", having never seen a criminal (education does not equal
common sense). Ten percent at the bottom of the class...attorneys.
doctors, you ...know..

Oren

August 18th 06 11:05 PM

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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 05:35:29 GMT, "R & S" wrote:

I saw a documentary where Walmart gets 2-3 manufacture's reps in an room and
forces them to bid against one another down to the penny. They almost
destroyed Rubbermaid because the cost of raw materials went up and they
wouldn't renegotiate; Wall mart almost destroyed them. They don't treat
their employees much better either. There were allegations where they made
the employees punch out and forced them to continue working. Nice bunch of
folks.
Ron

Apparently, you've never worked in the business market.

EVERY government contract ( except Halliburton )
is let on the bid-system.

Thats local, county, state, or federal.

You want to supply goods or services, you'll be the low bidder.


rj

dicko August 19th 06 12:12 AM

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On 17 Aug 2006 19:18:04 -0700, "bryanska"
wrote:

(2) Why does *everybody* hate Wal*Mart?


I hate Wal-Mart for two reasons:

1) Ever since Sam Walton died, all items are no longer made in USA. Not
only is the store depressing prices and local economies, Wal-Mart is
contributing to the trade deficit. Whereas before it was a local
problem, it's now nationwide.

Sound "liberal"? Listen to #2.

2) I work for a major Fortune 500 company that has a huge packaging
department. Our box suppliers (my vendors) are forced to do business
with Wal-Mart because they dominate many portions of commercial
logistics. If they don't deal with Wal-Mart, they can't compete.
However, Wal-mart demands such low prices from these box companies, the
margins leave nothing for re-investment. International Paper, for
example, owes a portion of its crushing debt to Wal-Mart, and the
company may not survive. My company is facing higher prices and worse
service because these companies are finding it difficult to grow.

So the bleeding-heart aspects of hating Wal-Mart are beginning to be
eclipsed by a growing, similar undercurrent in the business world.

These guys are assholes to deal with, too. Try navigating the Byzantine
rules of selling anything in their store.


You aught to read the Vlasic Pickle story. About how Walmart put
Vlasic Pickle out of business.

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html

It'd be hilarious if it werent so serious.

dickm

HeyBub August 19th 06 12:44 AM

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wrote:
"R & S" wrote:

I saw a documentary where Walmart gets 2-3 manufacture's reps in an
room and


I live in a small town of 17,000 and walmart has
DECIMATED this town of its mom and pop stores


Inasmuch as "decimate" means "to reduce by 10%," that's not too bad. If you
meant "destroyed," well, good-o. 17,000 people get lower prices, better
hours, and greater variety. Shoppers in your town now have a $300 BILLION
company standing behind their sales and service. Compare that to the
mom-and-pop stores.

Small vignette: I recently bought some tires at Walmart. After the hippie
installed and balanced the new tires, I asked: "All done?"

"Not quite," he said, and disappeared. He returned in a few moments with the
automotive manager in tow. The manager was carrying a torque wrench and
proceeded to test all the lug nuts. While this was going on, the hippie
oozed over to me and said: "Company policy says I have to have another
member of the staff test all the bolt-thingies. Wouldn't want your nuts to
fall off! Hee-hee."

Needless to say, I approved of the redundancy. Especially considering the
dope-crazed beatnik in charge of the project! Hmm. Maybe that's WHY they
have the policy -- to many customer's driving off with missing lug nuts?

And, since there is now no competition in your town, did the great
bug-a-boo, Wal-Mart raising their prices since they are now an effective
monopoly, actually come to pass?



HeyBub August 19th 06 12:50 AM

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Percival P. Cassidy wrote:

Well, that's what happens to people that don't have a college
education...


But there are jobs without which society would not continue that do
not require a college education. Think: ditch digger, sanitation
worker. If these people are making a useful contribution to society,
why should they not receive a living wage?


Two reasons: 1) The company is not willing to pay more, and 2) The employee
is willing to work for what's offered.

Often the difference is not between $5.70 an hour and ten dollars per hour.
The difference is between $5.70 an hour and nothing. In your examples (ditch
digger and garbage collector), think back-hoe and automated trash trucks.

Is it only work for which a college
education is required that society really needs?

And many jobs for which employers are demanding a college degree do
not need one. And when enough people have college degrees, employers
will demand that sanitation workers have college degrees too -- end
they still won't have enough to live on. (Many years ago, a trucking
company in Madras, India, was demanding a Bachelor's degree for truck
drivers
because there was a glut of graduates and the employer was able to
make unreasonable demands.)


In India, for the non-degreed unemployed, all is not hopeless. There's still
black-market organ donation.



HeyBub August 19th 06 12:51 AM

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Oren wrote:

And you might end up with an "educated idiot"; a BS degree in Criminal
Justice", having never seen a criminal (education does not equal
common sense). Ten percent at the bottom of the class...attorneys.
doctors, you ...know..


Graffiti in college toilet: "If you're a History Major, this is the only job
you'll ever have."



HeyBub August 19th 06 12:56 AM

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Buck Turgidson wrote:
I have read that Walmart's presence in the economy in essence raises
disposable personal income by .9% due to its low prices



Did you also read the part about the burden that Walmart's employees
place on Medicare because they can't afford health insurance, their
foodstamps, etc?


Yeah. Mostly urban legend. A significant part of Walmart's staff are
part-timers who, on their own, opt for government-sponsored insurance
because commercial insurance - via Walmart - is too "expensive" (the average
Walmart employee pays $23/month for health coverage). Many other employees
are covered by their spouses' policies.



HeyBub August 19th 06 12:59 AM

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HeatMan wrote:
"mm" wrote in message
...
On 18 Aug 2006 09:03:25 -0700, "dpb" wrote:

PS. Being in what most would consider a small town, there are the
occasional instances that there actually isn't much if any
alternative any longer as the influence of the BORG-syndrome is
most observable on the independent businesses in smaller
communities which don't have the population base to support the
smaller merchants as well.


Former Georgia Congressman and former civil-rights activist Andrew
Young, I just heard on the radio, resigned today from a pro-Walmart
organization, after he was criticized for remarks he had made.


You have a link to that story?


http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110008817

Scroll down to "First it was the Jews..."



HeyBub August 19th 06 01:04 AM

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Doug Miller wrote:
In article , "Craven
Morehead" wrote:
Officially...dwarfs.


No. "Dwarf" and "midget" mean two different things.


But both were included in the "little people" class-action suit a few years
ago complaining of housing discrimination. As a result of the litigation, a
new apartment house was built in Chicago and various "little people" were
given free rent. The residents, never happy, are now complaining about the
name of the housing project. Seems they don't like: "Stay Free Mini-Pads."

There's just no pleasing some folks.



dpb August 19th 06 02:45 AM

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HeyBub wrote:
wrote:
"R & S" wrote:

....

I live in a small town of 17,000 and walmart has
DECIMATED this town of its mom and pop stores


Inasmuch as "decimate" means "to reduce by 10%," that's not too bad. If you
meant "destroyed," well, good-o. 17,000 people get lower prices, better
hours, and greater variety. ...


Main Entry: dec·i·mate
Pronunciation: 'de-s&-"mAt
Function: transitive verb
.....
3 a : to reduce drastically especially in number cholera decimated the
population b : to cause great destruction or harm to firebombs
decimated the city an industry decimated by recession

While you're correct with the first definition, it isn't really the one
in common use as the Roman legions have been gone for quite some time.
The above alternative is undoubtedly the most widely used these days,
particularly in the given context.

It's only slightly larger here and the same is also true wrt family
businesses.

And, it certainly isn't all good...those vacant storefronts aren't
valued anything close to what they would be if occupied and many are,
in fact, arrears in taxes as there's no incentive for the owners to
keep them current. Retail sales tax receipts haven't increased that
much and the rebates on property taxes and required services are enough
to pretty much wipe that out.

I'll grant longer hours, but who needs shopping at 2AM??? As for
selection and prices, the prime thing that happened is that everything
became lowest common denominator as Wal-Mart is not exactly known for
catering to anything except the masses.

As for the tire shop, I'm not impressed -- I'll continue to deal w/ the
local fellow I know and have known for 40 years. I don't need to worry
about somebody checking up on whether he did the work properly or not.


Ed August 19th 06 03:25 AM

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On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:33:25 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote:

Finally, after about ten minutes, I walked out, leaving about $300 worth of
merchandise sitting there.


I walked out leaving a purchase ticket for a $3600 outdoor shed laying
on the counter because 3.... Three.... THREE!.... McIdiots at the
register could not figure out how to do the transaction and the
manager would not answer his/her page. Two months later they burned
me on the last of three fraudulent rebates and I have never darkened
their sorry door again.

I do Lowe's because our local store employees knowledgeable people in
each department and they have cashiers that have brain power above
that of plant life. Actually our local Lowe's cashiers know how to
find items in a book at each register when that item does not have a
scan bar on it or if it comes out of a broken box.

Top marks to Lowe's and I wouldn't **** on Home Depot if it were on
fire.

Regards,

Ed August 19th 06 03:36 AM

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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:08:34 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

Silly me! Here was I thinking that retail stores were supposed to be
staffed by qualified, well-motivated people who know what the store
sells, where to find it, and whether that is what truly meets the
customer's needs.


It a thing of the past because Joe Beer Chucker has grown complacent
and expects unqualified, non-motivated brain dead turnips to be
working at these box outlets. Instead of demanding anything better,
Joe Sixpact just sluffs it off and keeps on coming back for more.

It use to be "America gets what America Wants", now it's "America Gets
what America lays down and Complacently Tolerates".

Regards,

mm August 19th 06 03:59 AM

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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:27:20 -0400, "HeatMan"
wrote:


"mm" wrote in message
.. .
On 18 Aug 2006 09:03:25 -0700, "dpb" wrote:

PS. Being in what most would consider a small town, there are the
occasional instances that there actually isn't much if any alternative
any longer as the influence of the BORG-syndrome is most observable on
the independent businesses in smaller communities which don't have the
population base to support the smaller merchants as well.


Former Georgia Congressman and former civil-rights activist Andrew
Young, I just heard on the radio, resigned today from a pro-Walmart
organization, after he was criticized for remarks he had made.


You have a link to that story?

No. I heard it on the radio, and the radio paraphrased it or I got it
wrong. Because I wasn't certain, that's why I didn't put what I had
in quotes,

But I don't think the sense was different from what he actually said.

I was also wrong about his being a Congressman, it seems. Ambassador
to the UN and mayor of Atlanta.


mm August 19th 06 03:59 AM

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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:59:49 GMT, "Tom G"
wrote:


"R & S" wrote in message
om...
I saw a documentary where Walmart gets 2-3 manufacture's reps in an room
and forces them to bid against one another down to the penny. They almost
destroyed Rubbermaid because the cost of raw materials went up and they
wouldn't renegotiate; Wall mart almost destroyed them. They don't treat
their employees much better either. There were allegations where they made
the employees punch out and forced them to continue working. Nice bunch of
folks.
Ron


Sister in law works at a WalMart. The "associates" were just told that all
wages are frozen as the company is opening two new stores in the area.
What's this, they can't tap their investors or profits for the money to do
that; they have to get the money off the backs of their present employees.
When she was off work because of cancer surgery, the store told her she had
to come back before the doctor recommended or they were going to give her
job to someone else. She begged the doctor for an early release. Then when
she couldn't handle carrying tires and batteries from the back room for the
mechanics to install, she asked her supervisor for a transfer to a position
that didn't require the heavy lifting. He told her he had an opening
unloading trucks....when she broke down in tears, he said "I was just
kidding". Insensitive clod or maybe typical of management at WalMart. A
fellow employee asked her once where her husband was at the moment and she
said that he was at a union meeting (works somewhere else). Her supervisor
overheard and called her into his office and told her that she couldn't use
that word (union) in the store and that he was supposed to write her up for
doing so but wasn't going to "this" time. What a place to work....I can't
believe the job market is so bad that people feel they have to put up with
that kind of crap.


I believe all of this, and I don't think it's unusual, and that's why
I don't like Walmart.

Tom G.



Ed August 19th 06 04:00 AM

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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:23:41 GMT, (Doug Miller)
wrote:

Well, that's what happens to people that don't have a college education...


Actually. I know a whole lot of non-college people in the "trades"
that are charging, and getting in the neighborhood of $35/hour. The
best I have heard of lately in our area is a commercial plumber that
gets $65/hr. I got my college education after getting out of the
service in the early 70's but never used it because there was no way I
could make the money I was already making in the Tile trade.

Now please don't get me wrong.... I am not advocating not getting a
college education. The merits of a college education are that some
college graduates can make as much money as a well paid tradesman
without having to physically bust their ass.

Back to the discussion at hand...... One can choose to work a McJob
for some slave driving bunch of trash in a dept store or flip burgers
at the Rot&Gut or they can learn a trade. But after seeing this
brain dead kid at McDonalds trying to make change and failing
miserably today, that might be a tall order to fill (Learning a
trade). However, for those that posses brain power somewhere above
plant life, a well paying trade is an option and alternative to
college.

Regards,

Ed August 19th 06 04:03 AM

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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:50:29 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

In India, for the non-degreed unemployed, all is not hopeless. There's still
black-market organ donation.


No, its a lot better there now. They are all now phone tech's for
Gateway, Dell, HP and all the other Sales and Marketing firms that
make you think they are computer manufacturers.

Regards,

Edwin Pawlowski August 19th 06 04:09 AM

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"dicko" wrote in message

You aught to read the Vlasic Pickle story. About how Walmart put
Vlasic Pickle out of business.

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html

It'd be hilarious if it werent so serious.

dickm


Interesting story. Only thing is, Wal Mart did not do them in, they really
did themselves in. At some point, you just have to say, "sorry, no deal"

Now, you are probably thinking, "easy for you to say" and I must reply, yes,
not only is it easy we did just that to two of our largest customers. The
first was a major appliance manufacturer that accounted for over 25% of our
sales and much of our profit. After doing a job for a year, they asked us
for a 10% price reduction. The reasoning was that by now we have paid off
our R & D and start-up costs, and we probably found better methods to make
our parts. They were correct and we agreed and the following year we did
well. Year three, they said in order to maintain their market share, they
have to reduce costs. They pressured us for another 5% and we agreed, but
they also went from 30 days to 120 days payment. That year was OK, but not
as profitable as it was in the past.

Now comes price negotiations for year four. They said they wanted a 25%
reduction (remember, it was already reduced 10% and 5%). And, if we agreed,
they also wanted a 6% rebate for the business from the previous year. That
is when we said "sorry, no deal, where do you want your tooling shipped?"
We watched as they took truckloads of material from our competitor. We
watched as our competitor struggled and finally closed a manufacturing
plant when they did not make enough to pay their bills. As for the
appliance manufacturer, they closed their plant and now import everything
from China and Korea.

Two years later, we were faced with another situation. We walked from that
also. We made more profit from less sales. Not every sale is a good one.




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