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OT - Honeywell Thermostats (was Boston Central Artery Project: $190M Video System has No Videos of Accident)
John S wrote:
Elmer wrote: This lucrative contract was awarded to Honeywell, a company known for those ubiquitous, round thermostats containing toxic mercury, Just about every thermostat manufactured by anyone contained mercury. (The alternative was bimetallic strips which are nowhere near as precise, and today digital thermostats have become popular.) But how is that relevant here? The mercury in thermostats was not used for temperature sensing. The "classic" Honeywell thermostats used a bimetallic strip curled into a coil. The two different metals in the strip expand and contract in response to temperature changes at different rates from each other, causing a rotation of the coil. Attached to the coil is a small, sealed glass bulb with two contacts at one end. There's a small ball of liquid mercury in the glass bulb which closes the circuit between the contacts when it is tipped towards that direction. The rotation of the coil happens very slowly as the temperature changes, but once it reaches a certain point, gravity causes the mercury to roll to the opposite end of the glass bulb all at once. This achieves a quick on-off transition that minimizes arcing or bouncing. The set point was adjusted by simply rotating the bimetallic coil so that the transition occured at a different temperature. It was an elegantly simple, very reliable design which became the industry standard for residental and commercial use for many years. The environmental dangers of mercury have become more apparent in recent times. In service, they pose no hazard, but items like this must be recycled in a mercury specific program, and not disposed of into regular trash. Alternatives to using mercury in thermostats involved some other mechanical design that would provide a "snap-action" transition from on to off at the desired temperature. Mercury was only appropriate for low voltage, low current switching. Any line voltage thermostat would use a mechanical contact closure. An alternative to using bimetallic strips is a gas filled bellows which expands and contracts in response to temperature changes. Other companies besides Honeywell used mercury in their thermostats in both bimetallic and gas bellows designs, but the mercury was still only used for switching, and not for temperature sensing. Today, solid state temperature sensors have made bimetallic and gas bellows designs obsolete, and other electronic components perform the switching function instead of mercury. My reason for mentioning Honeywell thermostats in the first place was because they're a very common household product that almost everyone's familiar with. It was an excellent product for it's day (although that was fifty years ago). Elmer |
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OT - Honeywell Thermostats (was Boston Central Artery Project:$190M Video System has No Videos of Accident)
Elmer wrote:
The environmental dangers of mercury have become more apparent in recent times. Haven't the dangers or mercury been known for a long time? There is the Mad Hatter in Alice in Wonderland. Hatters were mad because they were exposed to mercury vapor in making hats and suffered neurological damage. John Mara |
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OT - Honeywell Thermostats (was Boston Central Artery Project: $190M Video System has No Videos of Accident)
John Mara wrote: Elmer wrote: The environmental dangers of mercury have become more apparent in recent times. Haven't the dangers or mercury been known for a long time? There is the Mad Hatter in Alice in Wonderland. Hatters were mad because they were exposed to mercury vapor in making hats and suffered neurological damage. John Mara The direct exposure to mercury, yes. But people did not think about what happened when products containing mercury were thrown in the trash. Mercury pollution from landfills and incinerators is now known to be a significant problem and only recently have mercury specific recycling programs been implemented. Elmer |
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OT - Honeywell Thermostats (was Boston Central Artery Project: $190M Video System has No Videos of Accident)
On 15 Jul 2006 18:07:34 -0700, "Elmer" wrote:
John Mara wrote: Elmer wrote: The environmental dangers of mercury have become more apparent in recent times. Haven't the dangers or mercury been known for a long time? There is the Mad Hatter in Alice in Wonderland. Hatters were mad because they were exposed to mercury vapor in making hats and suffered neurological damage. John Mara The direct exposure to mercury, yes. But people did not think about what happened when products containing mercury were thrown in the trash. Mercury pollution from landfills and incinerators is now known to be a significant problem and only recently have mercury specific recycling programs been implemented. My father used mercury when making fillings for teeth. I think I expressed interest, or maybe he knew it would be interesting, so he gave me maybe 4 cubic centimeters of it when I was 6, but I have to admit, I've never found a use for it (except watching it). I think I got another 4cc when he died 2 years later. I'm 59 now, and have moved about 6 times, but the mercury has only had to move 4 times in all these years. I keep saving it for a special occasion. Like repairing mercury switches, but it was easier to buy another switch, or use the ones built into car trunk and hood lights. Elmer |
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OT - Honeywell Thermostats (was Boston Central Artery Project: $190M Video System has No Videos of Accident)
"mm" wrote in message My father used mercury when making fillings for teeth. I think I expressed interest, or maybe he knew it would be interesting, so he gave me maybe 4 cubic centimeters of it when I was 6, but I have to admit, I've never found a use for it (except watching it). I think I got another 4cc when he died 2 years later. I'm 59 now, and have moved about 6 times, but the mercury has only had to move 4 times in all these years. I keep saving it for a special occasion. Like repairing mercury switches, but it was easier to buy another switch, or use the ones built into car trunk and hood lights. Elmer Take it to any big building you want to shut down. Like a school or government office. Drop it on the floor and start yelling Mercury, Mercury! Al |
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OT - Honeywell Thermostats (was Boston Central Artery Project: $190M Video System has No Videos of Accident)
mm wrote: My father used mercury when making fillings for teeth. I think I expressed interest, or maybe he knew it would be interesting, so he gave me maybe 4 cubic centimeters of it when I was 6, but I have to admit, I've never found a use for it (except watching it). I think I got another 4cc when he died 2 years later. I'm 59 now, and have moved about 6 times, but the mercury has only had to move 4 times in all these years. I keep saving it for a special occasion. Like repairing mercury switches, but it was easier to buy another switch, or use the ones built into car trunk and hood lights. Is this one of those "Who am I?" riddle questions? It sounds like one of those puzzlers from the "Car Talk" guys radio program. Elmer |
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OT - Honeywell Thermostats (was Boston Central Artery Project: $190M Video System has No Videos of Accident)
On 16 Jul 2006 00:11:12 -0700, "Elmer" wrote:
mm wrote: My father used mercury when making fillings for teeth. I think I expressed interest, or maybe he knew it would be interesting, so he gave me maybe 4 cubic centimeters of it when I was 6, but I have to admit, I've never found a use for it (except watching it). I think I got another 4cc when he died 2 years later. I'm 59 now, and have moved about 6 times, but the mercury has only had to move 4 times in all these years. I keep saving it for a special occasion. Like repairing mercury switches, but it was easier to buy another switch, or use the ones built into car trunk and hood lights. Is this one of those "Who am I?" riddle questions? It sounds like one of those puzzlers from the "Car Talk" guys radio program. You know you're right. I just left out the question, how do you get the car running again? Big Al's plan is good, too. Elmer |
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