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I am looking at getting replacement windows and wa contacted by Melani
Brothers. A company that installs windows, siding and decks. The price they quoted me for 8 windows/installation is approx $8500. The demo window they brought out to my house, created by SunriseWindows seemed very high quality with no dead space with inthe frame or construction. The window is laser fused and is not mechanicaly (screws and bolts) constructed. They compared their window to a replacement window purchased from Lowes or Home Depot in how it is constructed and the overall quality, their window does seem far above what they tell me about the competitors windows, but it is just that... what they tell me. Is $8500 a fair price for the windows and installation? Where would be a good place to go for information about their quality and workmanship? I have gone to BBB website and there were less than 10 complaints, all of which were resolved in one way or another. The windows are (2) 32x66 and (6) 32x52. Thanks for any help/advice you can give me. Carl |
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Agreed as usual with ToddH, 8500 is about double what I would have
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"Carl" writes: Is $8500 a fair price for the windows and installation? Where would be a good place to go for information about their quality and workmanship? I have gone to BBB website and there were less than 10 complaints, all of which were resolved in one way or another. The windows are (2) 32x66 and (6) 32x52. Over $1000 a window? Jesus. I got a 1970 built 4br raised ranch home re-sided in vinyl and all 12 windows replaced for less than that total of $8500. Get more quotes. I got some Alside windows that I dearly miss at about $350 installed a piece--I think we did 12 of them. They weren't as long as your windows, but a similar quote was given to me at my new place which has these longer windows. Best Regards, -- Todd H. http://www.toddh.net/ |
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Look into windows with known quality like Marvin Anderson and Pella.
Consumers Reports has a good article on windows it was a test of 23 done a few years ago. Go to www.EnergyStar.gov to learn about your investment, there is alot to learn as none are made or perform equaly. |
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"Carl" wrote in message ups.com... I am looking at getting replacement windows and wa contacted by Melani Brothers. A company that installs windows, siding and decks. The price they quoted me for 8 windows/installation is approx $8500. The demo window they brought out to my house, created by SunriseWindows seemed very high quality with no dead space with inthe frame or construction. The window is laser fused and is not mechanicaly (screws and bolts) constructed. They compared their window to a replacement window purchased from Lowes or Home Depot in how it is constructed and the overall quality, their window does seem far above what they tell me about the competitors windows, but it is just that... what they tell me. Is $8500 a fair price for the windows and installation? Where would be a good place to go for information about their quality and workmanship? I have gone to BBB website and there were less than 10 complaints, all of which were resolved in one way or another. The windows are (2) 32x66 and (6) 32x52. check w/alside. ours were 400ea, installed, for L+W=100in. |
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"Todd H." wrote Get more quotes. I got some Alside windows that I dearly miss at about $350 installed a piece--I think we did 12 of them. They weren't as long as your windows, but a similar quote was given to me at my new place which has these longer windows. I agree Alside manufactures a decent window. And, they've been around for a long time. I do know they back their products. The OP should be able to get a better product and much better price, for the size of the openings. |
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Carl wrote:
I am looking at getting replacement windows and wa contacted by Melani Brothers. A company that installs windows, siding and decks. The price they quoted me for 8 windows/installation is approx $8500. The demo window they brought out to my house, created by SunriseWindows seemed very high quality with no dead space with inthe frame or construction. The window is laser fused and is not mechanicaly (screws and bolts) constructed. They compared their window to a replacement window purchased from Lowes or Home Depot in how it is constructed and the overall quality, their window does seem far above what they tell me about the competitors windows, but it is just that... what they tell me. Is $8500 a fair price for the windows and installation? Where would be a good place to go for information about their quality and workmanship? I have gone to BBB website and there were less than 10 complaints, all of which were resolved in one way or another. The windows are (2) 32x66 and (6) 32x52. Thanks for any help/advice you can give me. Carl By laser-fused I'm guessing it's vinyl? If so, based on the price I paid for similarly sized windows in a house I remodeled for resale, you should be looking at no more than 2 grand installed including formed aluminum outside coverage. All vinyl is crap anyway and begins to get brittle from UV exposure upon installation, so "premium prices" don't get you any more longevity. |
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"Carl" wrote in message ups.com... I am looking at getting replacement windows and wa contacted by Melani Brothers. A company that installs windows, siding and decks. The price they quoted me for 8 windows/installation is approx $8500. The demo window they brought out to my house, created by SunriseWindows seemed very high quality with no dead space with inthe frame or construction. The window is laser fused and is not mechanicaly (screws and bolts) constructed. They compared their window to a replacement window purchased from Lowes or Home Depot in how it is constructed and the overall quality, their window does seem far above what they tell me about the competitors windows, but it is just that... what they tell me. Is $8500 a fair price for the windows and installation? Where would be a good place to go for information about their quality and workmanship? I have gone to BBB website and there were less than 10 complaints, all of which were resolved in one way or another. The windows are (2) 32x66 and (6) 32x52. I just finished replacing my 13 windows with Jeld-wen low-e argon for approx $2500 doing the install myself. They have a lifetime warranty. http://jeld-wen.com/ Those size windows should be approx $200 each. Home Depot sells them and installs at a decent price, probably $100/window for that size. |
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On 13 Jun 2006 13:50:28 -0700, "Carl" wrote:
I am looking at getting replacement windows and wa contacted by Melani Brothers. A company that installs windows, siding and decks. The price they quoted me for 8 windows/installation is approx $8500. The demo window they brought out to my house, created by SunriseWindows seemed very high quality with no dead space with inthe frame or construction. The window is laser fused and is not mechanicaly (screws and bolts) constructed. They compared their window to a replacement window purchased from Lowes or Home Depot in how it is constructed and the overall quality, their window does seem far above what they tell me about the competitors windows, but it is just that... what they tell me. Is $8500 a fair price for the windows and installation? Where would be a good place to go for information about their quality and workmanship? I have gone to BBB website and there were less than 10 complaints, all of which were resolved in one way or another. The windows are (2) 32x66 and (6) 32x52. Thanks for any help/advice you can give me. Carl That $8500 price is exhorbitant! I assume that you are talking about vinyl frame replacement windows that drop into the original window framing and not new construction windows? Another poster suggested Pella, Marvin or Anderson windows but they are not known for replacement windows, at least not around here. Also, despite the statement made by another poster that vinyl windows deteriorate rapdily due to UV exposure, I've not found that to be the case. I've installed over 50 of them, some going back 20 years. So far, there's been no noticeable deterioration of the vinyl. If the vinyl did indeed deteriorate that fast, vinyl siding makers wouldn't be able to offer their warranties. The makers add UV inhibitor chemicals to protect the vinyl. The H-D windows sold under the American Craftsman brand are actually quite decent. Their better 8500 series has low E glass, 7/8" glass spacing, Argon filled AND fusion welded frames. The price for just the windows (no installation) in your sizes runs around $175 to $200/ea. When I've been too busy to do my own installs, I use a local supplier that installs a similar high quality low-E/Argon filled/Fusion welded double hung window for around $225/ea in minimum quantities of 5 per job site. Doug Slumlord par excellance! |
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Doug wrote: ...despite the statement made by another poster that vinyl windows deteriorate rapdily due to UV exposure, I've not found that to be the case. I've installed over 50 of them, some going back 20 years. Agreed. We had our vinyl windows replaced recently after 35 years. They looked like new, but were single pane with storm windows and many of the clips that hold the windows up were broken. A real PIA to clean. Deteriorated? No way! The new Alside windows are easier to open, close, clean, better insulation and are more secure. Paid $5000 for job including removal of old windows, hauling them away, installation and flashing, 16 windows including a large picture window in the livingroom. Lena |
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The right price is about 350-450.00 per window installed. $8500.00 is
robbery. Lena wrote: Doug wrote: ...despite the statement made by another poster that vinyl windows deteriorate rapdily due to UV exposure, I've not found that to be the case. I've installed over 50 of them, some going back 20 years. Agreed. We had our vinyl windows replaced recently after 35 years. They looked like new, but were single pane with storm windows and many of the clips that hold the windows up were broken. A real PIA to clean. Deteriorated? No way! The new Alside windows are easier to open, close, clean, better insulation and are more secure. Paid $5000 for job including removal of old windows, hauling them away, installation and flashing, 16 windows including a large picture window in the livingroom. Lena |
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"Carl" wrote in message ups.com... I am looking at getting replacement windows and wa contacted by Melani Brothers. A company that installs windows, siding and decks. The price they quoted me for 8 windows/installation is approx $8500. The demo window they brought out to my house, created by SunriseWindows seemed very high quality with no dead space with inthe frame or construction. The window is laser fused and is not mechanicaly (screws and bolts) constructed. They compared their window to a replacement window purchased from Lowes or Home Depot in how it is constructed and the overall quality, their window does seem far above what they tell me about the competitors windows, but it is just that... what they tell me. Is $8500 a fair price for the windows and installation? Where would be a good place to go for information about their quality and workmanship? I have gone to BBB website and there were less than 10 complaints, all of which were resolved in one way or another. The windows are (2) 32x66 and (6) 32x52. Thanks for any help/advice you can give me. Carl Last year the cost of a 32x70 DH vinyl here was $169.00. I am sure the cost is somewhat higher now then it was a year ago BUT; I think I would shop a little more if I were you. Colbyt |
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Bob (but not THAT Bob) wrote: Carl wrote: I am looking at getting replacement windows and wa contacted by Melani Brothers. A company that installs windows, siding and decks. The price they quoted me for 8 windows/installation is approx $8500. The demo window they brought out to my house, created by SunriseWindows seemed very high quality with no dead space with inthe frame or construction. The window is laser fused and is not mechanicaly (screws and bolts) constructed. They compared their window to a replacement window purchased from Lowes or Home Depot in how it is constructed and the overall quality, their window does seem far above what they tell me about the competitors windows, but it is just that... what they tell me. Is $8500 a fair price for the windows and installation? Where would be a good place to go for information about their quality and workmanship? I have gone to BBB website and there were less than 10 complaints, all of which were resolved in one way or another. The windows are (2) 32x66 and (6) 32x52. Thanks for any help/advice you can give me. Carl By laser-fused I'm guessing it's vinyl? If so, based on the price I paid for similarly sized windows in a house I remodeled for resale, you should be looking at no more than 2 grand installed including formed aluminum outside coverage. All vinyl is crap anyway and begins to get brittle from UV exposure upon installation, so "premium prices" don't get you any more longevity. Your premium wood windows will be in a landfill for twenty years while those Vinyl windows are still on your house. |
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In article .com,
ToMh wrote: Your premium wood windows will be in a landfill for twenty years while those Vinyl windows are still on your house. Yes, which is why my 77 year old wooden windows are still in place on my house... Dimitri |
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D. Gerasimatos wrote: my 77 year old wooden windows are still in place on my house... How many times have they been painted? Reglazed? Do they stick? How difficult are they to clean, on the outside? Have the counterweight cables been replaced? Do you bother to open them on a cool day or is it too much trouble? Do you have storm windows over them? Do they sweat in the winter? Wood windows are a lot of work, aren't they? Lena |
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In article .com,
Lena wrote: D. Gerasimatos wrote: my 77 year old wooden windows are still in place on my house... How many times have they been painted? Reglazed? Do they stick? How difficult are they to clean, on the outside? Have the counterweight cables been replaced? Do you bother to open them on a cool day or is it too much trouble? Do you have storm windows over them? Do they sweat in the winter? Wood windows are a lot of work, aren't they? Are you kidding me? The previous owner put in 3 vinyl windows and I can't wait to get rid of them in favor of wood. Dimitri |
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On 14 Jun 2006 13:10:50 -0700, "Lena" wrote:
D. Gerasimatos wrote: my 77 year old wooden windows are still in place on my house... How many times have they been painted? Reglazed? Do they stick? How difficult are they to clean, on the outside? Have the counterweight cables been replaced? Do you bother to open them on a cool day or is it too much trouble? Do you have storm windows over them? Do they sweat in the winter? Wood windows are a lot of work, aren't they? They've been painted about every 10 years or so. Reglazed as needed, mostly on the south and west sides. They don't stick, and we've replaced a few of the counterweight cables. We always open them on a cool day, without hesitation. We do have storm windows over all except one attic dormer window that I plan to build a simple storm for, just to protect the main window. They do not sweat in the winter (western New York). They're really hardly any work, and again, the return on investment for replacing them is on the order of 30 years. No, thanks, honey. I'll stick with these. |
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It's important to note that they don't make wood they way they used to. Older windows are worth maintaining. Now these 12 year old piece of **** builder windows made of fast growth pine, I'll be replacing with vinyl just as goddamn soon as I have the money to do so. These things suck. I'm sure the 77 year old windows, however, will last and if yer willing to do the maintenance, they'll look good doing so. -- Todd H. http://www.toddh.net/ |
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Lena wrote: D. Gerasimatos wrote: my 77 year old wooden windows are still in place on my house... How many times have they been painted? Reglazed? Do they stick? How difficult are they to clean, on the outside? Have the counterweight cables been replaced? Do you bother to open them on a cool day or is it too much trouble? Do you have storm windows over them? Do they sweat in the winter? Wood windows are a lot of work, aren't they? Lena For our (former) house, the windows were repainted after 7 years. No reglazing was necessary. One window did stick, and the counterweight cables had been replaced in all windows at some undefined point in the past. We opened them when we needed the windows opened, they had storms put on in the fall and taken off in the spring. No sweating noticable. Um, yes, wood windows are more work than buying vinyl windows every 5 years or so -- but by the same token, washing my clothes is more work than just buying new ones every day. And with vinyl, you get that weird white trim, which shouts 'bland!' (How can people stand to have their interior window trim not match their interior baseboard/chair rail trim? Just too strange...) Caledonia |
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Caledonia wrote: Lena wrote: D. Gerasimatos wrote: my 77 year old wooden windows are still in place on my house... How many times have they been painted? Reglazed? Do they stick? How difficult are they to clean, on the outside? Have the counterweight cables been replaced? Do you bother to open them on a cool day or is it too much trouble? Do you have storm windows over them? Do they sweat in the winter? Wood windows are a lot of work, aren't they? Lena For our (former) house, the windows were repainted after 7 years. No reglazing was necessary. One window did stick, and the counterweight cables had been replaced in all windows at some undefined point in the past. We opened them when we needed the windows opened, they had storms put on in the fall and taken off in the spring. No sweating noticable. Um, yes, wood windows are more work than buying vinyl windows every 5 years or so -- but by the same token, washing my clothes is more work than just buying new ones every day. And with vinyl, you get that weird white trim, which shouts 'bland!' (How can people stand to have their interior window trim not match their interior baseboard/chair rail trim? Just too strange...) Caledonia I've had vinyl windows and 2 sliding doors (EPI) for 15 years, including one big 10'x5' Zero problems and no maintainence, other than cleaning. They look and work as good as the day we got them. |
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"Caledonia" wrote in message Um, yes, wood windows are more work than buying vinyl windows every 5 years or so -- but by the same token, washing my clothes is more work than just buying new ones every day. It would be interesting to know, which brands need replaced every 5 yrs or so. As a former contractor, now retired, I put thousands of windows in, wood & vinyl. I only used two vinyl manufacturers, one I mentioned in an earlier post. The two I used, guaranteed all the vinyl sashes/frames etc for life. It wasn't empty guaranties, because customers contacted me, even after 25 years. I seen the manufacturers take care of the guaranties. Of course not all manufacturers use virgin vinyl, or stand behind their guaranties. To make a blanket statement about having to replace vinyl windows every 5 years or so, is simply not true. And with vinyl, you get that weird white trim, which shouts 'bland!' (How can people stand to have their interior window trim not match their interior baseboard/chair rail trim? Just too strange...) Absolutely not true. Vinyl windows, just like any other window, can be trimmed out according to taste and budget. |
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Carl wrote:
I am looking at getting replacement windows and wa contacted by Melani Brothers. A company that installs windows, siding and decks. The price they quoted me for 8 windows/installation is approx $8500. (snip) Is $8500 a fair price for the windows and installation? Where would be a good place to go for information about their quality and workmanship? I'm pretty much in the same boat as you but I have learned a LOT about windows in the past couple months as I go through the process of figuring out the best way to do my window replacement. We had a guy from Pella come out to my house and give us a quote of basically $865 per window installed for a bunch of double-hung wood replacement windows (using the existing trim) all of custom sizes. I thought that was high, asked about it here and was told it was actually pretty reasonable for a custom wood window of Pella quality. (And they are quality windows.) And that's with Pella-spec'd and supervised installation. I'm now in the process of also pricing Andersen and some other vinyl manufacturers, along with Marvin for wood. I'm not finding a huge difference in price and I don't really want vinyl. Andersen is about $750 per hole for vinyl in the sizes I need. I'm not sure about Marvin yet but hoping I can use their tilt-pac system and maybe save at least a little cash on wood. The size you need makes a HUGE difference. You can get standard sized replacement windows for a couple hundred bucks and install them yourself fairly easily (depending on what kind of original windows you have). But if you've got an older home with odd sized windows (as I do) that all need to be custom-made these days, then you're going to pay a big premium. This is what I've unfortunately learned. You were quoted more than $1,000 per window - that sounds pretty high, but then you do have a couple of pretty big windows and I don't know if your other six are standard or not. You might want to look around manufacturer web sites and see if anybody offers those sizes as a standard window. Also, I can't remember if you said these are full windows or replacements. As for the vinyl vs. wood argument - in my house we have about 20 80-year-old wood counterweight windows and 2 newer vinyl windows (kitchen and bathroom). The kitchen casement Andersen window looks ok and feels like decent quality, but the Andersen double-hung in the bathroom just looks and feels like cheap plastic. Even the kitchen window is just lacking that warm "imperfectness" of natural wood, though. It's a personal preference thing. For me, I'm not so concerned with whether a window's gonna last me 25 years or a lifetime - I'm probably going to sell my house in 7-10 years anyway. But I want something that looks good, feels nice to the touch and fits the rest of my house. That means wood for all the public areas, barring a major, major price difference between wood and vinyl. I do still plan to probably just go with cheap vinyl for the attic and basement once we get around to doing those. (I actually love our old counterweight windows, but a few of them are just completely shot to hell and there are some rooms where I've gotta match bay windows and things like that.) Most of my neighbors have both vinyl windows and vinyl siding and they look like houses you might buy as a blue-light special at K-Mart. |
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In article , Bert Hyman says...
In (Todd H.) wrote: Now these 12 year old piece of **** builder windows made of fast growth pine, I'll be replacing with vinyl just as goddamn soon as I have the money to do so. These things suck. Careful; you may be saying the same thing about your vinyl windows in a few years. We have a bunch of 'em and the ones that are opened (and closed) a lot now leak air; the plastic-on-plastic bearing surfaces apparently wear quite a bit. The ones that don't get opened very often are still in good shape. When we remodeled the kitchen, we got aluminum (exterior) clad wood windows from Marvin. They've only been in 6 years, but so far, so good. I have nine Marvin aluminum exterior clad wood Marvin tilt pack double hung replacement windows now, the oldest put in about ten years ago, no problems. Banty -- |
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Moisés Nacio wrote: "Caledonia" wrote in message Um, yes, wood windows are more work than buying vinyl windows every 5 years or so -- but by the same token, washing my clothes is more work than just buying new ones every day. It would be interesting to know, which brands need replaced every 5 yrs or so. My neighbor replaced her 4 Newpro windows for leaking after ~4 years. Other contractors have mentioned that those (Newpro) aren't so great. As a former contractor, now retired, I put thousands of windows in, wood & vinyl. I only used two vinyl manufacturers, one I mentioned in an earlier post. The two I used, guaranteed all the vinyl sashes/frames etc for life. It wasn't empty guaranties, because customers contacted me, even after 25 years. I seen the manufacturers take care of the guaranties. Of course not all manufacturers use virgin vinyl, or stand behind their guaranties. To make a blanket statement about having to replace vinyl windows every 5 years or so, is simply not true. That's true -- it's highly unlikely that all vinyl windows would need replacement within a decade. Some most likely will, some likely won't. And with vinyl, you get that weird white trim, which shouts 'bland!' (How can people stand to have their interior window trim not match their interior baseboard/chair rail trim? Just too strange...) Absolutely not true. Vinyl windows, just like any other window, can be trimmed out according to taste and budget. Wow -- I have learned something new today. I've only seen vinyl windows with white muntins, and had believed that it wasn't possible to get the black (or dark green clad) vinyl windows due to heat issues. (Most windows in my area are the divided light (12 over 12) style -- typically painted black or dark green on the house's exterior, and painted to match the room trim on the interior.) Out of curiosity, who makes vinyl windows clad in 'historic' dark colors for the exterior, with paintable interiors? Caledonia |
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Just replaced my slider windows with Andersen Renew with stainable oak
laminate. So far they seem OK (very expensive though). Wood finish not as fine as I would have liked ,but its better than OK. Had no choice since only Andersen had a slider replacement with wood interior.Marvin unit only had one of the sashes moveable, kind of dumb. Andersen service has been great,makes the $$ easier to handle. Frank "Caledonia" wrote in message oups.com... Moisés Nacio wrote: "Caledonia" wrote in message Um, yes, wood windows are more work than buying vinyl windows every 5 years or so -- but by the same token, washing my clothes is more work than just buying new ones every day. It would be interesting to know, which brands need replaced every 5 yrs or so. My neighbor replaced her 4 Newpro windows for leaking after ~4 years. Other contractors have mentioned that those (Newpro) aren't so great. As a former contractor, now retired, I put thousands of windows in, wood & vinyl. I only used two vinyl manufacturers, one I mentioned in an earlier post. The two I used, guaranteed all the vinyl sashes/frames etc for life. It wasn't empty guaranties, because customers contacted me, even after 25 years. I seen the manufacturers take care of the guaranties. Of course not all manufacturers use virgin vinyl, or stand behind their guaranties. To make a blanket statement about having to replace vinyl windows every 5 years or so, is simply not true. That's true -- it's highly unlikely that all vinyl windows would need replacement within a decade. Some most likely will, some likely won't. And with vinyl, you get that weird white trim, which shouts 'bland!' (How can people stand to have their interior window trim not match their interior baseboard/chair rail trim? Just too strange...) Absolutely not true. Vinyl windows, just like any other window, can be trimmed out according to taste and budget. Wow -- I have learned something new today. I've only seen vinyl windows with white muntins, and had believed that it wasn't possible to get the black (or dark green clad) vinyl windows due to heat issues. (Most windows in my area are the divided light (12 over 12) style -- typically painted black or dark green on the house's exterior, and painted to match the room trim on the interior.) Out of curiosity, who makes vinyl windows clad in 'historic' dark colors for the exterior, with paintable interiors? Caledonia |
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"Caledonia" writes:
painted to match the room trim on the interior.) Out of curiosity, who makes vinyl windows clad in 'historic' dark colors for the exterior, with paintable interiors? Not sure, but I had woodgrain interior treatment to my vinyl windows, and trimmed it with red oak, stained with... oh, some standard minwax stain color. Unless you got your eyeball right up to the window and felt it, you'd never know the interior wasn't wood. I personally like white as a trim color on the outside to provide contrast to the house's siding or brick color and didn't investigate different outdoor finish colors, but indoor wise, the wood grains on the "oak" finished Alside vinyl windows looked very nice. -- Todd H. http://www.toddh.net/ |
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my vinyl windows are 12 or 13 years old, I have replaced 3 sealed units
2 of which take heavy abuse of 4 dogs jumping against. spent about 100 bucks on the sealed units, the manufacturer reynolds got out of window business and the local dealer wouldnt return my calls. lifetime warrantys dont necessarily last forever. my windows havent had any troubles other than a couple minor adjkustments, they have metal interior reinforcements. |
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"Caledonia" wrote in message My neighbor replaced her 4 Newpro windows for leaking after ~4 years. Other contractors have mentioned that those (Newpro) aren't so great. Never heard of them. You've pointed out the exact reason, to stick with a well known brand. Wow -- I have learned something new today. I've only seen vinyl windows with white muntins, and had believed that it wasn't possible to get the black (or dark green clad) vinyl windows due to heat issues. (Most windows in my area are the divided light (12 over 12) style -- typically painted black or dark green on the house's exterior, and painted to match the room trim on the interior.) Out of curiosity, who makes vinyl windows clad in 'historic' dark colors for the exterior, with paintable interiors? When you deal with a reputable window manufacture, you can get windows configured just about anyway you can dream up. The mutins are between the panes. You can order vinyl in shades of brown, green, white, with the interior done in different shades of laminate. As far as a paintable vinyl, paint manufacturers such as S/W & B/M, both produce paint with properties which will adhere to just about any surface imaginable, with proper prep and primer. Which is the same way you would paint wood windows. Out of curiosity, who makes wood windows clad in 'historic' dark colors? You seem to be heading way off topic, towards historic restoration, of which I didn't get a hint of, until now. |
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In article , Moisés Nacio says...
"Caledonia" wrote in message My neighbor replaced her 4 Newpro windows for leaking after ~4 years. Other contractors have mentioned that those (Newpro) aren't so great. Never heard of them. You've pointed out the exact reason, to stick with a well known brand. Wow -- I have learned something new today. I've only seen vinyl windows with white muntins, and had believed that it wasn't possible to get the black (or dark green clad) vinyl windows due to heat issues. (Most windows in my area are the divided light (12 over 12) style -- typically painted black or dark green on the house's exterior, and painted to match the room trim on the interior.) Out of curiosity, who makes vinyl windows clad in 'historic' dark colors for the exterior, with paintable interiors? When you deal with a reputable window manufacture, you can get windows configured just about anyway you can dream up. The mutins are between the panes. You can order vinyl in shades of brown, green, white, with the interior done in different shades of laminate. As far as a paintable vinyl, paint manufacturers such as S/W & B/M, both produce paint with properties which will adhere to just about any surface imaginable, with proper prep and primer. Which is the same way you would paint wood windows. Out of curiosity, who makes wood windows clad in 'historic' dark colors? Marvin. http://www.marvin.com/default.aspx?p..._Hung.exterior Banty -- |
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Moisés Nacio wrote: "Caledonia" wrote in message My neighbor replaced her 4 Newpro windows for leaking after ~4 years. Other contractors have mentioned that those (Newpro) aren't so great. Never heard of them. You've pointed out the exact reason, to stick with a well known brand. Wow -- I have learned something new today. I've only seen vinyl windows with white muntins, and had believed that it wasn't possible to get the black (or dark green clad) vinyl windows due to heat issues. (Most windows in my area are the divided light (12 over 12) style -- typically painted black or dark green on the house's exterior, and painted to match the room trim on the interior.) Out of curiosity, who makes vinyl windows clad in 'historic' dark colors for the exterior, with paintable interiors? When you deal with a reputable window manufacture, you can get windows configured just about anyway you can dream up. The mutins are between the panes. You can order vinyl in shades of brown, green, white, with the interior done in different shades of laminate. As far as a paintable vinyl, paint manufacturers such as S/W & B/M, both produce paint with properties which will adhere to just about any surface imaginable, with proper prep and primer. Which is the same way you would paint wood windows. Out of curiosity, who makes wood windows clad in 'historic' dark colors? You seem to be heading way off topic, towards historic restoration, of which I didn't get a hint of, until now. I don't know of any wood windows that arrive pre-painted in dark colors. But hey, isn't that the hassle/benefit factor of wood windows which we were discussing? I'm not so much into historic restoration (although I am embittered to be living in a house built within the last 50 years) -- but interested in 'fitting in' to the neighborhood look, as everything here is old or pretending to look that way. (We are, alas, in the second category...) Caledonia |
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"Caledonia" wrote I don't know of any wood windows that arrive pre-painted in dark colors. But hey, isn't that the hassle/benefit factor of wood windows which we were discussing? I was being sarcastic to your remark of "Out of curiosity, who makes vinyl windows clad in 'historic' dark colors for the exterior, with paintable interiors?" Myself, I don't care for painted trim work, or windows. That's what makes the world go around, everyone is different, and everyone decorates their own home, to their own taste. As I said in my original reply about taste & budget. |
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Banty wrote: In article , Moisés Nacio says... "Caledonia" wrote in message My neighbor replaced her 4 Newpro windows for leaking after ~4 years. Other contractors have mentioned that those (Newpro) aren't so great. Never heard of them. You've pointed out the exact reason, to stick with a well known brand. Wow -- I have learned something new today. I've only seen vinyl windows with white muntins, and had believed that it wasn't possible to get the black (or dark green clad) vinyl windows due to heat issues. (Most windows in my area are the divided light (12 over 12) style -- typically painted black or dark green on the house's exterior, and painted to match the room trim on the interior.) Out of curiosity, who makes vinyl windows clad in 'historic' dark colors for the exterior, with paintable interiors? When you deal with a reputable window manufacture, you can get windows configured just about anyway you can dream up. The mutins are between the panes. You can order vinyl in shades of brown, green, white, with the interior done in different shades of laminate. As far as a paintable vinyl, paint manufacturers such as S/W & B/M, both produce paint with properties which will adhere to just about any surface imaginable, with proper prep and primer. Which is the same way you would paint wood windows. Out of curiosity, who makes wood windows clad in 'historic' dark colors? Marvin. http://www.marvin.com/default.aspx?p..._Hung.exterior Banty Oh, geez, I wish I hadn't seen that. Time to run the ROI calcs again... Caledonia |
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