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Condensor Capcitor
"GigDaddy" wrote in message ... My 9 year old goodman ac quit working over the weekend. Had a friend that knows a little about ac look at it. He said that the run capacitor for the compressor was bad. The one that was in there was rated at 35 micro farads. He put in a 45 micro farad one and said that there would not be a problem. The system runs now but the different size capacitor has me concerned. Will this cause a problem or not? Thanks, 45 is too big. Rule of thumb is "within 10%", thus in this case nothing but a 35 will do. If a capacitor is oversized, then too much voltage may develop across it, exceeding its voltage rating and causing premature failure. Also the start winding is not designed for the extra current that bigger capacitor will send through it. Richard Perry |
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"GigDaddy" wrote in message ... My 9 year old goodman ac quit working over the weekend. Had a friend that knows a little about ac look at it. He said that the run capacitor for the compressor was bad. The one that was in there was rated at 35 micro farads. He put in a 45 micro farad one and said that there would not be a problem. The system runs now but the different size capacitor has me concerned. Will this cause a problem or not? Thanks, 45 is too big. Rule of thumb is "within 10%", thus in this case nothing but a 35 will do. If a capacitor is oversized, then too much voltage may develop across it, exceeding its voltage rating and causing premature failure. Also the start winding is not designed for the extra current that bigger capacitor will send through it. Richard Perry Given that most of them have a tolerance of 20% or more, your rule of thumb surprises me. -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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Condenser Capacitor
"CJT" wrote in message ... RP wrote: "GigDaddy" wrote in message ... My 9 year old goodman ac quit working over the weekend. Had a friend that knows a little about ac look at it. He said that the run capacitor for the compressor was bad. The one that was in there was rated at 35 micro farads. He put in a 45 micro farad one and said that there would not be a problem. The system runs now but the different size capacitor has me concerned. Will this cause a problem or not? Thanks, 45 is too big. Rule of thumb is "within 10%", thus in this case nothing but a 35 will do. If a capacitor is oversized, then too much voltage may develop across it, exceeding its voltage rating and causing premature failure. Also the start winding is not designed for the extra current that bigger capacitor will send through it. Richard Perry Given that most of them have a tolerance of 20% or more, your rule of thumb surprises me. Run capacitors typically have a tolerences that range from +/- 5% to (-6%+10%). I don't know where you got your information. All of the run capacitors in my stock are either +/- 5% or +/- 6%. OTOH, this has what to do with the correct size of the replacement capacitor? Richard Perry |
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"CJT" wrote in message ... RP wrote: "GigDaddy" wrote in message ... My 9 year old goodman ac quit working over the weekend. Had a friend that knows a little about ac look at it. He said that the run capacitor for the compressor was bad. The one that was in there was rated at 35 micro farads. He put in a 45 micro farad one and said that there would not be a problem. The system runs now but the different size capacitor has me concerned. Will this cause a problem or not? Thanks, 45 is too big. Rule of thumb is "within 10%", thus in this case nothing but a 35 will do. If a capacitor is oversized, then too much voltage may develop across it, exceeding its voltage rating and causing premature failure. Also the start winding is not designed for the extra current that bigger capacitor will send through it. Richard Perry Given that most of them have a tolerance of 20% or more, your rule of thumb surprises me. Run capacitors typically have a tolerences that range from +/- 5% to (-6%+10%). I don't know where you got your information. All of the run capacitors in my stock are either +/- 5% or +/- 6%. OTOH, this has what to do with the correct size of the replacement capacitor? Richard Perry Perhaps +/- 10% is more common than +/-20% as I earlier asserted: http://www.newark.com/product-detail...alog/7248.html http://www.newark.com/product-detail...alog/7154.html What it has to do with sizing is that it shows motors must tolerate a range of values. -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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"CJT" wrote in message ... RP wrote: "CJT" wrote in message ... RP wrote: "GigDaddy" wrote in message m... My 9 year old goodman ac quit working over the weekend. Had a friend that knows a little about ac look at it. He said that the run capacitor for the compressor was bad. The one that was in there was rated at 35 micro farads. He put in a 45 micro farad one and said that there would not be a problem. The system runs now but the different size capacitor has me concerned. Will this cause a problem or not? Thanks, 45 is too big. Rule of thumb is "within 10%", thus in this case nothing but a 35 will do. If a capacitor is oversized, then too much voltage may develop across it, exceeding its voltage rating and causing premature failure. Also the start winding is not designed for the extra current that bigger capacitor will send through it. Richard Perry Given that most of them have a tolerance of 20% or more, your rule of thumb surprises me. Run capacitors typically have a tolerences that range from +/- 5% to (-6%+10%). I don't know where you got your information. All of the run capacitors in my stock are either +/- 5% or +/- 6%. OTOH, this has what to do with the correct size of the replacement capacitor? Richard Perry Perhaps +/- 10% is more common than +/-20% as I earlier asserted: http://www.newark.com/product-detail...alog/7248.html http://www.newark.com/product-detail...alog/7154.html What it has to do with sizing is that it shows motors must tolerate a range of values. If you oversize the capacitor by 10% of the *rated* capacitance (suppose you are replacing a 50 mfd with a 55 mfd) then at most, because of the 10% tolerance, you are going to have 60.5 *actual* mfd installed where a 50 mfd is called for. That's roughly 20% oversized. Thus a 20% *actual* increase in capacitance is the most that you can oversize the capacitor above what is recommended for the application. IOW, because of the 10% tolerance you can only oversize by 10% of the rated capacitance, which introduces a possible 20% oversize. If you exceed this, then warranty is voided, and for good reason, the motor windings will overheat. The voltage developed across the capacitor will also be excessive (in most cases), causing the capacitor to short prematurely, perhaps causing main winding failure. If OTOH the tolerance of the replacement capactor is 5%, then obviously you can get away with a 15% increase in rated capactance, since you would then still be at most 20% over *actually*. It's best to go back with the correct capacitor, however. If you *must* go up in size, then check the running voltage across the capacator before leaving it in the system. If the actual voltage reading is below the capacitor's rated voltage, then you're good to go. Typically a 440 volt replacement capacitor will cover the increase in voltage that will be developed with higher mfd. Upsizing a run capactor, though allowable when the above guidelines are met, is no substitute for maintaining the correct truck stock. IOW, there is generally no good excuse for doing this. It's intended as more of an emergency measure. Richard Perry |
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If it were my unit, I'd replace it with the correct cap. At 45, the
one you have is about 30% too large, which is quite a bit. That cap is optimized to produce the correct amount of phase shift when the motor is running. With the oversize cap, it will mean that the motor will not be operating as efficiently as it should. And since an AC unit consumes a lot of power and efficiency is a top concern, I would want mine running at peak efficiency. Also, if it's not operating at peak efficiency, it will likely be generating more heat, which over time, could lead to premature failure. |
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