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Ajju December 27th 05 10:44 PM

Power from ceiling light
 
I''m a tru newbie to electrical wiring so please humor me here...I have
an RJ45 cable hanging from the hallway ceiling on the main floor of my
house (it's the center of the house and will cover the entire house
with a wireless acess point signal). Problem is...when the wiring was
run i forgot to put a power receptacle in the ceiling for the wireless
router. There is however, a hallway ceiling light about 2 ft away from
the access point,,,can I tap into this light to get power for the
access point? If so, how would I go about doing it?

thanks a bunch
Newbie,
Ajju


RBM December 27th 05 11:10 PM

Power from ceiling light
 
There may only be power at the light when it is turned on. If you take down
the fixture and find more than two wires in the ceiling box, it is possible
you have a feed in the box, which could be tapped for an outlet.


"Ajju" wrote in message
oups.com...
I''m a tru newbie to electrical wiring so please humor me here...I have
an RJ45 cable hanging from the hallway ceiling on the main floor of my
house (it's the center of the house and will cover the entire house
with a wireless acess point signal). Problem is...when the wiring was
run i forgot to put a power receptacle in the ceiling for the wireless
router. There is however, a hallway ceiling light about 2 ft away from
the access point,,,can I tap into this light to get power for the
access point? If so, how would I go about doing it?

thanks a bunch
Newbie,
Ajju




Colbyt December 27th 05 11:15 PM

Power from ceiling light
 

"RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message
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"Ajju" wrote in message
oups.com...
I''m a tru newbie to electrical wiring so please humor me here...I have
an RJ45 cable hanging from the hallway ceiling on the main floor of my
house (it's the center of the house and will cover the entire house
with a wireless acess point signal). Problem is...when the wiring was
run i forgot to put a power receptacle in the ceiling for the wireless
router. There is however, a hallway ceiling light about 2 ft away from
the access point,,,can I tap into this light to get power for the
access point? If so, how would I go about doing it?

thanks a bunch
Newbie,
Ajju


There may only be power at the light when it is turned on. If you take

down
the fixture and find more than two wires in the ceiling box, it is

possible
you have a feed in the box, which could be tapped for an outlet.


But where are you going to install the duplex receptable. And I have never
been in a house with a power supply hanging from the ceiling? Nor a router
either for that matter.





RBM December 27th 05 11:20 PM

Power from ceiling light
 
There's a first time for everything. If he's got enough LED's on the WAP he
could just swap it for the fixture


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"Ajju" wrote in message
oups.com...
I''m a tru newbie to electrical wiring so please humor me here...I have
an RJ45 cable hanging from the hallway ceiling on the main floor of my
house (it's the center of the house and will cover the entire house
with a wireless acess point signal). Problem is...when the wiring was
run i forgot to put a power receptacle in the ceiling for the wireless
router. There is however, a hallway ceiling light about 2 ft away from
the access point,,,can I tap into this light to get power for the
access point? If so, how would I go about doing it?

thanks a bunch
Newbie,
Ajju


There may only be power at the light when it is turned on. If you take

down
the fixture and find more than two wires in the ceiling box, it is

possible
you have a feed in the box, which could be tapped for an outlet.


But where are you going to install the duplex receptable. And I have
never
been in a house with a power supply hanging from the ceiling? Nor a
router
either for that matter.







RBM December 27th 05 11:45 PM

Power from ceiling light
 
I think the best solution, if you haven't already purchased your WAP is to
get one with (POE) as they don't require a plug in transformer


"Ajju" wrote in message
oups.com...
I''m a tru newbie to electrical wiring so please humor me here...I have
an RJ45 cable hanging from the hallway ceiling on the main floor of my
house (it's the center of the house and will cover the entire house
with a wireless acess point signal). Problem is...when the wiring was
run i forgot to put a power receptacle in the ceiling for the wireless
router. There is however, a hallway ceiling light about 2 ft away from
the access point,,,can I tap into this light to get power for the
access point? If so, how would I go about doing it?

thanks a bunch
Newbie,
Ajju




Ajju December 28th 05 12:18 AM

Power from ceiling light
 
Well, the hole in the ceiling where the RJ45 is coming from can be
slightly expanded and the receptacle can be placed hidden in the
ceiling. The access point will cover the whole when mounted...The
access point hanging from the ceiling is a first but it's the best
place for full coverage.


Ajju December 28th 05 12:20 AM

Power from ceiling light
 
I actually looked for a POE adapter for my WAP but there isn't one
available for my model. I like the WAP i have and would rather try and
get power for it than get a new WAP.


Ajju December 28th 05 12:21 AM

Power from ceiling light
 
Thanks! I'll take a look and see what i find...

A.


Tony Hwang December 28th 05 12:31 AM

Power from ceiling light
 
Ajju wrote:

I''m a tru newbie to electrical wiring so please humor me here...I have
an RJ45 cable hanging from the hallway ceiling on the main floor of my
house (it's the center of the house and will cover the entire house
with a wireless acess point signal). Problem is...when the wiring was
run i forgot to put a power receptacle in the ceiling for the wireless
router. There is however, a hallway ceiling light about 2 ft away from
the access point,,,can I tap into this light to get power for the
access point? If so, how would I go about doing it?

thanks a bunch
Newbie,
Ajju

Hi,
First, you better hope you can tap a constant power from that ceiling
fixture. It depends how it is wired. Or you have to keep the fixture
switched on all the time. Or you can modifiy the wiring bypassing the
switch. But it depends whether you need the light or not. There are many
possibilities. There is a way where there is a will. Nothing is impossible.
Good luck and don't get zapped.
Tony

Skyhawk December 28th 05 12:34 AM

Power from ceiling light
 
at the ceiling... might be difficult to troubleshoot, if there is a
need
to work on the device in winter.


Brian V December 28th 05 02:57 AM

Power from ceiling light
 

"Ajju" wrote in message
oups.com...
I''m a tru newbie to electrical wiring so please humor me here...I have
an RJ45 cable hanging from the hallway ceiling on the main floor of my
house (it's the center of the house and will cover the entire house
with a wireless acess point signal). Problem is...when the wiring was
run i forgot to put a power receptacle in the ceiling for the wireless
router. There is however, a hallway ceiling light about 2 ft away from
the access point,,,can I tap into this light to get power for the
access point? If so, how would I go about doing it?

thanks a bunch
Newbie,
Ajju


Why not just get a PoE (power over ethernet) access point? All the Cisco
ones accept PoE...



philkryder December 28th 05 03:00 AM

Power from ceiling light
 
should work just fine - And when your ISP asks you to "recycle the
access point" you can just hit the switch.

Don't forget that there are "radio activated" outlets.

You could (if needed) bypass the on-off switch so that the new
recepticle is "always on".
Then plug the ceiling light into the new recepticle through one of the
wireless adapters.

This would give you:
1) Continuous to the WAP
2) switchable ceiling light

good luck!
Phil


buffalobill December 28th 05 08:30 AM

Power from ceiling light
 
see also:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/electrical-wiring/part1/


Bill Kearney December 28th 05 10:46 AM

Power from ceiling light
 
I''m a tru newbie to electrical wiring so please humor me here...I have
an RJ45 cable hanging from the hallway ceiling on the main floor of my
house (it's the center of the house and will cover the entire house
with a wireless acess point signal). Problem is...when the wiring was
run i forgot to put a power receptacle in the ceiling for the wireless
router. There is however, a hallway ceiling light about 2 ft away from
the access point,,,can I tap into this light to get power for the
access point? If so, how would I go about doing it?


Use Power-Over-Ethernet instead. That way you supply power to the access
point over the Cat-5 cable instead. Many Wifi access points support POE but
you'd do well to check before you buy. Don't bother trying to stuff the
power supply wall wart up into the ceiling.


Daremo December 29th 05 03:40 AM

Power from ceiling light
 
You'd have to have a router/switch that sends POE, not just every cheapo
router will send the power over the cable.

Daremo


"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
t...
I''m a tru newbie to electrical wiring so please humor me here...I have
an RJ45 cable hanging from the hallway ceiling on the main floor of my
house (it's the center of the house and will cover the entire house
with a wireless acess point signal). Problem is...when the wiring was
run i forgot to put a power receptacle in the ceiling for the wireless
router. There is however, a hallway ceiling light about 2 ft away from
the access point,,,can I tap into this light to get power for the
access point? If so, how would I go about doing it?


Use Power-Over-Ethernet instead. That way you supply power to the access
point over the Cat-5 cable instead. Many Wifi access points support POE
but
you'd do well to check before you buy. Don't bother trying to stuff the
power supply wall wart up into the ceiling.




Brian V December 29th 05 05:00 AM

Power from ceiling light
 

"Daremo" wrote in message
...
You'd have to have a router/switch that sends POE, not just every cheapo
router will send the power over the cable.

Daremo


"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
t...
I''m a tru newbie to electrical wiring so please humor me here...I have
an RJ45 cable hanging from the hallway ceiling on the main floor of my
house (it's the center of the house and will cover the entire house
with a wireless acess point signal). Problem is...when the wiring was
run i forgot to put a power receptacle in the ceiling for the wireless
router. There is however, a hallway ceiling light about 2 ft away from
the access point,,,can I tap into this light to get power for the
access point? If so, how would I go about doing it?


Use Power-Over-Ethernet instead. That way you supply power to the access
point over the Cat-5 cable instead. Many Wifi access points support POE
but
you'd do well to check before you buy. Don't bother trying to stuff the
power supply wall wart up into the ceiling.



Daremo,

You do NOT need a PoE switch or router....those are typically used in a
comercial environment for mass quantities of PoE devices (ie phones, ap's
etc). For a single installation like this you would use a power injector,
available from many manufacturers including Linksys and Netgear. Heck, you
could even make your own!

-Brian



Mark Lloyd December 29th 05 04:47 PM

Power from ceiling light
 
On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 00:00:47 -0500, "Brian V"
wrote:


"Daremo" wrote in message
. ..
You'd have to have a router/switch that sends POE, not just every cheapo
router will send the power over the cable.

Daremo


"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
t...
I''m a tru newbie to electrical wiring so please humor me here...I have
an RJ45 cable hanging from the hallway ceiling on the main floor of my
house (it's the center of the house and will cover the entire house
with a wireless acess point signal). Problem is...when the wiring was
run i forgot to put a power receptacle in the ceiling for the wireless
router. There is however, a hallway ceiling light about 2 ft away from
the access point,,,can I tap into this light to get power for the
access point? If so, how would I go about doing it?

Use Power-Over-Ethernet instead. That way you supply power to the access
point over the Cat-5 cable instead. Many Wifi access points support POE
but
you'd do well to check before you buy. Don't bother trying to stuff the
power supply wall wart up into the ceiling.



Daremo,

You do NOT need a PoE switch or router....those are typically used in a
comercial environment for mass quantities of PoE devices (ie phones, ap's
etc). For a single installation like this you would use a power injector,
available from many manufacturers including Linksys and Netgear. Heck, you
could even make your own!

-Brian


http://www.demarctech.com/products/r...-injector.html

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