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Lightning protection AND putting a receptacle on UPS
"Ignoramus10397" wrote in message .. . We bought an expensive TV. Our house is on top of a little hill, but still the tallest in the area, and was hit by lighting 3 years ago: http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/lightning/ I want to redo some things in the house so that some things are done better. Specifically: 1. Replace existing APC 1400 VA UPS that the "consumer electronics" including the TV and various audio/video things is on, with an APC 2200. 2. Since the 2200 UPS is too big to hide it near the TV, and too ugly (I bought a few military surplus used ones) and unsightly, we want to put it in the basement below the TV area and route the circuit through it. That is, the UPS would be in series with that receptacle. Is it safe to wire a receptacle to be on a UPS 100% of the time? 3. I want to install surge protection not only on the incoming power line (which the APC 2200 should take care of), but also on the "dish" cable. What kinds of options do I have? 4. Install a proper lightning rod. I already have a copper rod beaten into the ground. Can I connect my lightning rod to it? Or do I need a separate grounding rod? i For lightning protection your looking for UL-96a. For insurance you will need to have the installation inspected and receive a "Master Label". Lightning protection is not rocket science. But it is certainly not running an extension cord out to your Christmas yard lights either. You can buy the parts from several manufactures. HINT..... your going to need more than one ground rod. Lightning protection is a sacrificial path to ground. I can guarantee you even if you have a Master Label on the system if your house gets hit your going to have a lot more damage than a busted TV. I worked on a house in Prescott Valley that got hit. We tore every sheet of drywall off and all of the stucco. Replaced every piece of wiring and plumbing. Not much of a fire, just a lot of black lines on the stucco and drywall. Thank god they were not home. Every finial on the roof was gone and all of the down leads were zebra marks on the finish of the home. Yep on a hill out by itself. A whole house surge protection device in the electrical service panel will, HELP....... Please check the SOARS book on grounding at your public library. Surge protection per the IEEE is done in zones. You must have 2 of the three zones covered/overlapped for "protection" . Third zone is the utility and their concept of protection is nothing that will do you any good. Proper grounding of your dish and the underground cable feeding your home will, HELP...... This does not mean driving a ground rod out there. Unless you follow the "supplemental grounding" in the NEC. Ever wonder why they tell you stand with your feet together during a lightning storm? Ain't no guarantees that after you install all of this equipment that it will even help. Each site is different. Please consult local pros for advice before you start funding the bush economy. |
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The Soares book is an excellent source of translating code
requirements into useful examples. That is grounding for human protection. Grounding for transient protection must enhance that system. Soares is about human safety. Here, we are discussing the same system enhanced for transistor safety. Every incoming wire must connect to the same earth ground. That is now required for human safety - including a 20 foot or less wire connection. For example cable and dish wires should be earthed to same AC electric earth ground before entering building. Neither requires a surge protector. Surge protector is only a temporary connection to earth. But both wires are connected to earth by a dedicated wire. Therefore protector would do little more. How each utility connects to earth include things not required by NEC nor in that Soares book. For example, earthing wire must remain separated from all other wires. Wires must have no sharp bends, no splices, meet only at a common point. Wires should be 'less than 10 feet' which is beyond what is required by code. Every foot shorter means increased protection. Geology is an important part of protection analysis. Some locations can be sufficiently earthed with only a single ground rod. Others require extensive earthing to be equivalent. In your case, an AC controller should probably be mounted on equipotential earth - previous references to a halo ground. If one needs better protection, then one starts by enhancing the earthing system. That is often a largest weakness in any protection system. That is where bucks can often return more value - which is why bucks spent on plug-in protectors would be better spent first on enhancing the earthing system. If lightning is a major threat, then lightning rods are also part of the protection system. What determines lightning rod effectiveness? Earthing. How those lightning rods do and do not connect to the building earthing system is also important - part of the art. Ignoramus32515 wrote: Thanks SQLit. I do indeed want to avoid wasting money. I think that there is a cost/benefit ratio at work here and spending thousands of $$, to protect equipment worth thousands of $$s, against an unlikely event, does not make sense. So... I do not need protection against direct lightning strike that blows up all wiring, I rather want to be protected against lower power, but more frequent events such as the one that already happened near my house 3 years ago. I will use cheap used APC 2200 UPSes for the expensive stuff. I may use a whole house protector also. You made an excellent point on grounding the dish. I will also try to use some sort of surge protection on the TV cables. |
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This picture of a fax machine protection may also
demonstrate the protection. This picture has one problem. Phone line protector uses water pipe. Pipes are typically too long, have solder joints, etc. All contribute to too much impedance. IOW if that water pipe is too long, sharp turns, etc, then the surge may just enter on telephone line, pass through fax, then get earth ground from AC electric. Just another example of protection from common mode transients: http://www.epri-peac.com/tutorials/sol01tut.html Ignoramus32515 wrote: Thanks Tom. I asked you in another post to describe just what is the exact scenario for a common mode surge that an ordinary UPS cannot properly take care of. I am very interested to find out. |
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"Ignoramus32515
So... I do not need protection against direct lightning strike that blows up all wiring, I rather want to be protected against lower power, but more frequent events such as the one that already happened near my house 3 years ago. I will use cheap used APC 2200 UPSes for the expensive stuff. I may use a whole house protector also. " Since that is still your belief, I think we should all just give up on you, as you still obviously haven't understood anything that's been said. Go put those UPS's on your furnace and TV and make yourself happy! |
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