wrote in message ups.com...
Your liberal banter is very entertaining! Do you actually believe that
paying down the debt by taxing the rich will make the lives of the poor
any better? And your article fails to mention the RECORD GDP. The
national debt grows every year, just as I pay more taxes every year,
because my income grows. Its how things work.

And your "so what" attitude is precisely what will drive this nation
into eventual bankruptcy. Our national debt is approaching EIGHT
TRILLION DOLLARS, and Americans are already working three
hours of every 8-hour workday just to pay INTEREST on this debt.

Read the article I cited in my first response. We're impoverishing
ourselves and our grandkids.

The reason the "gap" is growing is because the economy is booming.

It's "booming" with **** service sector jobs. Real wages are and
have been on the decline.

Those with investments, such as owning a home, prosper, those will
nothing stay poor. Bush's idea is an "ownership society", which at
least addresses the issue.

So you'll need to explain the record number of home foreclosures
and personal bankruptcies since Bush's "home ownership" ruse.
Personal wealth isn't increasing; mortgage lending standards are
simply being thrown out the window to give the illusion of more
home ownership. The fact is, as interest rates edge up, most of
these people are going to lose "their" homes.

wrote in message
oups.com...
Maybe you should have been a computer programmer instead? They've been
telling you for 30 years that manufacturing jobs were on their way out,
so why haven't you moved into something else? I do something completely
different that what I did 10 years ago. If you don't adapt to the
environment, you wither awa

I hope he's NOT a computer progammer. If so he has my sympathies since
computer programming jobs went to India, the Philippines & Ireland a coupla
years ago.

Liz

"Jim Yanik" . wrote in message
.. .

A quick thinking co-pilot. (and a rich father with a high profile)

This comes from someone IGNORANT of military pilot training.

I admit to being ignorant of all things military. (And I also admit to
being proud of that fact.)


Or graduate from YALE?



A rich father with a high profile.

It must be horrible to be such a hater.It blinds you.

Well, there I have to disagree with you. I just turned 63, and must admit
that in all of those years I've never hated anyone. In fact, I really can't
appreciate what the word means.

Liz

"Liz" wrote in message ...

wrote in message
oups.com...
Maybe you should have been a computer programmer instead? They've been
telling you for 30 years that manufacturing jobs were on their way out,
so why haven't you moved into something else? I do something completely
different that what I did 10 years ago. If you don't adapt to the
environment, you wither awa

I hope he's NOT a computer progammer. If so he has my sympathies since
computer programming jobs went to India, the Philippines & Ireland a coupla
years ago.

Are you kidding? Companies are outsourcing $8/hour phone
support jobs to India, citing "legacy costs" (health insurance etc)
as an excuse. Absolutely outrageous.

The mask has finally been ripped off America's shareholders to
reveal the greedy, evil beast underneath. It is the Evil Empire.

"Jim Yanik" . wrote in message
.. .
wrote in
oups.com:

We haven't been attacked again and I have plenty of gas for my car,
albeit not cheap gas. At least things are getting done, unlike the Dems
just raising taxes with no feasible plan to use the funds. Any party
that has a main strategy of "getting the votes of the angry poor by
sticking it to the rich" has no place in power. Let them come up with
some ideas rather than criticisms and maybe they'll get a chance



ALL fingers should not be pointed at Bush;

"The Blame Game";
http://nationalreview.com/lowry/lowry200509131417.asp

I won't open vagrant links, but I will agree with you....when history
records the events of 8/28 thru 9/2/05 there will be fingers pointed in many
directions, not just at Washington, D.C.

Liz

"Peter" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Liz" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
Maybe you should have been a computer programmer instead? They've been
telling you for 30 years that manufacturing jobs were on their way out,
so why haven't you moved into something else? I do something completely
different that what I did 10 years ago. If you don't adapt to the
environment, you wither awa

I hope he's NOT a computer progammer. If so he has my sympathies since
computer programming jobs went to India, the Philippines & Ireland a
coupla
years ago.

Are you kidding?

No. I don't kid about outsourcing. It's an American disgrace.

Liz

Liz wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
Maybe you should have been a computer programmer instead? They've been
telling you for 30 years that manufacturing jobs were on their way out,
so why haven't you moved into something else? I do something completely
different that what I did 10 years ago. If you don't adapt to the
environment, you wither awa

I hope he's NOT a computer progammer. If so he has my sympathies since
computer programming jobs went to India, the Philippines & Ireland a coupla
years ago.

Liz


Another uninformed liberal (sigh). Unlike your "manufacturing" jobs,
computer programmers have quantifiable skills. If you are a REALLY bad
programmer, you may lose your job to outsourcing. But there are a lot
more jobs than there are good programmers. I know many programmers,
almost none of them I would call "good", and most of them make a lot
more than you can make working a manufacturing job. In fact, to me most
of them are patently incompetent.

Again, if you are bad at your job, you have no reason to believe you
can keep doing it. Thats what's wrong with the manufacturing union
model; the concept that everyone is the same and worth equal pay for
the same job is simply anti-competitive.

Liz wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
Maybe you should have been a computer programmer instead? They've been
telling you for 30 years that manufacturing jobs were on their way out,
so why haven't you moved into something else? I do something completely
different that what I did 10 years ago. If you don't adapt to the
environment, you wither awa

I hope he's NOT a computer progammer. If so he has my sympathies since
computer programming jobs went to India, the Philippines & Ireland a coupla
years ago.

Liz


Another uninformed liberal (sigh). Unlike your "manufacturing" jobs,
computer programmers have quantifiable skills. If you are a REALLY bad
programmer, you may lose your job to outsourcing. But there are a lot
more jobs than there are good programmers. I know many programmers,
almost none of them I would call "good", and most of them make a lot
more than you can make working a manufacturing job. In fact, to me most
of them are patently incompetent.

Again, if you are bad at your job, you have no reason to believe you
can keep doing it. Thats what's wrong with the manufacturing union
model; the concept that everyone is the same and worth equal pay for
the same job is simply anti-competitive.

Liz wrote:
wrote in message
I hope he's NOT a computer progammer. If so he has my sympathies since
computer programming jobs went to India, the Philippines & Ireland a
coupla
years ago.

Liz


wrote in message
oups.com...

Another uninformed liberal (sigh). Unlike your "manufacturing" jobs,
computer programmers have quantifiable skills. If you are a REALLY bad
programmer, you may lose your job to outsourcing. But there are a lot
more jobs than there are good programmers. I know many programmers,
almost none of them I would call "good", and most of them make a lot
more than you can make working a manufacturing job. In fact, to me most
of them are patently incompetent.

Again, if you are bad at your job, you have no reason to believe you
can keep doing it. Thats what's wrong with the manufacturing union
model; the concept that everyone is the same and worth equal pay for
the same job is simply anti-competitive.

Oh, you are so wrong!

And what makes you think I'm involved in a "manufacturing" job? I was
sympathizing with the OP, not discussing my own occupation (in which I
excel, BTW).

Liz

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:29:02 +0000, Peter wrote:

Cute. I'll check back with you in another 26 months to see how you feel
when your worst fears come true. G

Best advice is to pray every day that his evil is kept in check.

Oh yeah, that will help a lot. You're a double-dipper at the Stupid Pot,
huh? Ignorant *and* a holy-roller all in one package.

You don't know what evil is.

--
If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
Linux Registered User #327951

Well, you're wrong about outsourcing of technology jobs. Paying an
incompetent programmer 50K per year is not productive for companies. If
a company needs 300 programmers for a project that doesn't require
superior design skills, the cost of finding 300 competent programmers
is astronomical. Its not like finding a guy to hammer stone or to weld
a joint. You have to fly guys in. You have to spend 100s of hours
interviewing. It takes months to get them acclaimated. You have to pay
top dollar. Moving costs. Its too much.

Good programming jobs stay here. Its all about being worth the going
rate of pay. Manufacturing jobs are being moved out because the cost of
an employee to do a job that anyone can do is too high. Would you pay
someone $300. to clean your house? (depends on the size of your house,
I guess). If thats the going rate, you get an illegal or you do it
yourself. Everything has a value. When the cost becomes greater than
the value you have to figure out something else.

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:55:23 +0000, Yenc-Post 2002 wrote:

"Pop" wrote in news:pOSdnRG3YsfkO7neRVn-
:

OBVIOUSLY OT AND NOT WORTH READING. POOR FANATICS JUST GOTTA BE
BLAIMING ALL THE TIME; THEY SHOULD GET A LIFE.




Hi, GW. You need to be impeached.

....and then you woke up.

--
Keith

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:11:10 -0400, Liz wrote:



I don't know if I agree with the bitch part, but he's definitely
subpar when it comes to the brain department.

Liz



"Jim Yanik" . wrote in message
.. .

What do you think it takes to fly fighter jets? (to pass military jet
fighter pilot school?)

A quick thinking co-pilot. (and a rich father with a high profile)

Moron. The F102 was a single-seat interceptor. In case you can't figure
that sentence out... There is *NO* co-pilot, dummy!

Or graduate from YALE?

A rich father with a high profile.

What was Al Gore's excuse? Yeah, I know:

"Throughout most of my life, I raised tobacco. I want you to know that
with my own hands, all of my life, I put it in the plant beds and
transferred it. I've hoed it. I've dug in it. I've sprayed it, I've
chopped it, I've shredded it, spiked it, put it in the barn and
stripped it and sold it."

....in Washington DC.

--
Keith

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:32:51 -0400, Liz wrote:


"Jim Yanik" . wrote in message
.. .

A quick thinking co-pilot. (and a rich father with a high profile)

This comes from someone IGNORANT of military pilot training.

I admit to being ignorant of all things military. (And I also admit to
being proud of that fact.)

You'e proud to be ignorant. Isn't that jsut so "liberal" of you.



Or graduate from YALE?



A rich father with a high profile.

It must be horrible to be such a hater.It blinds you.

Well, there I have to disagree with you. I just turned 63, and must admit
that in all of those years I've never hated anyone. In fact, I really can't
appreciate what the word means.

Bull****. You're own words make you a liar. ...and old hag of a liar, at
that.

--
Keith

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:12:23 +0000, Dr. Hardcrab wrote:


"Dan C" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:36:39 -0400, Liz wrote:

Main Entry: con·tra·dic·tion
Pronunciation: "kän-tr&-'dik-sh&n
Function: noun

Congratulations on your possession of a dictionary. But why are you
posting the above entry? I did not use the word "contradiction" in my
original post.

You didn't use the word, but you sure made a statement that fits:

"But I'm intelligent enough to know that Hillary will be a great
president."

See? You're even dumber than she is. STFU.

Are my posts coming through in English?

Sure, but only the literate can read what's in front of their nose.

--
Keith

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:31:57 +0000, Dr. Hardcrab wrote:


"Liz" wrote in message
...

"Dan C" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:36:39 -0400, Liz wrote:

Main Entry: con·tra·dic·tion
Pronunciation: "kän-tr&-'dik-sh&n
Function: noun

Congratulations on your possession of a dictionary. But why are you
posting the above entry? I did not use the word "contradiction" in my
original post.

You didn't use the word, but you sure made a statement that fits:

"But I'm intelligent enough to know that Hillary will be a great
president."

See? You're even dumber than she is. STFU.

Cute. I'll check back with you in another 26 months to see how you feel
when your worst fears come true. G

My penis will fall off???

Worse. Liz will grow one.

--
Keith

Jim Yanik wrote:

"Liz" wrote in news:goudnRRJW4Jdt7veRVn-
:


"barbarow" wrote in message
news:B72Ve.983$YI6.724@trnddc05...

Do you honestly believe we would be in better shape if Gore had won ?


We surely WILL be in better shape when Hillary wins!

Liz





I surely hope you're joking.
She'd sell anyone out to benefit herself.

Hi,
I am sure really sure she has at least more brain than Dubya.
Couldn't be worse, could it?
Tony

Tony Hwang wrote:
Jim Yanik wrote:

"Liz" wrote in news:goudnRRJW4Jdt7veRVn-
:


"barbarow" wrote in message
news:B72Ve.983$YI6.724@trnddc05...

Do you honestly believe we would be in better shape if Gore had won ?


We surely WILL be in better shape when Hillary wins!

Liz




I surely hope you're joking.
She'd sell anyone out to benefit herself.

Hi,
I am sure really sure she has at least more brain than Dubya.
Couldn't be worse, could it?
Tony

You haven't been paying any attention to her at all over the last 10 -
12 years, have you?



--
If you find a posting or message from myself offensive,
inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know
how to ignore a posting,complain to me and I will demonstrate.

Peter wrote:
wrote in message ups.com...
Your liberal banter is very entertaining! Do you actually believe that
paying down the debt by taxing the rich will make the lives of the poor
any better? And your article fails to mention the RECORD GDP. The
national debt grows every year, just as I pay more taxes every year,
because my income grows. Its how things work.

And your "so what" attitude is precisely what will drive this nation
into eventual bankruptcy. Our national debt is approaching EIGHT
TRILLION DOLLARS, and Americans are already working three
hours of every 8-hour workday just to pay INTEREST on this debt.

Read the article I cited in my first response. We're impoverishing
ourselves and our grandkids.

The reason the "gap" is growing is because the economy is booming.

It's "booming" with **** service sector jobs. Real wages are and
have been on the decline.

Those with investments, such as owning a home, prosper, those will
nothing stay poor. Bush's idea is an "ownership society", which at
least addresses the issue.

So you'll need to explain the record number of home foreclosures
and personal bankruptcies since Bush's "home ownership" ruse.
Personal wealth isn't increasing; mortgage lending standards are
simply being thrown out the window to give the illusion of more
home ownership. The fact is, as interest rates edge up, most of
these people are going to lose "their" homes.

I'd say such things are a function of people living beyond their means.
It's not anyone's fault except the person who took out a loan they
couldn't pay. People who bet that they will never be out of work are
sometimes wrong. People who can afford a 200K house routinely buy 350K
houses. Its not the goverment's fault. Its the fault of people who want
to own things that they can't afford.

wrote in message oups.com...

Peter wrote:
wrote in message ups.com...
Your liberal banter is very entertaining! Do you actually believe that
paying down the debt by taxing the rich will make the lives of the poor
any better? And your article fails to mention the RECORD GDP. The
national debt grows every year, just as I pay more taxes every year,
because my income grows. Its how things work.

And your "so what" attitude is precisely what will drive this nation
into eventual bankruptcy. Our national debt is approaching EIGHT
TRILLION DOLLARS, and Americans are already working three
hours of every 8-hour workday just to pay INTEREST on this debt.

Read the article I cited in my first response. We're impoverishing
ourselves and our grandkids.

The reason the "gap" is growing is because the economy is booming.

It's "booming" with **** service sector jobs. Real wages are and
have been on the decline.

Those with investments, such as owning a home, prosper, those will
nothing stay poor. Bush's idea is an "ownership society", which at
least addresses the issue.

So you'll need to explain the record number of home foreclosures
and personal bankruptcies since Bush's "home ownership" ruse.
Personal wealth isn't increasing; mortgage lending standards are
simply being thrown out the window to give the illusion of more
home ownership. The fact is, as interest rates edge up, most of
these people are going to lose "their" homes.

I'd say such things are a function of people living beyond their means.

Give us a break. In your wonderful Bush "boom economy", 55%
of American families are living from ****ing paycheck to paycheck.
Actually "living" is not the right word for it. Surviving or subsisting
are more accurate descriptions.

Credit card debt is at an all-time high, and savings are at an
all-time low. There's the bottom line on your "boom economy".

It's not anyone's fault except the person who took out a loan they
couldn't pay.

To the contrary, when lenders throw standards out the window
and start lending money to people who they know will likely be
unable to pay it back, they're as guilty as the borrowers. In fact
moreso, because it's simple human nature to try and live according
to (and often beyond) one's means. Just look at our current
federal government for a perfect example.

"Peter" wrote

The end result of this policy has been catastrophic. One-third of
manufacturing jobs have disappeared from many states, such as
Ohio and Pennsylvania, and been replaced with **** service sector
jobs. Personally, out of the 100 or so people I know, the number
who are making as much or more than they were 4 or 5 years ago
can be counted on one hand. Everyone else is making much less
(in many cases, one-third to one-half) what they were 5 years ago.

I mean no offence, but you must be hanging around a bunch of losers. I'm not
saying it's not possible to be making less, but why would they? If they are
in a field were their position is a dime-a-dozen, it's time to find a
different job, even if that means moving to a different town or even a
different state. Out of the hundreds of people I know, the only ones making
LESS than they were 4 or 5 years ago are the ones that have retired. The
other few are ones that worked at jobs that they were not very good at and
had to take a lesser paying job that they WERE good at.

BTW, I am just now making what I was FIFTEEN years ago. Back then I was a
programmer. I still don't regret getting out of that field......

"Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message news:S8TVe.12822$Hs6.12552@trnddc07...

"Peter" wrote

The end result of this policy has been catastrophic. One-third of
manufacturing jobs have disappeared from many states, such as
Ohio and Pennsylvania, and been replaced with **** service sector
jobs. Personally, out of the 100 or so people I know, the number
who are making as much or more than they were 4 or 5 years ago
can be counted on one hand. Everyone else is making much less
(in many cases, one-third to one-half) what they were 5 years ago.

I mean no offence, but you must be hanging around a bunch of losers. I'm not
saying it's not possible to be making less, but why would they? If they are
in a field were their position is a dime-a-dozen, it's time to find a
different job, even if that means moving to a different town or even a
different state. Out of the hundreds of people I know, the only ones making
LESS than they were 4 or 5 years ago are the ones that have retired. The
other few are ones that worked at jobs that they were not very good at and
had to take a lesser paying job that they WERE good at.

BTW, I am just now making what I was FIFTEEN years ago. Back then I was a
programmer. I still don't regret getting out of that field......

I'd love to take an informal poll in this newsgroup to see who
is making more, less or the same compared to 2000. I think
it would be interesting.

"Dr. Hardcrab" wrote in message
news:S8TVe.12822$Hs6.12552@trnddc07...

"Peter" wrote

The end result of this policy has been catastrophic. One-third of
manufacturing jobs have disappeared from many states, such as
Ohio and Pennsylvania, and been replaced with **** service sector
jobs. Personally, out of the 100 or so people I know, the number
who are making as much or more than they were 4 or 5 years ago
can be counted on one hand. Everyone else is making much less
(in many cases, one-third to one-half) what they were 5 years ago.

I mean no offence, but you must be hanging around a bunch of losers. I'm
not saying it's not possible to be making less, but why would they? If
they are in a field were their position is a dime-a-dozen, it's time to
find a different job, even if that means moving to a different town or
even a different state. Out of the hundreds of people I know, the only
ones making LESS than they were 4 or 5 years ago are the ones that have
retired. The other few are ones that worked at jobs that they were not
very good at and had to take a lesser paying job that they WERE good at.

BTW, I am just now making what I was FIFTEEN years ago. Back then I was a
programmer. I still don't regret getting out of that field......


In Florida the average annual income went down $7000 last year. Why? The
higher paying jobs left and now all there is left is the malls, the fast
foods, etc.. The only jobs that are left that pay are service type jobs and
not all people have the skills or talents for that.

"Peter" wrote in message
nk.net...

I'd love to take an informal poll in this newsgroup to see who
is making more, less or the same compared to 2000. I think
it would be interesting.

Me too, and I'll participate.

I happen to be in a field (medical transcription) in which maybe half of the
jobs have been outsourced, primarily to India. There is still plenty of
work left for us Americans; however, the rates have dropped by as much as
half in the past 5 years or so due to outsourcing to a country where people
can live comfortably on $100 a month. Thanks to software I've purchased
which increases my production, I personally have not noticed any decrease in
my hourly pay. My income is less, but that's because I choose not to work
as many hours as I once did. On the other hand, my son-in-law, who holds a
masters degree in Information Systems and started his own business seven
years ago, has seen his income cut by half thanks to outsourcing.

Liz

Dave Jefford wrote:



It's time for you to rethink again. Why trust the gods that destroy so many
lives and with hurricanes, earthquake and wars? Why gives monies to
the evil men that teaches murder, assassination?

My advice pray to yourself and your stomach.


You should pray to the god of decent grammar. While you wait for an
answer, take your advice and shove it up your ass.

"G Henslee" wrote in message
...
Dave Jefford wrote:



It's time for you to rethink again. Why trust the gods that destroy so
many
lives and with hurricanes, earthquake and wars? Why gives monies to the
evil men that teaches murder, assassination? My advice pray to yourself
and your stomach.


You should pray to the god of decent grammar. While you wait for an
answer, take your advice and shove it up your ass.

Hey you two! Get room....

;-]

Dr. Hardcrab wrote:
"G Henslee" wrote in message
...

Dave Jefford wrote:



It's time for you to rethink again. Why trust the gods that destroy so
many
lives and with hurricanes, earthquake and wars? Why gives monies to the
evil men that teaches murder, assassination? My advice pray to yourself
and your stomach.


You should pray to the god of decent grammar. While you wait for an
answer, take your advice and shove it up your ass.


Hey you two! Get room....

;-]



Ahh quit being so crabby.

Peter wrote:
wrote in message oups.com...

Peter wrote:
wrote in message ups.com...
Your liberal banter is very entertaining! Do you actually believe that
paying down the debt by taxing the rich will make the lives of the poor
any better? And your article fails to mention the RECORD GDP. The
national debt grows every year, just as I pay more taxes every year,
because my income grows. Its how things work.

And your "so what" attitude is precisely what will drive this nation
into eventual bankruptcy. Our national debt is approaching EIGHT
TRILLION DOLLARS, and Americans are already working three
hours of every 8-hour workday just to pay INTEREST on this debt.

Read the article I cited in my first response. We're impoverishing
ourselves and our grandkids.

The reason the "gap" is growing is because the economy is booming.

It's "booming" with **** service sector jobs. Real wages are and
have been on the decline.

Those with investments, such as owning a home, prosper, those will
nothing stay poor. Bush's idea is an "ownership society", which at
least addresses the issue.

So you'll need to explain the record number of home foreclosures
and personal bankruptcies since Bush's "home ownership" ruse.
Personal wealth isn't increasing; mortgage lending standards are
simply being thrown out the window to give the illusion of more
home ownership. The fact is, as interest rates edge up, most of
these people are going to lose "their" homes.

I'd say such things are a function of people living beyond their means.

Give us a break. In your wonderful Bush "boom economy", 55%
of American families are living from ****ing paycheck to paycheck.
Actually "living" is not the right word for it. Surviving or subsisting
are more accurate descriptions.

The problem with your complaint/analysis is that giving these "people"
a $300. tax cut is not going to change their plight. The economy would
certainly not be better under democratic rule; you'd just have more
hand-outs to poor people. At least now they're trying to find work. The
best chance for poor people is to create jobs, which you do by giving
people more money to spend.

When is the "middle class" going to figure out that you lose when you
try to take down your bosses? As a business owner, you raise my taxes
and I'm going to cut my costs. That means laying someone off. Hiring
part-time people instead of full-time. I'll be less generous with
raises. I'll get a health plan with lesser coverage. You complained
under Clinton that the "jobs" weren't good jobs. You just don't get it,
maybe because you just need to be angry with someone. Anyone.


Credit card debt is at an all-time high, and savings are at an
all-time low. There's the bottom line on your "boom economy".

It's not anyone's fault except the person who took out a loan they
couldn't pay.

To the contrary, when lenders throw standards out the window
and start lending money to people who they know will likely be
unable to pay it back, they're as guilty as the borrowers. In fact
moreso, because it's simple human nature to try and live according
to (and often beyond) one's means. Just look at our current
federal government for a perfect example.

Perhaps they are, but its the people who make the choice to overextend
themselves. People take drugs, don't blame the dealers. People borrow
too much, don't blame the banks for trying to make money. People buy
SUVs that get crappy gas milage, don't blame the automakers. People
have more kids than then can afford, don't blame sex-education. Blame
people. People are stupid. That you can write down. Some "people" in
this ****ty house with a broken down car on my way to work just put in
a $2000 stained glass door. Do you think they NEED that to live? No,
some woman "wanted" it. Stupid people. I'm sure they'll be filing for
bankruptcy (and making the taxpayers pay for their nice door) as soon
as the economy turns.

The mantra in the US seems to be "Carpe Diem". Those are the people
with the problems; the biggest whiners of all. Because they didn't plan
for their future. Too bad for them. I'm not responsible for paying for
their irresponsibility.

Dr. Hardcrab wrote:
"Peter" wrote in message
ink.net...

wrote in message
groups.com...

We haven't been attacked again and I have plenty of gas for my car,
albeit not cheap gas. At least things are getting done, unlike the Dems
just raising taxes with no feasible plan to use the funds. Any party
that has a main strategy of "getting the votes of the angry poor by
sticking it to the rich" has no place in power. Let them come up with
some ideas rather than criticisms and maybe they'll get a chance

Sticking it to the rich? Dear God almighty, I think you actually
believe that.

The largest transfers of wealth -- from the poor to the rich --
in the history of the world occurred under Reagan, and is now
occurring under Bush, with equally catastrophic consequences
for our economy:
http://www.counterpunch.org/freeman05302003.html



You people are so misguided!! Reagan and Bush made us poorer???!!! HMPH!!!
Bill Clinton do anything for me either!

I think I'm registered as a Republican, but when Clinton was in office
the freaking burger joints were paying signing bonuses. Something good
was going on.

A

Blame the media for our futility in War. Every time someone dies we
have to read about it on page 1. You don't win wars by pussy-footing on
eggshells. People are going to die. The vietnamese played the media to
"win", by putting their factories next to schools, knowing that public
sentiment from fat-assed liberals like you would be up in arms if a
child was killed. We killed children in Hiroshima to save thousands of
American lives. If you have to fight a war in the media you're dead
before you start.

The media killed a lot of people in Viet-nam. Just like they're killing
americans in Iraq by publicising the kidnappings and showing the tapes
and steering public sentiment against our troops.

Why should someone getting 52 weeks of unemployment insurance take a
lousy job at a burger joint? Now we make them work. Thats whats
different now. No more hand-outs. You don't have to lure people off of
unemployment with "signing bonuses", (which causes burgers to be more
expensive). Its good for everyone.

Coming from someone who posts profanity and has nothing even remotely
useful to say, I'm sure many will care what you think.

perhaps if democrats would do something other than complain someone
would pay attention to them? Its easy to find fault. The Republicans
win elections because they propose solutions. Maybe you don't like
their solutions. But all democrats do is take our money and squander it
on some inefficient program that has no chance at success. I doubt that
you believe that any of what you are complaining about would be better
under a different president. The government is inefficient. Thats why
you should be against higher federal taxes. They waste our money. That
goes for Republicans or Democrats. At least the republicans admit it.

Thats brilliant, Rusty. When the economy is booming teenagers, the
uneducated and those that can only work 14 hours a week get magically
elevated to paralegals and computer programmers.

Maybe the kids in CT get more allowance than they can make at burger
king in CT? Or maybe wealthy parents would rather that their kids not
work until 3AM at a place with a 32yo ex-con as the manager?

Get a clue.

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:29:02 GMT, "Peter" wrote:

If you want to talk about worst fears, if what I suspect about
Mr. Bush is true, civilization won't survive his presidency.

Best advice is to pray every day that his evil is kept in check.

It's time for you to rethink again. Why trust the gods that destroy so many
lives and with hurricanes, earthquake and wars? Why gives monies to
the evil men that teaches murder, assassination?

My advice pray to yourself and your stomach.

I think we've extablished who the educated one is between the two of us
Gussy. Who would listen to a foul-mouthed moron like you?