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Folks,
I am looking for the volume of concrete in a 60 and 80 lb bag. It seems
its only sold by weight and the quantity calculators online at either
sakrete or quikrete are PIA since you have to convert to "equivalent slab"
size. Someone has got to know the numbers -- looking for something like x
cuft / 60 lb bag etc

TIA

"Sam the Cat" wrote in message
...
Folks,
I am looking for the volume of concrete in a 60 and 80 lb bag. It
seems
its only sold by weight and the quantity calculators online at either
sakrete or quikrete are PIA since you have to convert to "equivalent
slab"
size. Someone has got to know the numbers -- looking for something like x
cuft / 60 lb bag etc


If memory serves, a 60 lb sack of Quikrete yields about 1/3 cu.ft.

In article , "Sam the Cat" wrote:
Folks,
I am looking for the volume of concrete in a 60 and 80 lb bag. It seems
its only sold by weight and the quantity calculators online at either
sakrete or quikrete are PIA since you have to convert to "equivalent slab"
size. Someone has got to know the numbers -- looking for something like x
cuft / 60 lb bag etc

Look at the spec data sheet
http://www.quikrete.com/Spec_Data/concrete_mix.pdf

YIELD
• An 80 lb (36.3 kg) bag yields approximately 0.60 cu ft (17 L)
• A 60 lb (27.2 kg) bag yields approximately 0.45 cu ft (12.7 L)
• A 40 lb (18.1 kg) bag yields approximately 0.30 cu ft (8.5 L)

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Doug

Thanks !


"Doug Miller" wrote in message
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In article , "Sam the Cat"
wrote:
Folks,
I am looking for the volume of concrete in a 60 and 80 lb bag. It
seems
its only sold by weight and the quantity calculators online at either
sakrete or quikrete are PIA since you have to convert to "equivalent
slab"
size. Someone has got to know the numbers -- looking for something like
x
cuft / 60 lb bag etc

Look at the spec data sheet
http://www.quikrete.com/Spec_Data/concrete_mix.pdf

YIELD
• An 80 lb (36.3 kg) bag yields approximately 0.60 cu ft (17 L)
• A 60 lb (27.2 kg) bag yields approximately 0.45 cu ft (12.7 L)
• A 40 lb (18.1 kg) bag yields approximately 0.30 cu ft (8.5 L)

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

http://www.sakretenw.com/products.html
"Sam the Cat" wrote in message
...
Folks,
I am looking for the volume of concrete in a 60 and 80 lb bag. It
seems
its only sold by weight and the quantity calculators online at either
sakrete or quikrete are PIA since you have to convert to "equivalent
slab"
size. Someone has got to know the numbers -- looking for something like x
cuft / 60 lb bag etc

TIA

Sam the Cat wrote:
Folks,
I am looking for the volume of concrete in a 60 and 80 lb bag. It seems
its only sold by weight and the quantity calculators online at either
sakrete or quikrete are PIA since you have to convert to "equivalent slab"
size. Someone has got to know the numbers -- looking for something like x
cuft / 60 lb bag etc

TIA


I have an 80lb bag of premix concrete in my garage that says 1 cu. ft.
on it. And based on use, I'd say it is right.

User Example wrote:
Sam the Cat wrote:

Folks,
I am looking for the volume of concrete in a 60 and 80 lb bag. It
seems
its only sold by weight and the quantity calculators online at either
sakrete or quikrete are PIA since you have to convert to "equivalent
slab"
size. Someone has got to know the numbers -- looking for something
like x
cuft / 60 lb bag etc

TIA


I have an 80lb bag of premix concrete in my garage that says 1 cu. ft.
on it. And based on use, I'd say it is right.

And you would be wrong. I have done about 600 replacements of
balcony decks on apartment complexes (2" of concrete on a
wooden substrate, each about 6'x8'). The first ones that we
did, I measured the cubic feet needed for the deck and bought
the appropriate amount of bags (marked 1 cubic foot). On the
first one we were 12 bags short. I recalculated and it came
out the same.

I returned to my concrete supplier (instead of home depot) and
bought identical weight bags of concrete (80 pound bags).
These, however, were marked .60 cubic feet. I did the
calculations again. The next deck had 1/2 bag leftover.

Now I use the .60 measurement and it comes out pretty close
every time, even when I buy the stuff at home depot that is
marked 1 cubic foot.

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

Robert Allison wrote:
User Example wrote:

Sam the Cat wrote:

Folks,
I am looking for the volume of concrete in a 60 and 80 lb bag.
It seems
its only sold by weight and the quantity calculators online at either
sakrete or quikrete are PIA since you have to convert to "equivalent
slab"
size. Someone has got to know the numbers -- looking for something
like x
cuft / 60 lb bag etc

TIA


I have an 80lb bag of premix concrete in my garage that says 1 cu. ft.
on it. And based on use, I'd say it is right.


And you would be wrong. I have done about 600 replacements of balcony
decks on apartment complexes (2" of concrete on a wooden substrate, each
about 6'x8'). The first ones that we did, I measured the cubic feet
needed for the deck and bought the appropriate amount of bags (marked 1
cubic foot). On the first one we were 12 bags short. I recalculated
and it came out the same.

I returned to my concrete supplier (instead of home depot) and bought
identical weight bags of concrete (80 pound bags). These, however, were
marked .60 cubic feet. I did the calculations again. The next deck had
1/2 bag leftover.

Now I use the .60 measurement and it comes out pretty close every time,
even when I buy the stuff at home depot that is marked 1 cubic foot.


No. I would be right. I made a 35" x 16" x 6" form and it took less
than two bags. Do the math. Not sure what you are using but you don't
get as much per bag.

Gary

No. I would be right. I made a 35" x 16" x 6" form and it took less
than two bags. Do the math. Not sure what you are using but you don't
get as much per bag.

Those 'cheapie' (60lb ?) $ 1.39bags at HD say 1/2 cu ft on them.

User Example wrote:
Robert Allison wrote:
User Example wrote:

I have an 80lb bag of premix concrete in my garage that says 1 cu. ft.
on it. And based on use, I'd say it is right.


And you would be wrong. I have done about 600 replacements of balcony
decks on apartment complexes (2" of concrete on a wooden substrate, each
about 6'x8'). The first ones that we did, I measured the cubic feet
needed for the deck and bought the appropriate amount of bags (marked 1
cubic foot). On the first one we were 12 bags short. I recalculated
and it came out the same.

I returned to my concrete supplier (instead of home depot) and bought
identical weight bags of concrete (80 pound bags). These, however, were
marked .60 cubic feet. I did the calculations again. The next deck had
1/2 bag leftover.

Now I use the .60 measurement and it comes out pretty close every time,
even when I buy the stuff at home depot that is marked 1 cubic foot.


No. I would be right. I made a 35" x 16" x 6" form and it took less
than two bags. Do the math. Not sure what you are using but you don't
get as much per bag.

Let's see, you did one little form, and Bob did 600 much larger
placements. So your one test outweighs his 600? Yeah, right.

The manufacturers' literature (all of them) indicate .6 CF.

They also state to add 6-9 pints (2.8-4.3 liters) of water. 1 liter =
2.2 pounds, use the high number weight of water = 4.3 x 2.2 = ~9.5
pounds

Your version has concrete weighing 90 pounds (80 pound bag, plus ten
pounds of water - and some of that water evaporates). That's some damn
light concrete! Real world concrete, as opposed to imaginary, weighs
in at ~150 PCF. Even lightweight concrete using flyash and other
much-lighter-than-usual aggregate weighs in over 100 PCF.

Let's check Bob's version:
2 bags @ 80# = 160#
2 x 4.3L water = 19#
totals to 180#
manufacturer's lit, .6 CF/bag x 2 = 1.2 CF
180#/1.2 CF = 150#/CF

His numbers check, yours don't.
Do the math.

R

RicodJour wrote:

User Example wrote:

Robert Allison wrote:

User Example wrote:

I have an 80lb bag of premix concrete in my garage that says 1 cu. ft.
on it. And based on use, I'd say it is right.


And you would be wrong. I have done about 600 replacements of balcony
decks on apartment complexes (2" of concrete on a wooden substrate, each
about 6'x8'). The first ones that we did, I measured the cubic feet
needed for the deck and bought the appropriate amount of bags (marked 1
cubic foot). On the first one we were 12 bags short. I recalculated
and it came out the same.

I returned to my concrete supplier (instead of home depot) and bought
identical weight bags of concrete (80 pound bags). These, however, were
marked .60 cubic feet. I did the calculations again. The next deck had
1/2 bag leftover.

Now I use the .60 measurement and it comes out pretty close every time,
even when I buy the stuff at home depot that is marked 1 cubic foot.


No. I would be right. I made a 35" x 16" x 6" form and it took less
than two bags. Do the math. Not sure what you are using but you don't
get as much per bag.


Let's see, you did one little form, and Bob did 600 much larger
placements. So your one test outweighs his 600? Yeah, right.

The manufacturers' literature (all of them) indicate .6 CF.

They also state to add 6-9 pints (2.8-4.3 liters) of water. 1 liter =
2.2 pounds, use the high number weight of water = 4.3 x 2.2 = ~9.5
pounds

Your version has concrete weighing 90 pounds (80 pound bag, plus ten
pounds of water - and some of that water evaporates). That's some damn
light concrete! Real world concrete, as opposed to imaginary, weighs
in at ~150 PCF. Even lightweight concrete using flyash and other
much-lighter-than-usual aggregate weighs in over 100 PCF.

Let's check Bob's version:
2 bags @ 80# = 160#
2 x 4.3L water = 19#
totals to 180#
manufacturer's lit, .6 CF/bag x 2 = 1.2 CF
180#/1.2 CF = 150#/CF

His numbers check, yours don't.
Do the math.

R


Exactly.

I hate bags of concrete. I love trucks full of concrete with
a pump truck.

We just poured a new slab today with a 36 meter pump truck and
16 trucks of concrete. Easier than one of those damn 6 x 8
decks. At one point we were doing 12 of those decks per day.
That took pallets and pallets of concrete mix, 4 halfyard
mixers, and a crew of 24. We placed that 128 yards of
concrete with 8 guys (not counting the truck drivers or pump
operators).

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

RicodJour wrote:
User Example wrote:

Robert Allison wrote:

User Example wrote:

I have an 80lb bag of premix concrete in my garage that says 1 cu. ft.
on it. And based on use, I'd say it is right.


And you would be wrong. I have done about 600 replacements of balcony
decks on apartment complexes (2" of concrete on a wooden substrate, each
about 6'x8'). The first ones that we did, I measured the cubic feet
needed for the deck and bought the appropriate amount of bags (marked 1
cubic foot). On the first one we were 12 bags short. I recalculated
and it came out the same.

I returned to my concrete supplier (instead of home depot) and bought
identical weight bags of concrete (80 pound bags). These, however, were
marked .60 cubic feet. I did the calculations again. The next deck had
1/2 bag leftover.

Now I use the .60 measurement and it comes out pretty close every time,
even when I buy the stuff at home depot that is marked 1 cubic foot.


No. I would be right. I made a 35" x 16" x 6" form and it took less
than two bags. Do the math. Not sure what you are using but you don't
get as much per bag.


Let's see, you did one little form, and Bob did 600 much larger
placements. So your one test outweighs his 600? Yeah, right.

The manufacturers' literature (all of them) indicate .6 CF.

They also state to add 6-9 pints (2.8-4.3 liters) of water. 1 liter =
2.2 pounds, use the high number weight of water = 4.3 x 2.2 = ~9.5
pounds

Your version has concrete weighing 90 pounds (80 pound bag, plus ten
pounds of water - and some of that water evaporates). That's some damn
light concrete! Real world concrete, as opposed to imaginary, weighs
in at ~150 PCF. Even lightweight concrete using flyash and other
much-lighter-than-usual aggregate weighs in over 100 PCF.

Let's check Bob's version:
2 bags @ 80# = 160#
2 x 4.3L water = 19#
totals to 180#
manufacturer's lit, .6 CF/bag x 2 = 1.2 CF
180#/1.2 CF = 150#/CF

His numbers check, yours don't.
Do the math.

R


Hey smart math boy. Why don't you take yourself down to the local Home
Depot and look on the blue 80lb bags of concrete and then tell me what
it says. If it doesn't say 1 cu. ft. then come on back here and tell me
about it. Otherwise, why don't you shut up? I've got the bag right out
in the garage and I can read what it says. And I poured it and I know
how much space it filled. I don't care who Bob is or what he is pouring
but unless he is using the same bags I did then you can't say he is
right and I am wrong. Maybe we are both right. Either way, you are a
fool for thinking you know it all.

Rudy wrote:
No. I would be right. I made a 35" x 16" x 6" form and it took less
than two bags. Do the math. Not sure what you are using but you don't
get as much per bag.


Those 'cheapie' (60lb ?) $ 1.39bags at HD say 1/2 cu ft on them.



Go to HD and look at the blue 80 lbs bags then report back to me.

User Example wrote:
RicodJour wrote:

Let's see, you did one little form, and Bob did 600 much larger
placements. So your one test outweighs his 600? Yeah, right.

The manufacturers' literature (all of them) indicate .6 CF.

They also state to add 6-9 pints (2.8-4.3 liters) of water. 1 liter =
2.2 pounds, use the high number weight of water = 4.3 x 2.2 = ~9.5
pounds

Your version has concrete weighing 90 pounds (80 pound bag, plus ten
pounds of water - and some of that water evaporates). That's some damn
light concrete! Real world concrete, as opposed to imaginary, weighs
in at ~150 PCF. Even lightweight concrete using flyash and other
much-lighter-than-usual aggregate weighs in over 100 PCF.

Let's check Bob's version:
2 bags @ 80# = 160#
2 x 4.3L water = 19#
totals to 180#
manufacturer's lit, .6 CF/bag x 2 = 1.2 CF
180#/1.2 CF = 150#/CF

His numbers check, yours don't.
Do the math.

R


Hey smart math boy. Why don't you take yourself down to the local Home
Depot and look on the blue 80lb bags of concrete and then tell me what
it says. If it doesn't say 1 cu. ft. then come on back here and tell me
about it. Otherwise, why don't you shut up? I've got the bag right out
in the garage and I can read what it says. And I poured it and I know
how much space it filled. I don't care who Bob is or what he is pouring
but unless he is using the same bags I did then you can't say he is
right and I am wrong. Maybe we are both right. Either way, you are a
fool for thinking you know it all.

Interesting, that. Being called a fool by a fool.

You have a very strange position on this. How can both be right? 0.6
CF = 1.0 CF. Does that look right to you? If it does, you shouldn't
be telling people to do the math as you're more than a little shaky on
it yourself. If the bag is marked incorrectly, that's not your fault.
If you miraculously got that 80 pound bag to expand by 40% in volume,
you should start a church.

I have no idea why they would print such a large volume number on the
bag. It's not like the manufacturer would make more money/sales by
doing that. The volume is what it is - you need the correct number of
bags regardless of how the package is marked.

Either the weight as marked is wrong, or the volume is wrong. Since
you'd probably have noticed if the bag weighed around 130 pounds, it's
probably the marked volume that is wrong. Either way, it's wrong and
that's all that matters. Someone should contact a lawyer and start a
class action lawsuit.

R

User Example wrote:
wrote:
On 7 Sep 2005 05:28:16 -0700, "RicodJour"
wrote:


User Example wrote:
a yard of concrete weighs 4000 pounds. Do the math.

Obviously you guys are complete morons and there is no arguing with you.
I tell you what the bag says and I just filled a hole with it 2 days
ago so I know exactly much one bag is yet you people will try to
convince me otherwise without even looking into what I am saying. No
wonder there are so many idiots out there that can't do anything without
hiring it out.

A) Learn to quote correctly when you post.
B) You're not arguing with me. You're arguing against physics. Unless
you've found a loophole in the conservation of mass, you lose. If you
did find a loophole, contact the Nobel Prize board immediately -
they'll probably bump you to the head of the line.
C) You either can't measure or are lacking basic math skills
D) http://www.csgnetwork.com/concretecalc.html

Now please, STFU.

R

User Example wrote:
RicodJour wrote:

User Example wrote:

Robert Allison wrote:

User Example wrote:

I have an 80lb bag of premix concrete in my garage that says 1 cu. ft.
on it. And based on use, I'd say it is right.



And you would be wrong. I have done about 600 replacements of balcony
decks on apartment complexes (2" of concrete on a wooden substrate,
each
about 6'x8'). The first ones that we did, I measured the cubic feet
needed for the deck and bought the appropriate amount of bags (marked 1
cubic foot). On the first one we were 12 bags short. I recalculated
and it came out the same.

I returned to my concrete supplier (instead of home depot) and bought
identical weight bags of concrete (80 pound bags). These, however, were
marked .60 cubic feet. I did the calculations again. The next deck
had
1/2 bag leftover.

Now I use the .60 measurement and it comes out pretty close every time,
even when I buy the stuff at home depot that is marked 1 cubic foot.


No. I would be right. I made a 35" x 16" x 6" form and it took less
than two bags. Do the math. Not sure what you are using but you don't
get as much per bag.



Let's see, you did one little form, and Bob did 600 much larger
placements. So your one test outweighs his 600? Yeah, right.

The manufacturers' literature (all of them) indicate .6 CF.

They also state to add 6-9 pints (2.8-4.3 liters) of water. 1 liter =
2.2 pounds, use the high number weight of water = 4.3 x 2.2 = ~9.5
pounds

Your version has concrete weighing 90 pounds (80 pound bag, plus ten
pounds of water - and some of that water evaporates). That's some damn
light concrete! Real world concrete, as opposed to imaginary, weighs
in at ~150 PCF. Even lightweight concrete using flyash and other
much-lighter-than-usual aggregate weighs in over 100 PCF.

Let's check Bob's version:
2 bags @ 80# = 160#
2 x 4.3L water = 19#
totals to 180#
manufacturer's lit, .6 CF/bag x 2 = 1.2 CF
180#/1.2 CF = 150#/CF

His numbers check, yours don't.
Do the math.

R


Hey smart math boy. Why don't you take yourself down to the local Home
Depot and look on the blue 80lb bags of concrete and then tell me what
it says. If it doesn't say 1 cu. ft. then come on back here and tell me
about it. Otherwise, why don't you shut up? I've got the bag right out
in the garage and I can read what it says. And I poured it and I know
how much space it filled. I don't care who Bob is or what he is pouring
but unless he is using the same bags I did then you can't say he is
right and I am wrong. Maybe we are both right. Either way, you are a
fool for thinking you know it all.

I am not the smart math boy, but I will respond. The bags
down there at HD DO say 1 cubic foot. They are just wrong.
They don't have a cubic foot. They only have .6 cubic feet.
I have about 40 of them out in the shop. That will do a bit
less than a cubic yard of concrete. If I went by the volume
marked on the label, it would seem that I would have a yard
and a third (about). Being as I make my living doing stuff
like this, I have learned not to believe that bag. Saves a
lot of heartache.

Feel free to continue believing the bag. Lots of people do.
I think Home Depot gets a lot of frenzied second trips to the
store that way.

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

Robert Allison wrote:

I am not the smart math boy, but I will respond. The bags
down there at HD DO say 1 cubic foot. They are just wrong.
They don't have a cubic foot. They only have .6 cubic feet.
I have about 40 of them out in the shop. That will do a bit
less than a cubic yard of concrete. If I went by the volume
marked on the label, it would seem that I would have a yard
and a third (about). Being as I make my living doing stuff
like this, I have learned not to believe that bag. Saves a
lot of heartache.

Feel free to continue believing the bag. Lots of people do.
I think Home Depot gets a lot of frenzied second trips to the
store that way.

Bob, who's the manufacturer? I want to call them up and give them
hell. Kind of a hobby. ;)

R

In article .com, "RicodJour" wrote:


Bob, who's the manufacturer? I want to call them up and give them
hell. Kind of a hobby. ;)

If that's a hobby for you... get your hands on a copy of a book called "Idiot
Letters". It's pretty funny. Amazon sells it, and has excerpts available
on-line.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Robert Allison wrote:
User Example wrote:

RicodJour wrote:

User Example wrote:

Robert Allison wrote:

User Example wrote:

I have an 80lb bag of premix concrete in my garage that says 1 cu.
ft.
on it. And based on use, I'd say it is right.




And you would be wrong. I have done about 600 replacements of balcony
decks on apartment complexes (2" of concrete on a wooden substrate,
each
about 6'x8'). The first ones that we did, I measured the cubic feet
needed for the deck and bought the appropriate amount of bags
(marked 1
cubic foot). On the first one we were 12 bags short. I recalculated
and it came out the same.

I returned to my concrete supplier (instead of home depot) and bought
identical weight bags of concrete (80 pound bags). These, however,
were
marked .60 cubic feet. I did the calculations again. The next
deck had
1/2 bag leftover.

Now I use the .60 measurement and it comes out pretty close every
time,
even when I buy the stuff at home depot that is marked 1 cubic foot.


No. I would be right. I made a 35" x 16" x 6" form and it took less
than two bags. Do the math. Not sure what you are using but you don't
get as much per bag.




Let's see, you did one little form, and Bob did 600 much larger
placements. So your one test outweighs his 600? Yeah, right.

The manufacturers' literature (all of them) indicate .6 CF.

They also state to add 6-9 pints (2.8-4.3 liters) of water. 1 liter =
2.2 pounds, use the high number weight of water = 4.3 x 2.2 = ~9.5
pounds

Your version has concrete weighing 90 pounds (80 pound bag, plus ten
pounds of water - and some of that water evaporates). That's some damn
light concrete! Real world concrete, as opposed to imaginary, weighs
in at ~150 PCF. Even lightweight concrete using flyash and other
much-lighter-than-usual aggregate weighs in over 100 PCF.

Let's check Bob's version:
2 bags @ 80# = 160#
2 x 4.3L water = 19#
totals to 180#
manufacturer's lit, .6 CF/bag x 2 = 1.2 CF
180#/1.2 CF = 150#/CF

His numbers check, yours don't.
Do the math.

R


Hey smart math boy. Why don't you take yourself down to the local
Home Depot and look on the blue 80lb bags of concrete and then tell me
what it says. If it doesn't say 1 cu. ft. then come on back here and
tell me about it. Otherwise, why don't you shut up? I've got the bag
right out in the garage and I can read what it says. And I poured it
and I know how much space it filled. I don't care who Bob is or what
he is pouring but unless he is using the same bags I did then you
can't say he is right and I am wrong. Maybe we are both right.
Either way, you are a fool for thinking you know it all.


I am not the smart math boy, but I will respond. The bags down there at
HD DO say 1 cubic foot. They are just wrong. They don't have a cubic
foot. They only have .6 cubic feet. I have about 40 of them out in the
shop. That will do a bit less than a cubic yard of concrete. If I went
by the volume marked on the label, it would seem that I would have a
yard and a third (about). Being as I make my living doing stuff like
this, I have learned not to believe that bag. Saves a lot of heartache.

Feel free to continue believing the bag. Lots of people do. I think
Home Depot gets a lot of frenzied second trips to the store that way.


Whatever. Your tag says you are in Georgetown. I am in Pflugerville.
I have a extra bag in my Jeep. So, let's get together and I'll prove to
you. And if it doesn't come to 1 cu ft we can sue Home Depot for false
advertising.

User Example wrote:

Whatever. Your tag says you are in Georgetown. I am in Pflugerville.
I have a extra bag in my Jeep. So, let's get together and I'll prove to
you. And if it doesn't come to 1 cu ft we can sue Home Depot for false
advertising.

Contact your state's attorney general. They love going after the big
guys - they have deep pockets and it grabs a lot of attention.

R

You must have bought the magic concrete. Bonsal says 80lb is .6cu/ft
but what the **** do they know they just made it.


If you BUY cement, and PLACE concrete, that may well explain where
the extra volume came from....

I am not the smart math boy, but I will respond. The bags
down there at HD DO say 1 cubic foot. They are just wrong.
They don't have a cubic foot.

You're sure that they don't say 1 SQUARE foot? with a little
notation somewhere telling you how deep a slab they mean?

Goedjn wrote:
You must have bought the magic concrete. Bonsal says 80lb is .6cu/ft
but what the **** do they know they just made it.



If you BUY cement, and PLACE concrete, that may well explain where
the extra volume came from....

Here is the website with the tech sheets. Look for yourself. Don't
argue with me anymore... go argue with the manufacturer.

http://www.usmix.com/dp_maximizer_concrete_mix.phtml

User Example wrote:

Here is the website with the tech sheets. Look for yourself. Don't
argue with me anymore... go argue with the manufacturer.

http://www.usmix.com/dp_maximizer_concrete_mix.phtml

You're a piece of work. READ what someone posts before you start
firing off mis-information, numbnutz.

Here is the original post, with a thoughtful and ON TOPIC reply. Pay
attention to which brand names are mentioned in both the question and
the reply:

In article , "Sam the Cat"
wrote:
Folks,
I am looking for the volume of concrete in a 60 and 80 lb bag. It
seems
its only sold by weight and the quantity calculators online at either
sakrete or quikrete are PIA since you have to convert to "equivalent
slab"
size. Someone has got to know the numbers -- looking for something like
x
cuft / 60 lb bag etc

Look at the spec data sheet
http://www.quikrete.com/Spec_D ata/concrete_mix.pdf

YIELD
=B7 An 80 lb (36.3 kg) bag yields approximately 0.60 cu ft (17 L)
=B7 A 60 lb (27.2 kg) bag yields approximately 0.45 cu ft (12.7 L)
=B7 A 40 lb (18.1 kg) bag yields approximately 0.30 cu ft (8.5 L)

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Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

You, on the other hand, post about an ENTIRELY different product,
without mentioning the product by name. This is what you used:

MAXIMIZER=99 is a proprietary formula that provides more coverage per
bag than standard mixes using specially manufactured aggregate formula
producing a high-yield (1 cubic foot per bag) concrete mix stronger
(5500 psi) than regular concrete. The MAXIMIZER=99 secret is the use of
the special aggregate formula instead of pea gravel and sand.
MAXIMIZER=99 also employs a higher proportion of cement-to aggregate,
ensuring its strength and long-term durability.

You have been getting **** for something there would have been no
argument about if you had simply posted information about YOUR product,
instead of saying, "that's what it says on the bag."

What you did is no different than if someone asked about the R-value of
fiberglass batt insulation, and you gave them the R-value for
polyisocyanurate foam without telling them you were talking about an
entirely different material. You know, lying.

Thanks for wasting everyone's time.

R

The guy asked for volume per 60 or 80lb bag. He never specified which
brand he was asking about. I told him the 80lb bags I had were 1 cu ft.
Some other poster besides the original mentioned a specific brand. I
never did. Again, I am dealing with morons.


RicodJour wrote:
User Example wrote:

Here is the website with the tech sheets. Look for yourself. Don't
argue with me anymore... go argue with the manufacturer.

http://www.usmix.com/dp_maximizer_concrete_mix.phtml


You're a piece of work. READ what someone posts before you start
firing off mis-information, numbnutz.

Here is the original post, with a thoughtful and ON TOPIC reply. Pay
attention to which brand names are mentioned in both the question and
the reply:


In article , "Sam the Cat"

wrote:

Folks,
I am looking for the volume of concrete in a 60 and 80 lb bag. It

seems

its only sold by weight and the quantity calculators online at either
sakrete or quikrete are PIA since you have to convert to "equivalent

slab"

size. Someone has got to know the numbers -- looking for something like

x

cuft / 60 lb bag etc


Look at the spec data sheet
http://www.quikrete.com/Spec_D ata/concrete_mix.pdf


YIELD
· An 80 lb (36.3 kg) bag yields approximately 0.60 cu ft (17 L)
· A 60 lb (27.2 kg) bag yields approximately 0.45 cu ft (12.7 L)
· A 40 lb (18.1 kg) bag yields approximately 0.30 cu ft (8.5 L)


--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)


You, on the other hand, post about an ENTIRELY different product,
without mentioning the product by name. This is what you used:

MAXIMIZER™ is a proprietary formula that provides more coverage per
bag than standard mixes using specially manufactured aggregate formula
producing a high-yield (1 cubic foot per bag) concrete mix stronger
(5500 psi) than regular concrete. The MAXIMIZER™ secret is the use of
the special aggregate formula instead of pea gravel and sand.
MAXIMIZER™ also employs a higher proportion of cement-to aggregate,
ensuring its strength and long-term durability.

You have been getting **** for something there would have been no
argument about if you had simply posted information about YOUR product,
instead of saying, "that's what it says on the bag."

What you did is no different than if someone asked about the R-value of
fiberglass batt insulation, and you gave them the R-value for
polyisocyanurate foam without telling them you were talking about an
entirely different material. You know, lying.

Thanks for wasting everyone's time.

R

The guy asked for volume per 60 or 80lb bag. He never specified which
brand he was asking about. I told him the 80lb bags I had were 1 cu ft.
Some other poster besides the original mentioned a specific brand. I
never did. Again, I am dealing with morons.


I wonder how they reconcile the listed 80# bag=1cuft with the
listed specific gravity of between 1.95 and 2.15? Shouldn't
that work out to in excess of 120#/cuft?

In article , User Example wrote:
Goedjn wrote:
You must have bought the magic concrete. Bonsal says 80lb is .6cu/ft
but what the **** do they know they just made it.



If you BUY cement, and PLACE concrete, that may well explain where
the extra volume came from....

Here is the website with the tech sheets. Look for yourself. Don't
argue with me anymore... go argue with the manufacturer.

http://www.usmix.com/dp_maximizer_concrete_mix.phtml

"Maximizer Concrete Mix is a pre-blended, ready to use mixture of concrete
sand, expanded shale and clay aggregates and portland cement..."

Now the reason for the discrepancy becomes clear: this stuff isn't real
concrete.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

In article , Goedjn wrote:

The guy asked for volume per 60 or 80lb bag. He never specified which
brand he was asking about. I told him the 80lb bags I had were 1 cu ft.
Some other poster besides the original mentioned a specific brand. I
never did. Again, I am dealing with morons.

I wonder how they reconcile the listed 80# bag=1cuft with the
listed specific gravity of between 1.95 and 2.15? Shouldn't
that work out to in excess of 120#/cuft?

Less volume after mixing with water, perhaps?

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.