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Jason August 27th 05 04:08 AM

Common question regarding thermostat
 
Hi guys,

I'm in need of some help.

I just bought a Robertshaw 9851i programmable thermostats (any comments?)
and I'm not quite sure how to connect everything. My current thermostat
uses the following wires:

Rh - Heat Transformer
Rc - Cool transformer
Y - Cooling Control
W - Heating Control
G - Fan control relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
B - Heat active reversing valve

The new one I just bought has these:

C - 24 VAC Common
R - 24 VAC transformer
G - Fan relay
Y1 - Cooling Relay
B - Heat active reversing valve
W1 - Heating Relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
H - Humidity relay
D - Dehumidity relay

The only thing I'm confused about is the "C" and the "R". Where do I
connect my former Heat Transformer ("Rh") to? The C or the R? Would the Rc
go to the C? I'm just not sure because their names don't correspond and I
don't want to risk anything.

A black wire is connected to RC on the thermostat and the a red wire is
connected to RH on the thermostat.

I went and checked the furnace and both the RED and BLACK wires are
connected to "R". Does that I connect the black and red wires to "R" on the
new thermostat?

Am I way off?? Any help would be much appreciated. I've done lots of
research on the internet, but I'm getting a little confused.

Thanks in advance,

Jason




PrecisionMachinisT August 27th 05 07:19 AM


"Jason" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

I'm in need of some help.

I just bought a Robertshaw 9851i programmable thermostats (any comments?)
and I'm not quite sure how to connect everything. My current thermostat
uses the following wires:

Rh - Heat Transformer
Rc - Cool transformer
Y - Cooling Control
W - Heating Control
G - Fan control relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
B - Heat active reversing valve

The new one I just bought has these:

C - 24 VAC Common
R - 24 VAC transformer
G - Fan relay
Y1 - Cooling Relay
B - Heat active reversing valve
W1 - Heating Relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
H - Humidity relay
D - Dehumidity relay

The only thing I'm confused about is the "C" and the "R". Where do I
connect my former Heat Transformer ("Rh") to? The C or the R? Would the

Rc
go to the C? I'm just not sure because their names don't correspond and I
don't want to risk anything.

A black wire is connected to RC on the thermostat and the a red wire is
connected to RH on the thermostat.

I went and checked the furnace and both the RED and BLACK wires are
connected to "R". Does that I connect the black and red wires to "R" on

the
new thermostat?

Am I way off?? Any help would be much appreciated. I've done lots of
research on the internet, but I'm getting a little confused.


http://www.hometech.com/learn/hvac.html

--

SVL



Paddlepop August 27th 05 01:50 PM

To answer the question you need to post the make and model of the old
thermostat
"Jason" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

I'm in need of some help.

I just bought a Robertshaw 9851i programmable thermostats (any comments?)
and I'm not quite sure how to connect everything. My current thermostat
uses the following wires:

Rh - Heat Transformer
Rc - Cool transformer
Y - Cooling Control
W - Heating Control
G - Fan control relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
B - Heat active reversing valve

The new one I just bought has these:

C - 24 VAC Common
R - 24 VAC transformer
G - Fan relay
Y1 - Cooling Relay
B - Heat active reversing valve
W1 - Heating Relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
H - Humidity relay
D - Dehumidity relay

The only thing I'm confused about is the "C" and the "R". Where do I
connect my former Heat Transformer ("Rh") to? The C or the R? Would the
Rc
go to the C? I'm just not sure because their names don't correspond and I
don't want to risk anything.

A black wire is connected to RC on the thermostat and the a red wire is
connected to RH on the thermostat.

I went and checked the furnace and both the RED and BLACK wires are
connected to "R". Does that I connect the black and red wires to "R" on
the new thermostat?

Am I way off?? Any help would be much appreciated. I've done lots of
research on the internet, but I'm getting a little confused.

Thanks in advance,

Jason






Jason August 27th 05 02:08 PM

Sweet, thanks!

"PrecisionMachinisT" wrote in message
...

"Jason" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

I'm in need of some help.

I just bought a Robertshaw 9851i programmable thermostats (any comments?)
and I'm not quite sure how to connect everything. My current thermostat
uses the following wires:

Rh - Heat Transformer
Rc - Cool transformer
Y - Cooling Control
W - Heating Control
G - Fan control relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
B - Heat active reversing valve

The new one I just bought has these:

C - 24 VAC Common
R - 24 VAC transformer
G - Fan relay
Y1 - Cooling Relay
B - Heat active reversing valve
W1 - Heating Relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
H - Humidity relay
D - Dehumidity relay

The only thing I'm confused about is the "C" and the "R". Where do I
connect my former Heat Transformer ("Rh") to? The C or the R? Would the

Rc
go to the C? I'm just not sure because their names don't correspond and
I
don't want to risk anything.

A black wire is connected to RC on the thermostat and the a red wire is
connected to RH on the thermostat.

I went and checked the furnace and both the RED and BLACK wires are
connected to "R". Does that I connect the black and red wires to "R" on

the
new thermostat?

Am I way off?? Any help would be much appreciated. I've done lots of
research on the internet, but I'm getting a little confused.


http://www.hometech.com/learn/hvac.html

--

SVL





Jason August 27th 05 02:11 PM

Hey Paddlepop,

It's a White-Rodgers 1D56W-380

"Paddlepop" wrote in message
...
To answer the question you need to post the make and model of the old
thermostat
"Jason" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

I'm in need of some help.

I just bought a Robertshaw 9851i programmable thermostats (any comments?)
and I'm not quite sure how to connect everything. My current thermostat
uses the following wires:

Rh - Heat Transformer
Rc - Cool transformer
Y - Cooling Control
W - Heating Control
G - Fan control relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
B - Heat active reversing valve

The new one I just bought has these:

C - 24 VAC Common
R - 24 VAC transformer
G - Fan relay
Y1 - Cooling Relay
B - Heat active reversing valve
W1 - Heating Relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
H - Humidity relay
D - Dehumidity relay

The only thing I'm confused about is the "C" and the "R". Where do I
connect my former Heat Transformer ("Rh") to? The C or the R? Would the
Rc
go to the C? I'm just not sure because their names don't correspond and
I
don't want to risk anything.

A black wire is connected to RC on the thermostat and the a red wire is
connected to RH on the thermostat.

I went and checked the furnace and both the RED and BLACK wires are
connected to "R". Does that I connect the black and red wires to "R" on
the new thermostat?

Am I way off?? Any help would be much appreciated. I've done lots of
research on the internet, but I'm getting a little confused.

Thanks in advance,

Jason








Jason August 27th 05 04:02 PM

Thanks Paddlepop... but I'm still not to sure where to connect the black and
red wires on the new thermostat.

"Paddlepop" wrote in message
...

"Jason" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

I'm in need of some help.

I just bought a Robertshaw 9851i programmable thermostats (any comments?)
and I'm not quite sure how to connect everything. My current thermostat
uses the following wires:

Rh - Heat Transformer
Rc - Cool transformer
Y - Cooling Control
W - Heating Control
G - Fan control relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
B - Heat active reversing valve

The new one I just bought has these:

C - 24 VAC Common
R - 24 VAC transformer
G - Fan relay
Y1 - Cooling Relay
B - Heat active reversing valve
W1 - Heating Relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
H - Humidity relay
D - Dehumidity relay

The only thing I'm confused about is the "C" and the "R". Where do I
connect my former Heat Transformer ("Rh") to? The C or the R? Would the
Rc
go to the C? I'm just not sure because their names don't correspond and
I
don't want to risk anything.

A black wire is connected to RC on the thermostat and the a red wire is
connected to RH on the thermostat.

I went and checked the furnace and both the RED and BLACK wires are
connected to "R". Does that I connect the black and red wires to "R" on
the
new thermostat?

Am I way off?? Any help would be much appreciated. I've done lots of
research on the internet, but I'm getting a little confused.

Thanks in advance,

Jason









Paddlepop August 27th 05 04:49 PM

The 24V Active (single transformer) RH + RC goes to R ) C goes to the
common on the transformer. There should be no connection to R - RH - RC (
There is no terminal for C on your old thermostat so locate the wire at the
transformer
"Jason" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

I'm in need of some help.

I just bought a Robertshaw 9851i programmable thermostats (any comments?)
and I'm not quite sure how to connect everything. My current thermostat
uses the following wires:

Rh - Heat Transformer
Rc - Cool transformer
Y - Cooling Control
W - Heating Control
G - Fan control relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
B - Heat active reversing valve

The new one I just bought has these:

C - 24 VAC Common
R - 24 VAC transformer
G - Fan relay
Y1 - Cooling Relay
B - Heat active reversing valve
W1 - Heating Relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
H - Humidity relay
D - Dehumidity relay

The only thing I'm confused about is the "C" and the "R". Where do I
connect my former Heat Transformer ("Rh") to? The C or the R? Would the
Rc
go to the C? I'm just not sure because their names don't correspond and I
don't want to risk anything.

A black wire is connected to RC on the thermostat and the a red wire is
connected to RH on the thermostat.

I went and checked the furnace and both the RED and BLACK wires are
connected to "R". Does that I connect the black and red wires to "R" on
the new thermostat?

Am I way off?? Any help would be much appreciated. I've done lots of
research on the internet, but I'm getting a little confused.

Thanks in advance,

Jason






Paddlepop August 27th 05 05:09 PM

Just as an after thought, there is no COMMON wire connected to any terminal
on your old thermostat. So if you are absolutely sure that the RED wire was
RH and the BLACK wire RC and that you have a single transformer and these
two wires were bridged Then one of these two wires can be disconnected from
the transformer ACTIVE and connected to common SAY THE BLACK WIRE this wire
can then be connected to C on the new thermostat. The wiring would then be
RED wire R transformer to R new thermostat and BLACK wire common transformer
to C on the new thermostat
"Jason" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

I'm in need of some help.

I just bought a Robertshaw 9851i programmable thermostats (any comments?)
and I'm not quite sure how to connect everything. My current thermostat
uses the following wires:

Rh - Heat Transformer
Rc - Cool transformer
Y - Cooling Control
W - Heating Control
G - Fan control relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
B - Heat active reversing valve

The new one I just bought has these:

C - 24 VAC Common
R - 24 VAC transformer
G - Fan relay
Y1 - Cooling Relay
B - Heat active reversing valve
W1 - Heating Relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
H - Humidity relay
D - Dehumidity relay

The only thing I'm confused about is the "C" and the "R". Where do I
connect my former Heat Transformer ("Rh") to? The C or the R? Would the
Rc
go to the C? I'm just not sure because their names don't correspond and I
don't want to risk anything.

A black wire is connected to RC on the thermostat and the a red wire is
connected to RH on the thermostat.

I went and checked the furnace and both the RED and BLACK wires are
connected to "R". Does that I connect the black and red wires to "R" on
the new thermostat?

Am I way off?? Any help would be much appreciated. I've done lots of
research on the internet, but I'm getting a little confused.

Thanks in advance,

Jason






Jason August 27th 05 05:14 PM

I was just thinking if that'd be possible... thanks man, you've been a great
help.

Really appreciate it.

"Paddlepop" wrote in message
...
Just as an after thought, there is no COMMON wire connected to any
terminal on your old thermostat. So if you are absolutely sure that the
RED wire was RH and the BLACK wire RC and that you have a single
transformer and these two wires were bridged Then one of these two wires
can be disconnected from the transformer ACTIVE and connected to common
SAY THE BLACK WIRE this wire can then be connected to C on the new
thermostat. The wiring would then be RED wire R transformer to R new
thermostat and BLACK wire common transformer to C on the new thermostat
"Jason" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

I'm in need of some help.

I just bought a Robertshaw 9851i programmable thermostats (any comments?)
and I'm not quite sure how to connect everything. My current thermostat
uses the following wires:

Rh - Heat Transformer
Rc - Cool transformer
Y - Cooling Control
W - Heating Control
G - Fan control relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
B - Heat active reversing valve

The new one I just bought has these:

C - 24 VAC Common
R - 24 VAC transformer
G - Fan relay
Y1 - Cooling Relay
B - Heat active reversing valve
W1 - Heating Relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
H - Humidity relay
D - Dehumidity relay

The only thing I'm confused about is the "C" and the "R". Where do I
connect my former Heat Transformer ("Rh") to? The C or the R? Would the
Rc
go to the C? I'm just not sure because their names don't correspond and
I
don't want to risk anything.

A black wire is connected to RC on the thermostat and the a red wire is
connected to RH on the thermostat.

I went and checked the furnace and both the RED and BLACK wires are
connected to "R". Does that I connect the black and red wires to "R" on
the new thermostat?

Am I way off?? Any help would be much appreciated. I've done lots of
research on the internet, but I'm getting a little confused.

Thanks in advance,

Jason








PrecisionMachinisT August 27th 05 05:35 PM


"Jason" wrote in message
...
"PrecisionMachinisT" wrote in message
...

http://www.hometech.com/learn/hvac.html

Sweet, thanks!


A) Take the black wire loose from 'R' at the air handler, because only the
red wire needs to be connected to 'R' there.

B) Now use this black wire to pass 'C' to the thermostat instead......if
there's no C terminal at the air handler then you need to connect it to the
transformer lead that is opposite R

( though C is probably not absolutely needed at the thermostat, without it
you will likely get poor battery life and /or none of the led indicator
lights will work )

HTH

--

SVL



Stormin Mormon August 28th 05 08:26 PM

Abandon the black wire. Fold it back, and wrap it around the wire bundle.

Connect the red wire from R to RH on the thermostat. Leave the small jumper
wire from RH to RC.

--

Christopher A. Young
Do good work.
It's longer in the short run
but shorter in the long run.
..
..


"Jason" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

I'm in need of some help.

I just bought a Robertshaw 9851i programmable thermostats (any comments?)
and I'm not quite sure how to connect everything. My current thermostat
uses the following wires:

Rh - Heat Transformer
Rc - Cool transformer
Y - Cooling Control
W - Heating Control
G - Fan control relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
B - Heat active reversing valve

The new one I just bought has these:

C - 24 VAC Common
R - 24 VAC transformer
G - Fan relay
Y1 - Cooling Relay
B - Heat active reversing valve
W1 - Heating Relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
H - Humidity relay
D - Dehumidity relay

The only thing I'm confused about is the "C" and the "R". Where do I
connect my former Heat Transformer ("Rh") to? The C or the R? Would the Rc
go to the C? I'm just not sure because their names don't correspond and I
don't want to risk anything.

A black wire is connected to RC on the thermostat and the a red wire is
connected to RH on the thermostat.

I went and checked the furnace and both the RED and BLACK wires are
connected to "R". Does that I connect the black and red wires to "R" on the
new thermostat?

Am I way off?? Any help would be much appreciated. I've done lots of
research on the internet, but I'm getting a little confused.

Thanks in advance,

Jason





Jason August 28th 05 09:08 PM

Thanks Stormin,

There actually isn't a jumper... am I able to get one from anywhere?
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
Abandon the black wire. Fold it back, and wrap it around the wire bundle.

Connect the red wire from R to RH on the thermostat. Leave the small
jumper
wire from RH to RC.

--

Christopher A. Young
Do good work.
It's longer in the short run
but shorter in the long run.
.
.


"Jason" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

I'm in need of some help.

I just bought a Robertshaw 9851i programmable thermostats (any comments?)
and I'm not quite sure how to connect everything. My current thermostat
uses the following wires:

Rh - Heat Transformer
Rc - Cool transformer
Y - Cooling Control
W - Heating Control
G - Fan control relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
B - Heat active reversing valve

The new one I just bought has these:

C - 24 VAC Common
R - 24 VAC transformer
G - Fan relay
Y1 - Cooling Relay
B - Heat active reversing valve
W1 - Heating Relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
H - Humidity relay
D - Dehumidity relay

The only thing I'm confused about is the "C" and the "R". Where do I
connect my former Heat Transformer ("Rh") to? The C or the R? Would the
Rc
go to the C? I'm just not sure because their names don't correspond and I
don't want to risk anything.

A black wire is connected to RC on the thermostat and the a red wire is
connected to RH on the thermostat.

I went and checked the furnace and both the RED and BLACK wires are
connected to "R". Does that I connect the black and red wires to "R" on
the
new thermostat?

Am I way off?? Any help would be much appreciated. I've done lots of
research on the internet, but I'm getting a little confused.

Thanks in advance,

Jason







Jason August 28th 05 09:16 PM

Actually, I just realized...

There's only an R on the new thermostat ... so I wouldn't need a jumper
anyways.

So do you still think that I should just fold back the black wire and be
done with it? I'd still connect the R from the furnace (red wire) to the R
on the new thermostat.

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
Abandon the black wire. Fold it back, and wrap it around the wire bundle.

Connect the red wire from R to RH on the thermostat. Leave the small
jumper
wire from RH to RC.

--

Christopher A. Young
Do good work.
It's longer in the short run
but shorter in the long run.
.
.


"Jason" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

I'm in need of some help.

I just bought a Robertshaw 9851i programmable thermostats (any comments?)
and I'm not quite sure how to connect everything. My current thermostat
uses the following wires:

Rh - Heat Transformer
Rc - Cool transformer
Y - Cooling Control
W - Heating Control
G - Fan control relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
B - Heat active reversing valve

The new one I just bought has these:

C - 24 VAC Common
R - 24 VAC transformer
G - Fan relay
Y1 - Cooling Relay
B - Heat active reversing valve
W1 - Heating Relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
H - Humidity relay
D - Dehumidity relay

The only thing I'm confused about is the "C" and the "R". Where do I
connect my former Heat Transformer ("Rh") to? The C or the R? Would the
Rc
go to the C? I'm just not sure because their names don't correspond and I
don't want to risk anything.

A black wire is connected to RC on the thermostat and the a red wire is
connected to RH on the thermostat.

I went and checked the furnace and both the RED and BLACK wires are
connected to "R". Does that I connect the black and red wires to "R" on
the
new thermostat?

Am I way off?? Any help would be much appreciated. I've done lots of
research on the internet, but I'm getting a little confused.

Thanks in advance,

Jason







PrecisionMachinisT August 29th 05 02:28 AM


"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
"Jason" wrote in message
...
Hi guys,

I'm in need of some help.

I just bought a Robertshaw 9851i programmable thermostats (any comments?)
and I'm not quite sure how to connect everything. My current thermostat
uses the following wires:

Rh - Heat Transformer
Rc - Cool transformer
Y - Cooling Control
W - Heating Control
G - Fan control relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
B - Heat active reversing valve

The new one I just bought has these:

C - 24 VAC Common
R - 24 VAC transformer
G - Fan relay
Y1 - Cooling Relay
B - Heat active reversing valve
W1 - Heating Relay
O - Cool active reversing valve
H - Humidity relay
D - Dehumidity relay

The only thing I'm confused about is the "C" and the "R". Where do I
connect my former Heat Transformer ("Rh") to? The C or the R? Would the

Rc
go to the C? I'm just not sure because their names don't correspond and I
don't want to risk anything.

A black wire is connected to RC on the thermostat and the a red wire is
connected to RH on the thermostat.

I went and checked the furnace and both the RED and BLACK wires are
connected to "R". Does that I connect the black and red wires to "R" on

the
new thermostat?

Am I way off?? Any help would be much appreciated. I've done lots of
research on the internet, but I'm getting a little confused.

Thanks in advance,

Abandon the black wire. Fold it back, and wrap it around the wire bundle.

Connect the red wire from R to RH on the thermostat. Leave the small

jumper
wire from RH to RC.



Chris,

You idiot......if you can't give accurate advice then SHUT THE **** UP !!!

There is no 'jumper' and there's also no 'RH' terminal on his new
thermostat........

Also, he really should run "C" from the AHU out to the new thermostat--while
many stats don't actually NEED that connection, there are some that
absolutely do....otherwise, at the very least he will get poor battery life,
and any led indicator lights on the new thermostat will fail to work...

--

SVL



RP August 29th 05 03:31 AM



Jason wrote:
Actually, I just realized...

There's only an R on the new thermostat ... so I wouldn't need a jumper
anyways.

So do you still think that I should just fold back the black wire and be
done with it? I'd still connect the R from the furnace (red wire) to the R
on the new thermostat.


If I were you I'd get a second opinion.

hvacrmedic


Phillip M. Feldman May 3rd 20 07:44 PM

Common question regarding thermostat
 
replying to PrecisionMachinisT, Phillip M. Feldman wrote:
http://www.hometech.com/learn/hvac.html

This is a bad link.

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for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...tat-25738-.htm



trader_4 May 3rd 20 08:17 PM

Common question regarding thermostat
 
On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 2:44:05 PM UTC-4, Phillip M. Feldman wrote:
replying to PrecisionMachinisT, Phillip M. Feldman wrote:
http://www.hometech.com/learn/hvac.html

This is a bad link.

--
for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...tat-25738-.htm


I can't imagine why a link on a 15 year old post no longer works.
Do you by chance have the phone number for Packard Motors?



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