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$19.02 for a toggle switch!
Greetings,
I just paid $19.02 for an over/under 20A toggle switch. Where, if anywhere, can I go to find such items at a significant discount? Thanks, William |
" wrote in message oups.com... Greetings, I just paid $19.02 for an over/under 20A toggle switch. Where, if anywhere, can I go to find such items at a significant discount? Thanks, William over/under toggle switch? Do you mean a stacked switch? two switches on that fit into a single device location? Specialty devices have always been expensive. try google. |
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There are literally thousands of toggle switches. There probably is a cheaper one but with a lack of specs I couldn't even guess what you want. Ty www.digikey.com and www.mouser.com both electronics components distributors have decent websited for searching. Over/Under is not a technical term used to describe any switch I have ever seen. Do you mean dual switch handles or DPDT contacts " wrote in message oups.com... Greetings, I just paid $19.02 for an over/under 20A toggle switch. Where, if anywhere, can I go to find such items at a significant discount? Thanks, William |
Greetings,
Yes, I mean a stacked switch. http://www.universityofsavanna.com/f...me.repair/0508 17%20%20Over%20Under%2020A%20Toggle%20Switch/overUnder20AmpT oggle.jpg or http://tinyurl.com/7qznw The writing on the top of the box is hard to read: " COMBINATION DEVICE TWO SINGLE POLE SWITCHES SIDE WIRED 20A-120/277V AC " Froogle.com-ing for the part number and Leviton yields one result http://www.levitonproducts.com/catal...g le&ovtac=PI for 18.40+tax+s&h I am just tired of spending $100's on this type of item $20 at a time when I know they can't cost much more than $1 to produce. I would even rather purchase 100 of them at $3 each and use them elsewhere than buy two at $20. William |
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Harry K wrote: wrote: Greetings, I just paid $19.02 for an over/under 20A toggle switch. Where, if anywhere, can I go to find such items at a significant discount? Thanks, William If you are talking about stacked switches used for normal 15 or 20 amp circuits, they shouldn't be much more than a normal switch. I bought several way back when at not much over single switch price IIRC, definitly not outrageous. Harry K Greetings Harry, Could you give me a number or URL where I can buy a stacked 20A toggle switch "not much over single switch price"? Thanks a lot, William |
While it is only a 15 amp rated dual switch, Lowes list one that is a
"custom look" for $ 11.88. I wold think they would have a plain one for less. " wrote in message oups.com... Greetings, I just paid $19.02 for an over/under 20A toggle switch. Where, if anywhere, can I go to find such items at a significant discount? Thanks, William |
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http://www.dale-electric.com/d etail.cfm?ItemNumber=5334
Greetings, The site currently appears to be having trouble but I will check them out again later (hopefully) once they are working. William Error Message: =========================== Error Occurred While Processing Request The request has exceeded the allowable time limit Tag: cfoutput The error occurred in /var/www/html/header.cfm: line 8 6 : 7 : td width="15" bgcolor="#666699"img src="spacer.gif" width="15" height="1" alt="" border="0"/td 8 : td align="right" valign="top" width="125" bgcolor="#666699"font class="headertext"cfoutput#DateFormat(now(), "mmm. dd, yyyy")#/cfoutput/fontimg src="slash_bck.gif" width="15" height="20" border="0" alt=""/td 9 : /tr/table 10 : table width="750" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" Please try the following: * Check the ColdFusion documentation to verify that you are using the correct syntax. * Search the Knowledge Base to find a solution to your problem. Browser Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050720 Fedora/1.0.6-1.1.fc3 Firefox/1.0.6 Remote Address 70.110.138.111 Referrer http://www.dale-electric.com/catresults.cfm Date/Time 22-Aug-05 12:10 AM Stack Trace at cfheader2ecfm409204624.runPage(/var/www/html/header.cfm:8) at cfcatresults2ecfm1806654655.runPage(/var/www/html/catresults.cfm:223) coldfusion.runtime.RequestTimedOutException: The request has exceeded the allowable time limit Tag: cfoutput at coldfusion.tagext.io.OutputTag.doStartTag(OutputTa g.java:148) at cfheader2ecfm409204624.runPage(/var/www/html/header.cfm:8) at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java :152) at coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(Inclu deTag.java:343) at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._emptyTag(CfJspPage.j ava:1908) at cfcatresults2ecfm1806654655.runPage(/var/www/html/catresults.cfm:223) at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java :152) at coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(Inclu deTag.java:343) at coldfusion.filter.CfincludeFilter.invoke(Cfinclude Filter.java:65) at coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(Applica tionFilter.java:210) at coldfusion.filter.RequestMonitorFilter.invoke(Requ estMonitorFilter.java:51) at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.jav a:86) at coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(Exception Filter.java:50) at coldfusion.filter.BrowserDebugFilter.invoke(Browse rDebugFilter.java:52) at coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.inv oke(ClientScopePersistenceFilter.java:28) at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilt er.java:38) at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilt er.java:38) at coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(Datasour ceFilter.java:22) at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:105) at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service(Boot strapServlet.java:78) at jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker. java:91) at jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvok erChain.java:42) at jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequ estDispatcher.java:257) at jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(Servlet EngineService.java:527) at jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable( JRunProxyService.java:204) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invok eRunnable(ThreadPool.java:349) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRu nnable(ThreadPool.java:457) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeR unnable(ThreadPool.java:295) at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java :66) |
" wrote in message The site currently appears to be having trouble but I will check them out again later (hopefully) once they are working. Knock off everything past .com and it works. RM~ www.dale-electric.com/ |
On 20-Aug-2005, "Harry K" wrote: For the life of me I don't see why they should be so high when a regular one is in the $1.00 to $2.00 range. They sell a gazzillion 15A switches - how many 20A do you think people need? Supply and demand. Mike |
" wrote in message oups.com... Greetings, I just paid $19.02 for an over/under 20A toggle switch. Where, if anywhere, can I go to find such items at a significant discount? Thanks, William You do point out that this is rated for 20A Do you really NEED 20A rating ? Most "home" devices are only 15A rated, so this must be a heavy duty/industrial/vapor proof/hospital grade switch, and is nothing like the crap in most houses as far as quality As such it's not that outrageous to pay that much. Even a crappy builder grade 15A stacked switch will be $5.00 or more post the actual manufacturer's name and the part number so we can tell if you got a deal or not. |
Amun wrote: " wrote in message oups.com... Greetings, I just paid $19.02 for an over/under 20A toggle switch. Where, if anywhere, can I go to find such items at a significant discount? Thanks, William You do point out that this is rated for 20A Do you really NEED 20A rating ? Yes, I need a 20A rating. The switch is for a duplex receptacle. Most "home" devices are only 15A rated, so this must be a heavy duty/industrial/vapor proof/hospital grade switch, and is nothing like the crap in most houses as far as quality I am happy to purchase a builder/residential grade 20A switch. As such it's not that outrageous to pay that much. The cost of manufacturing is probably very low in comparison to the final price. Either I am being price gouged or there is a tremendous amount of inefficiency somewhere along the way. Even a crappy builder grade 15A stacked switch will be $5.00 or more post the actual manufacturer's name and the part number so we can tell if you got a deal or not. I did. The link to that information is: http://tinyurl.com/7qznw The fuzzy text is typed in elsewhere in my second post. Hope this helps, William |
Greetings,
I spoke to the tech guy at www.dale-electric.com/ and apparently they are in some sort of effort to redo certain portions of the site. (It is up now). THANKS A LOT for letting me know about them. Their prices are very good and I will surely order from them many times -- unless someone can point me to a site cheaper. Thanks, William |
The cost of manufacturing is probably very low in comparison to the
final price. Either I am being price gouged or there is a tremendous amount of inefficiency somewhere along the way. There is inefficiency along the way. It's basic economics. As another poster seemed to indicate, the less units produced the higher their cost. Not only for the mfgr but further on in the supply chain until it gets to you. Sure there is a markup on everything, and in this case the one 20A switch that sat for six months displaced the 20 other 15A switches that would have moved if the space were available. And the market will obviously bear what you paid. |
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And the market will obviously bear what you paid. That's the same logic that's having us pay $3 for a gallon of gas, while oil companies rack up unprecedented and obscenely huge profits. |
Tom S wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... And the market will obviously bear what you paid. That's the same logic that's having us pay $3 for a gallon of gas, while oil companies rack up unprecedented and obscenely huge profits. If you will provide a 20% increase in US refining capacity tomorrow you'll see the markets drop overnight as well. Oh, you say they won't let you build there? Welcome to the problem... |
" wrote in message oups.com... Amun wrote: " wrote in message oups.com... Greetings, I just paid $19.02 for an over/under 20A toggle switch. Where, if anywhere, can I go to find such items at a significant discount? Thanks, William You do point out that this is rated for 20A Do you really NEED 20A rating ? Yes, I need a 20A rating. The switch is for a duplex receptacle. Most "home" devices are only 15A rated, so this must be a heavy duty/industrial/vapor proof/hospital grade switch, and is nothing like the crap in most houses as far as quality I am happy to purchase a builder/residential grade 20A switch. As such it's not that outrageous to pay that much. The cost of manufacturing is probably very low in comparison to the final price. Either I am being price gouged or there is a tremendous amount of inefficiency somewhere along the way. Even a crappy builder grade 15A stacked switch will be $5.00 or more post the actual manufacturer's name and the part number so we can tell if you got a deal or not. I did. The link to that information is: http://tinyurl.com/7qznw The fuzzy text is typed in elsewhere in my second post. Hope this helps, William According to the link that switch is that much. And note in the description "commercial grade" you simply pay more for those, mainly because they are heavier duty and not that popular. And the fact is those stacked switches are not that popular even in 15A. .....you get a better quality switch, but if price is an issue do you really need it while you still say you need 20A you also say it's for a duplex outlet. But what kinds of loads do you plug in there ? What gauge wire is hooked up to the switch /outlet #14 or #12 ? what rating is the panel breaker on that circuit. ? Not that it matters but you would really panic if you priced out some of the "hospital grade - vapor sealed- stuff" |
Duane Bozarth wrote:
That's the same logic that's having us pay $3 for a gallon of gas, while oil companies rack up unprecedented and obscenely huge profits. If you will provide a 20% increase in US refining capacity tomorrow you'll see the markets drop overnight as well. Lack of refining capacity might make the price of gasoline go up, but it would make the price of crude oil go down (lower the demand for crude oil, and the oil-producers won't be able to demand such high prices anymore). Since the price of oil has been going up as well, the only logical conclusion is that not enough crude oil is being produced. |
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"Duane Bozarth" wrote in message ... wrote: Duane Bozarth wrote: That's the same logic that's having us pay $3 for a gallon of gas, while oil companies rack up unprecedented and obscenely huge profits. If you will provide a 20% increase in US refining capacity tomorrow you'll see the markets drop overnight as well. Lack of refining capacity might make the price of gasoline go up, but it would make the price of crude oil go down (lower the demand for crude oil, and the oil-producers won't be able to demand such high prices anymore). Since the price of oil has been going up as well, the only logical conclusion is that not enough crude oil is being produced. Actually, that's the problem as the Saudi Oil Minister pointed out...producing more oil won't help the US because we couldn't process it any faster even if they did... Sad fact is that the price of oil is decided by a few people in some offices and has very little to do with supply and demand. My best guess is they throw a dart and where it lands is the price of oil this week. LOL The Bush family IS in oil, and with no chance to be re-elected after a second term anyway, guess who's going to make sure he has a nice "retirement package" set up after the next election. So don't hold your breath that the "powers that be" will do anything other than provide lip service. At best,....as winter approaches they "may" subsidize heating oil and natural gas, to keep people from rioting in the streets to stay warm. AMUN |
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 19:18:31 GMT, Tom S wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... And the market will obviously bear what you paid. That's the same logic that's having us pay $3 for a gallon of gas, while oil companies rack up unprecedented and obscenely huge profits. riiiight. $70/barrel == $35/barrel Must be that new math. |
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 19:18:31 GMT, Tom S wrote: wrote in message oups.com... And the market will obviously bear what you paid. That's the same logic that's having us pay $3 for a gallon of gas, while oil companies rack up unprecedented and obscenely huge profits. riiiight. $70/barrel == $35/barrel Must be that new math. Only inside your pea brain. No one claimed $70 = $35. Turn off your damned computer and pick up a WSJ. |
Amun wrote:
.... Sad fact is that the price of oil is decided by a few people in some offices and has very little to do with supply and demand. The actual facts are that oil prices are set on the open markets and currently are mostly controlled by two factors--increased demand markedly influenced by rapid growth/exapnsion in China and India and the rest of SE Asia and speculation based on current events and inflexibility in both the producing a supply side. The latter effect is readily observable simply by paying attention to the high correlation in prices to world events and even things as small as threat of loss of production owing to such events as hurricanes in the Gulf. While in theory the loss of gasoline refinery capacity for a short time shouldn't matter (in fact, should reduce demand for crude), it can be noted that in the present speculative mode crude also tends to rise rather than fall. The price of crude oil is set by movements on the three major international petroleum exchanges-- - New York Mercantile Exchange (NYMEX, http://www.nymex.com) - International Petroleum Exchange in London (IPE, http://www.ipe.uk.com) - Singapore International Monetary Exchange (SIMEX, http://www.simex.com.sg). My best guess is they throw a dart and where it lands is the price of oil this week. LOL The Bush family IS in oil, and with no chance to be re-elected after a second term anyway, guess who's going to make sure he has a nice "retirement package" set up after the next election. The significance of the Bush family in the global oil markets is absolutely inconsequential. They're nickel and dime players even in the US. (Not that I wouldn't like a few of the nickels and dimes, but reality is they just are not a sizable factor in the overall oil business). So don't hold your breath that the "powers that be" will do anything other than provide lip service. The problem is that your omnipotent "powers that be" simply aren't...the primary problem in the US continues to be the stranglehold on expansion of domestic production (including exploration but primarily refining capacity) owing mostly to environmental regulation and the "not in my backyard" siting problems. At best,....as winter approaches they "may" subsidize heating oil and natural gas, to keep people from rioting in the streets to stay warm. There's another problem of unintended consequences--the tightness of supplies of natural gas is largely owing to the high conversion to gas for producing electricity in order to reduce coal usage. This was one of Al Gore's brilliant ideas (actually I doubt if it was Al's idea, I don't think he's ever had one, but it was a strategy he was a major proponent for)... |
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Newsgroups: alt.home.repair From: "Tom S" - Find messages by this author Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 19:18:31 GMT Local: Fri, Aug 26 2005 3:18 pm Subject: $19.02 for a toggle switch! Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse "That's the same logic that's having us pay $3 for a gallon of gas, while oil companies rack up unprecedented and obscenely huge profits." If people stopped buying huge SUVs getting 12 MPG (like the one my brother bought), the cost of gas would go down. You don't like the price of gas? Get a fuel efficient car and it won't matter as much! We as a country squander resources at enormous rates, then gripe about the cost. We have huge houses, huge vehicles, and live in a throw away society. My company service truck only gets 12 MPG, but I need a large vehicle to carry all the stuff I need to take care of my customers. My family car gets better fuel economy, and when the kids move out, we will get a still smaller car! You just want someone else to pay for your wasteful habbits. Stretch |
"Amun" wrote:
Sad fact is that the price of oil is decided by a few people in some offices and has very little to do with supply and demand. Can you name them?. Why do they set prices instead of the New York Mercantile Exchange and other commodity exchanges? Thanks. -- Doug |
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