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[email protected] July 1st 05 02:35 PM

Minimal bathroom...
 
Hi,

I'm planning to construct a small bathroom (washstand, toilet, and a
minmal shower) in a very reduced space. How can I arrange these three
pieces to minimize the space occupied by them? Can anybody point me to
some drawings?

Thanks in advance
Sammy


[email protected] July 1st 05 03:31 PM

Greetings,

Check out the "Floor Plans" section to look at how people solved a
simular space problem.
http://www.mcltd.com/Product%20Gallery.htm

Hope this helps,
William


[email protected] July 1st 05 04:29 PM

Use a pocket door and you can sqeeze those three devices into a 4x10
space or smaller if you desire...


Philip Lewis July 1st 05 06:31 PM

writes:
I'm planning to construct a small bathroom (washstand, toilet, and a
minmal shower) in a very reduced space. How can I arrange these three
pieces to minimize the space occupied by them? Can anybody point me to
some drawings?


I've seen some small bathrooms.
The smallest i think i've seen had the following configuration:

DOOR (open out)
Toilet Sink
Bathtub

It was a bit claustophobic, but in reality, about the smallest i think
you can go without an intergral toilet/sink device. (i remember seeing
them a while ago, but can't seem to find one via google. They were
for institutional use.)
While sitting on the toilet, you could almost operate the sink.
There was just enough room to walk between them and stand before
steping into the tub.

The room was as wide as a tub is long.... my guess around 2 meters.

This would be completely unfriendly to anyone with a disability,
however... and since the current recomendation is to build with the
future in mind (when you are old and decrepit) you might not want to
go *that* small) ;)

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G Henslee July 1st 05 06:41 PM

wrote:
Hi,

I'm planning to construct a small bathroom (washstand, toilet, and a
minmal shower) in a very reduced space. How can I arrange these three
pieces to minimize the space occupied by them? Can anybody point me to
some drawings?

Thanks in advance
Sammy


In addition to the other's advice, learn to use a search engine. I
found this
http://www.diydata.com/planning/bath...oom_design.htm
along with thousands of others in 0.27 seconds he
http://tinyurl.com/89vkg

PipeDown July 1st 05 07:56 PM

you will need min 15" clearance to each sideof the toilet and 24" in front.
A 30" circle clearance for the shower is generally required.
Beyond that pedistal sinks take less space than vanity sinks

Usually the shower goes at the far end of the room as three sides are closed
and the sink and toilet go wherever they fit to allow the door to operate
and satisfy code clearances.



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Hi,

I'm planning to construct a small bathroom (washstand, toilet, and a
minmal shower) in a very reduced space. How can I arrange these three
pieces to minimize the space occupied by them? Can anybody point me to
some drawings?

Thanks in advance
Sammy




tom.jenkins July 1st 05 08:48 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi,

I'm planning to construct a small bathroom (washstand, toilet, and a
minmal shower) in a very reduced space. How can I arrange these three
pieces to minimize the space occupied by them? Can anybody point me to
some drawings?

Thanks in advance
Sammy


A little more information about the space you have would help us help you
better. There are many ways this can be arranged.




[email protected] July 1st 05 09:42 PM

We live with toilet, sink, & shower in 48 by 99 inches.
Toilet tank slips under corian counter with integral sink.
Extended toilet bowl projects about 20 inches.
24 inches clear to 32 inch deep shower.
TB


G Henslee July 1st 05 09:44 PM

wrote:
We live with toilet, sink, & shower in 48 by 99 inches.
Toilet tank slips under corian counter with integral sink.
Extended toilet bowl projects about 20 inches.
24 inches clear to 32 inch deep shower.
TB


I've seen postage stamps bigger'n that...

Colbyt July 2nd 05 12:30 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...
We live with toilet, sink, & shower in 48 by 99 inches.
Toilet tank slips under corian counter with integral sink.
Extended toilet bowl projects about 20 inches.
24 inches clear to 32 inch deep shower.
TB


I have one about the same size with a short tub/shower, small sink and
toilet. It is cozy and definitely a one person bathroom.


Colbyt



SammyBar July 2nd 05 02:00 AM

A little more information about the space you have would help us help you
better. There are many ways this can be arranged.

This is the question. We have a small sleep room about 10 x 13''. We want to
extend it by additional 3-4'' on one wall. I'd like to add a small bathroom
to the room without sacrificing the room space. So the question is how small
can a bathroom and still remain comfortable. I remember in japanese hotels I
wondered how small the bathroom were, and even they had a bathtub. So the
size of the projected bathroom can be increased at expense of the sleep room
but I think it is better to have a bigger room...

Thanks for the answers. I'm still looking for the appropriate size...
Sammy



Pat July 2nd 05 02:06 AM


My suggestion is to combine the washstand with the toilet and shower,
as follows. Make a big hole in the floor to be the toilet and, at the
same time, to be a drain for water. Urinate and defecate into that
hole. Place a shower and a water faucet above that hole. When it is
time to wash your hands, simply use the faucet. For showering, simply
stand near the hole, being careful not to step into it. If you have
extra money, you can place a temporary grate above that hole when
showering, to avoid accidentally slipping into the hole. Keep a bucket
of water handy to wash down excrement and toilet paper after defecation.

i


Truly minimal bathroom however I think the original post only referred to a
minimal shower.



Dee July 2nd 05 06:39 AM

How about a corner shower, small pedestal sink and toilet?






Philip Lewis July 2nd 05 12:38 PM

"SammyBar" writes:
We have a small sleep room about 10 x 13''. We want to extend it by
additional 3-4'' on one wall.

Which wall?

add a small bathroom to the room without sacrificing the room space.

See, more info changes the approach some.

Knowing that it is a "subroom" and that you want to keep as much
bedroom space as possible means new possibilities are possible.

The shower can be in the corner of the room with the "step out of the
shower" space into the main bedroom itself. This is space that
doesn't have to be taken from the bedroom.

The sink can be in the bedroom itself. I've seen many vanities in
master bedrooms. This makes the sink area part of the bedroom space,
which means the bedroom space seems larger.

That leaves the toilet.

It all depends on what level of privacy/ventilation you require.
You might be able to get away with tucking it behind a half wall.
Certainly making the room appear larger.

Depending on code, you might have to classify the whole room as a
bathroom.... bathroom that you just happen to be able to sleep in.
(Heck, this might even lower your taxes, depending on how they
calculate it) This means all outlets will have to be GFCI protected.
(not too bad if you have 1 gfci and feed the rest from it)

Talk to your local building inspector to see if their are requirements
which would prevent you from doing this of course... S/he will have
knowledge of any problems with the plan.

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SammyBar July 2nd 05 02:28 PM

The shower can be in the corner of the room with the "step out of the
shower" space into the main bedroom itself. This is space that
doesn't have to be taken from the bedroom.

The sink can be in the bedroom itself. I've seen many vanities in
master bedrooms. This makes the sink area part of the bedroom space,
which means the bedroom space seems larger.

Really I don't like the idea of "mixing" the bathroom and the bedroom. Id'
like them totally separated. Anyway thanks for your comments. I appreciate
it.

Depending on code, you might have to classify the whole room as a
bathroom....

I wonder how much in the US you are worried about construction codes. In my
country (Mexico) nobody cares about them. I suppouse they should exists but
I never heard nobody mentioning them.



G Henslee July 2nd 05 02:31 PM

SammyBar wrote:



I wonder how much in the US you are worried about construction codes. In my
country (Mexico) nobody cares about them. I suppouse they should exists but
I never heard nobody mentioning them.



Well then maybe Ignoramus was onto something afterall...

Gordon Reeder July 3rd 05 04:48 AM

wrote in news:1120224937.874225.303930
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

Hi,

I'm planning to construct a small bathroom (washstand, toilet, and a
minmal shower) in a very reduced space. How can I arrange these three
pieces to minimize the space occupied by them? Can anybody point me to
some drawings?

Thanks in advance
Sammy


The smallest bathroom I have ever seen was on the ship I sailed
on durring my honeymoon. It was about three feet wide and four
feet long. A toilet was on one end, and a pedistal sink on the
other. As for the shower. There was a drain in the floor and
the room was completely tiled. A hand held shower was hung on
the wall between the toilet and sink. Basikly the bathroom was
the shower stall. Note, to keep the toilet paper from being
ruined when you shower you will need to mount the holder up
higher than usual. Not so high that you can't reach it while
sitting, but nearly so.

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at: myself.com

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RicodJour July 3rd 05 07:15 AM

wrote:

I'm planning to construct a small bathroom (washstand, toilet, and a
minmal shower) in a very reduced space. How can I arrange these three
pieces to minimize the space occupied by them? Can anybody point me to
some drawings?


http://www.646industries.com/beyond_...oiletsink.html

That saves some room - not sure how a plumbing inspector would feel
about it. It also saves water - you use it twice.

In some European countries they build wet bathrooms. There is no
separation/curb at the shower - just a shower curtain. Of course
there's a drain in the slightly sloped floor and the floor has to be
waterproofed. That allows you to push the curtain out of the way when
you're not showering and t opens up the space. Similar to how they do
it in smaller sailboats and RVs. If you want to go small that's the
way to do it.

All of this depends on whether you need a permit and plumbing
inspection and how the inspector will feel about all of this.

R


Philip Lewis July 3rd 05 02:10 PM


"RicodJour" writes:
http://www.646industries.com/beyond_...oiletsink.html


not sure why i didn't see this when i was google searching the other
day on the subject...
Some other links:
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/main...es/001553.html
http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/bath_...2flav_20combos
Then of course, there is the "Serenity" toilet/lav.
They are built into file cabinet like things... they just pull out
when needed. This of course, might just be the Firefly[*] art department
concept though. :)
[*] Good show, I can't wait to see the movie. ;)

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