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Gene
 
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Default Halogen under counter lights keep falling.. Need advice

These puck lights have no holes for screws and came with double sided
tape. After about 15 minutes they start falling. I have cleaned off
the old adhesive and tried again with the same results. Is there
possibly a glue I could use that would take the heat?
Thanks
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Gene wrote:
These puck lights have no holes for screws and came with double sided
tape. After about 15 minutes they start falling. I have cleaned off
the old adhesive and tried again with the same results. Is there
possibly a glue I could use that would take the heat?
Thanks


I am guessing that the problem is not the lights (although I think that
tape for a heat producing product like this is dumb) rather I believe the
problem is the surface under the cabinet which likely bare unfinished wood.
Maybe if you would screw a square of say, Plexiglas that the tape could
stick to under the cabinet it might work.

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Been there, done that, I once used similar lights, although not in the
kitchen.

Chuck the lights. Even if you manage to get them mounted securely, the
"pucks" will yellow and crack within 6 months.

When the bulbs burn out, and you twist the cover off to replace them,
the cover will split/crack; assuming it hasn't already fallen off
anyway.

Finally, these things radiate WAY too much heat out the back; they are
a fire waiting to happen.

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The surface is smmoth - like the front of the cabinets - melanite (sp)
?
On Thu, 26 May 2005 16:24:42 GMT, "Joseph Meehan"
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Gene wrote:
These puck lights have no holes for screws and came with double sided
tape. After about 15 minutes they start falling. I have cleaned off
the old adhesive and tried again with the same results. Is there
possibly a glue I could use that would take the heat?
Thanks


I am guessing that the problem is not the lights (although I think that
tape for a heat producing product like this is dumb) rather I believe the
problem is the surface under the cabinet which likely bare unfinished wood.
Maybe if you would screw a square of say, Plexiglas that the tape could
stick to under the cabinet it might work.


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Silicone RTV will take the heat it was used in WWII for seals on
searchlights in the Artic.

"Gene" wrote in message
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These puck lights have no holes for screws and came with double sided
tape. After about 15 minutes they start falling. I have cleaned off
the old adhesive and tried again with the same results. Is there
possibly a glue I could use that would take the heat?
Thanks





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Assuming you still want to use the lights after the other comments. Liquid
nails should work. I have found it to stick relatively well (but not
perfectly) to hard to stick plastics and is good for joining dissimilar
materials with irregular surfaces. It will stand up moderately well to heat
but I am not sure how long it will last with constant baking. Silicone RTV
has lousy holding power but will not soften with heat



"Gene" wrote in message
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These puck lights have no holes for screws and came with double sided
tape. After about 15 minutes they start falling. I have cleaned off
the old adhesive and tried again with the same results. Is there
possibly a glue I could use that would take the heat?
Thanks



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Scrappimg the lights is not an option. It is my Grandmothers house and
she is high lighting her crystal on two glass shelves, five deep. When
the lights are on, it looks great, just don't keep them on.
She doesn't keep them on all the time, just when company or such
comes. Forget the burning out, she may use them 5 hours a week.
On Thu, 26 May 2005 23:12:17 GMT, "AutoTracer"
wrote:

Assuming you still want to use the lights after the other comments. Liquid
nails should work. I have found it to stick relatively well (but not
perfectly) to hard to stick plastics and is good for joining dissimilar
materials with irregular surfaces. It will stand up moderately well to heat
but I am not sure how long it will last with constant baking. Silicone RTV
has lousy holding power but will not soften with heat



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These puck lights have no holes for screws and came with double sided
tape. After about 15 minutes they start falling. I have cleaned off
the old adhesive and tried again with the same results. Is there
possibly a glue I could use that would take the heat?
Thanks



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Gene wrote:
Scrappimg the lights is not an option. It is my Grandmothers house and
she is high lighting her crystal on two glass shelves, five deep.


Scrap the ones you have and replace them with some good ones.

When
the lights are on, it looks great, just don't keep them on.
She doesn't keep them on all the time, just when company or such
comes. Forget the burning out, she may use them 5 hours a week.
On Thu, 26 May 2005 23:12:17 GMT, "AutoTracer"
wrote:

Assuming you still want to use the lights after the other comments.
Liquid nails should work. I have found it to stick relatively well
(but not perfectly) to hard to stick plastics and is good for joining
dissimilar materials with irregular surfaces. It will stand up
moderately well to heat but I am not sure how long it will last with
constant baking. Silicone RTV has lousy holding power but will not
soften with heat



"Gene" wrote in message
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These puck lights have no holes for screws and came with double
sided tape. After about 15 minutes they start falling. I have
cleaned off the old adhesive and tried again with the same results.
Is there possibly a glue I could use that would take the heat?
Thanks


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Dia duit


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"Gene" wrote in message
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Scrappimg the lights is not an option. It is my Grandmothers house and
she is high lighting her crystal on two glass shelves, five deep.


The ones you have are not the only kind available. Home Depot, Lowe's, etc.,
carry dozens of varieties. Just handling and poking a couple of them will
tell you which ones mount correctly (meaning "no stupid tape or adhesives"),
and which ones will dissipate heat more readily.


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Gene wrote:

Scrappimg the lights is not an option. It is my Grandmothers house and
she is high lighting her crystal on two glass shelves, five deep. When
the lights are on, it looks great, just don't keep them on.
She doesn't keep them on all the time, just when company or such
comes. Forget the burning out, she may use them 5 hours a week.
On Thu, 26 May 2005 23:12:17 GMT, "AutoTracer"
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.....

The best answer would probably be to replace them with some w/ actual
mounting hardware as noted. An alternative besides the silicone that
might work and be less permanent would be the adhesive-backed velcro
pads.


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Why halogen? I've heard too much about halogen lights catching fire.
I admit I don't know the facts, but I just avoid halogen whenever I see it.
(Educate me if I'm worng, please.)

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So,t ake em apart, and make your own holes. Or use self drilling zip screws.

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These puck lights have no holes for screws and came with double sided
tape. After about 15 minutes they start falling. I have cleaned off
the old adhesive and tried again with the same results. Is there
possibly a glue I could use that would take the heat?
Thanks


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On Thu, 26 May 2005 19:02:54 GMT, "barbarow"
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Silicone RTV will take the heat it was used in WWII for seals on
searchlights in the Artic.

"Gene" wrote in message
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These puck lights have no holes for screws and came with double sided
tape. After about 15 minutes they start falling. I have cleaned off
the old adhesive and tried again with the same results. Is there
possibly a glue I could use that would take the heat?
Thanks


Silicone RTV worked like a charm, thanks barbarow!!
I used the high temp, over 700 degree stuff. What's great is that
it is hidden, no metal plates showing ( as one poster suggested) and
has held firm for weeks.
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