I have a wall mount mail box (Janzer), 21.5" H X 8.5" W X 8.5" W, pretty
heavy galvanized steel. I made a mistake and assumed I can remove the curb
side beat up mail box and mount near the door, and the mail man told me no
no no it has to be curb side.

So now I have to find a post for it.

This is not exactly the right model, but it looks like this, and has two
holes in the back for mounting.

http://www.mahvelousmailboxes.com/im...ilpost_310.jpg

I was going to use a 4x4 pressure treated wood, and paint it black (box
itself is black), dig a hole 18" to 24" and pour in some concrete to secure
at base.

But this contemporary box with 4x4 will look a little odd. I think.

So, I started to wonder about those galvanized steel fence posts. Suppose I
get one of those and mount the box on it instead, that will look better, I
think. The only question is:

(1) How I mount the box. With wood I can drill a hole all the way through
the 4x4 and secure with a long bolt on the other side. With a tubular post,
how will this work? I will need to drill two sets of holes right? One hole
for a short bolt, and the washer will be on the inside wall of the mail box.
But I need to somehow get to the bolt from the post side, to hold it, to
pass it through. I don't think a toggle bolt will be strong enough for this
application.

(2) Since the post is rounded, after mounting, the mail box will be attached
by two bolts. this roundness probably will cause extra stress to the bolt,
or the hole on the post. Will this be strong enough to hold the box, which
I think it's about 3 to 4 pounds without mail.

(3) Drilling holes on rounded pipe - I remember previously I had trouble
drilling holes on galvanized steel surfaces, I was using standard metal
bits. May not be the right ones? Those had trouble breaking into the
steel, now, I am talking about a ROUNDED galvanized steel surface, this will
be worse. How can I drill two nice holes on a galvanized pole 2-5/8 in
diameter? What bit should I use and how do I drill on a non-flat surface.

(4) With 4x4 I need to dig 18" to 24" and pour concrete. Do I need to for
the metal post? I can pound it much deeper (I hope), is there still a need
to have concrete?

(5) I will need to paint this black. I never tried painting on galvanized
steel. I guess it wouldn't be easy. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance,

MC

By the way, I also need to cut this post I suppose. I only have a compound
miter saw with wood blades. How do I cut a galvanized steel fence post to
length?

Thanks,

MC

"miamicuse" wrote in message
news
I have a wall mount mail box (Janzer), 21.5" H X 8.5" W X 8.5" W, pretty
heavy galvanized steel. I made a mistake and assumed I can remove the
curb
side beat up mail box and mount near the door, and the mail man told me no
no no it has to be curb side.

So now I have to find a post for it.

This is not exactly the right model, but it looks like this, and has two
holes in the back for mounting.


http://www.mahvelousmailboxes.com/im...ilpost_310.jpg

I was going to use a 4x4 pressure treated wood, and paint it black (box
itself is black), dig a hole 18" to 24" and pour in some concrete to
secure
at base.

But this contemporary box with 4x4 will look a little odd. I think.

So, I started to wonder about those galvanized steel fence posts. Suppose
I
get one of those and mount the box on it instead, that will look better, I
think. The only question is:

(1) How I mount the box. With wood I can drill a hole all the way through
the 4x4 and secure with a long bolt on the other side. With a tubular
post,
how will this work? I will need to drill two sets of holes right? One
hole
for a short bolt, and the washer will be on the inside wall of the mail
box.
But I need to somehow get to the bolt from the post side, to hold it, to
pass it through. I don't think a toggle bolt will be strong enough for
this
application.

(2) Since the post is rounded, after mounting, the mail box will be
attached
by two bolts. this roundness probably will cause extra stress to the bolt,
or the hole on the post. Will this be strong enough to hold the box,
which
I think it's about 3 to 4 pounds without mail.

(3) Drilling holes on rounded pipe - I remember previously I had trouble
drilling holes on galvanized steel surfaces, I was using standard metal
bits. May not be the right ones? Those had trouble breaking into the
steel, now, I am talking about a ROUNDED galvanized steel surface, this
will
be worse. How can I drill two nice holes on a galvanized pole 2-5/8 in
diameter? What bit should I use and how do I drill on a non-flat surface.

(4) With 4x4 I need to dig 18" to 24" and pour concrete. Do I need to for
the metal post? I can pound it much deeper (I hope), is there still a
need
to have concrete?

(5) I will need to paint this black. I never tried painting on galvanized
steel. I guess it wouldn't be easy. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance,

MC

miamicuse wrote:

I have a wall mount mail box (Janzer), 21.5" H X 8.5" W X 8.5" W, pretty
heavy galvanized steel. I made a mistake and assumed I can remove the curb
side beat up mail box and mount near the door, and the mail man told me no
no no it has to be curb side.

So now I have to find a post for it.

This is not exactly the right model, but it looks like this, and has two
holes in the back for mounting.

http://www.mahvelousmailboxes.com/im...ilpost_310.jpg

I was going to use a 4x4 pressure treated wood, and paint it black (box
itself is black), dig a hole 18" to 24" and pour in some concrete to secure
at base.

But this contemporary box with 4x4 will look a little odd. I think.

So, I started to wonder about those galvanized steel fence posts. Suppose I
get one of those and mount the box on it instead, that will look better, I
think. The only question is:

(1) How I mount the box. With wood I can drill a hole all the way through
the 4x4 and secure with a long bolt on the other side. With a tubular post,
how will this work? I will need to drill two sets of holes right? One hole
for a short bolt, and the washer will be on the inside wall of the mail box.
But I need to somehow get to the bolt from the post side, to hold it, to
pass it through. I don't think a toggle bolt will be strong enough for this
application.

(2) Since the post is rounded, after mounting, the mail box will be attached
by two bolts. this roundness probably will cause extra stress to the bolt,
or the hole on the post. Will this be strong enough to hold the box, which
I think it's about 3 to 4 pounds without mail.

(3) Drilling holes on rounded pipe - I remember previously I had trouble
drilling holes on galvanized steel surfaces, I was using standard metal
bits. May not be the right ones? Those had trouble breaking into the
steel, now, I am talking about a ROUNDED galvanized steel surface, this will
be worse. How can I drill two nice holes on a galvanized pole 2-5/8 in
diameter? What bit should I use and how do I drill on a non-flat surface.

(4) With 4x4 I need to dig 18" to 24" and pour concrete. Do I need to for
the metal post? I can pound it much deeper (I hope), is there still a need
to have concrete?

(5) I will need to paint this black. I never tried painting on galvanized
steel. I guess it wouldn't be easy. Any thoughts?

Your hardware store should have some stakes used for fence posts and
mailbox stands. These are designed to provide a foot for a 4x4. You
use a small piece of 4x4 and a sledge hammer to sink them in the ground.
They go down about 2 feet.

miamicuse wrote:

So now I have to find a post for it.

This is not exactly the right model, but it looks like this, and has two
holes in the back for mounting.

Be sure this is still an acceptable mailbox for curbside. Post officeis
fussy about things like that.




(1) How I mount the box. With wood I can drill a hole all the way
through
the 4x4 and secure with a long bolt on the other side. With a tubular
post,
how will this work? I will need to drill two sets of holes right? One
hole
for a short bolt, and the washer will be on the inside wall of the mail
box.
But I need to somehow get to the bolt from the post side, to hold it, to
pass it through. I don't think a toggle bolt will be strong enough for
this
application.

You can buy long bolts that would easily pass through the post.



(2) Since the post is rounded, after mounting, the mail box will be
attached
by two bolts. this roundness probably will cause extra stress to the
bolt,
or the hole on the post. Will this be strong enough to hold the box,
which
I think it's about 3 to 4 pounds without mail.

In the downward plane, yes. If you are suject to snow plows tossing snow at
it, questionable, but still probably better than the larger surface area or
traidional boxes.


(3) Drilling holes on rounded pipe - I remember previously I had trouble
drilling holes on galvanized steel surfaces, I was using standard metal
bits. May not be the right ones? Those had trouble breaking into the
steel, now, I am talking about a ROUNDED galvanized steel surface, this
will
be worse. How can I drill two nice holes on a galvanized pole 2-5/8 in
diameter? What bit should I use and how do I drill on a non-flat
surface.

Drill press makes it much easier and more controllable. Have a friend with
one? Neighbor? Worth asking around.



(4) With 4x4 I need to dig 18" to 24" and pour concrete. Do I need to
for
the metal post? I can pound it much deeper (I hope), is there still a
need
to have concrete?

Depends on the soil, but will probably hold fairly well.


(5) I will need to paint this black. I never tried painting on
galvanized
steel. I guess it wouldn't be easy. Any thoughts?

There is a primer for galvanized. Then normal paint over it.

Is the round shape more important than the square? Or is it a question of
metal versus wood? You can buy square metal tubing that would adress some
of your concerns with drilling and mounting strength.

miamicuse wrote:
I have a wall mount mail box (Janzer), 21.5" H X 8.5" W X 8.5" W, pretty
heavy galvanized steel. I made a mistake and assumed I can remove the curb
side beat up mail box and mount near the door, and the mail man told me no
no no it has to be curb side.

So now I have to find a post for it.

This is not exactly the right model, but it looks like this, and has two
holes in the back for mounting.

http://www.mahvelousmailboxes.com/im...ilpost_310.jpg

I was going to use a 4x4 pressure treated wood, and paint it black (box
itself is black), dig a hole 18" to 24" and pour in some concrete to secure
at base.

But this contemporary box with 4x4 will look a little odd. I think.

So, I started to wonder about those galvanized steel fence posts. Suppose I
get one of those and mount the box on it instead, that will look better, I
think. The only question is:

(1) How I mount the box. With wood I can drill a hole all the way through
the 4x4 and secure with a long bolt on the other side. With a tubular post,
how will this work? I will need to drill two sets of holes right? One hole
for a short bolt, and the washer will be on the inside wall of the mail box.
But I need to somehow get to the bolt from the post side, to hold it, to
pass it through. I don't think a toggle bolt will be strong enough for this
application.

I would get some U bolts and drill new holes in the back of
the box, one at the top and one at the bottom. You wouldn't
have to drill the post at all.

(2) Since the post is rounded, after mounting, the mail box will be attached
by two bolts. this roundness probably will cause extra stress to the bolt,
or the hole on the post. Will this be strong enough to hold the box, which
I think it's about 3 to 4 pounds without mail.

Thats why I would use U bolts.


(3) Drilling holes on rounded pipe - I remember previously I had trouble
drilling holes on galvanized steel surfaces, I was using standard metal
bits. May not be the right ones? Those had trouble breaking into the
steel, now, I am talking about a ROUNDED galvanized steel surface, this will
be worse. How can I drill two nice holes on a galvanized pole 2-5/8 in
diameter? What bit should I use and how do I drill on a non-flat surface.

(4) With 4x4 I need to dig 18" to 24" and pour concrete. Do I need to for
the metal post? I can pound it much deeper (I hope), is there still a need
to have concrete?

(5) I will need to paint this black. I never tried painting on galvanized
steel. I guess it wouldn't be easy. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance,

MC

Same depth for the post, whether pounded in or dug and concreted.

Use primer for galvanized materials and metal paint.

Cut the post with a hack saw or sawsall.

Before you do any of that, you had better contact the Post
Office and find out if they will deliver mail to that box.

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

"miamicuse" wrote in
message ...
By the way, ...


Why don't you just take it back and get the kind
you need? DOH

"Robert Allison" wrote in
message
Before you do any of that, you had better contact
the Post
Office and find out if they will deliver mail to
that box.

And while you are talking to them get the rules for
where you plant the mailbox and how high it is.
There is a rule for distance to the street from the
mailbox.

Not that easy. Got it special ordered, cost me $125 for that box, and it's
hard to find one I like.

"Kathy" wrote in message
...

"miamicuse" wrote in
message ...
By the way, ...


Why don't you just take it back and get the kind
you need? DOH

So what were you expecting, that the mailman would park his car and run up
to your door to deliver your mail?

It's questionable that the USPS will even accept this style mailbox as a
curb-side box. Hopefully you can return it and get a box that is acceptable
to them, or plan to be making trips to the post office to pick up your mail!


"miamicuse" wrote in message
news
I have a wall mount mail box (Janzer), 21.5" H X 8.5" W X 8.5" W, pretty
heavy galvanized steel. I made a mistake and assumed I can remove the
curb
side beat up mail box and mount near the door, and the mail man told me no
no no it has to be curb side.

So now I have to find a post for it.

This is not exactly the right model, but it looks like this, and has two
holes in the back for mounting.

http://www.mahvelousmailboxes.com/im...ilpost_310.jpg

I was going to use a 4x4 pressure treated wood, and paint it black (box
itself is black), dig a hole 18" to 24" and pour in some concrete to
secure
at base.

But this contemporary box with 4x4 will look a little odd. I think.

So, I started to wonder about those galvanized steel fence posts. Suppose
I
get one of those and mount the box on it instead, that will look better, I
think. The only question is:

(1) How I mount the box. With wood I can drill a hole all the way through
the 4x4 and secure with a long bolt on the other side. With a tubular
post,
how will this work? I will need to drill two sets of holes right? One
hole
for a short bolt, and the washer will be on the inside wall of the mail
box.
But I need to somehow get to the bolt from the post side, to hold it, to
pass it through. I don't think a toggle bolt will be strong enough for
this
application.

(2) Since the post is rounded, after mounting, the mail box will be
attached
by two bolts. this roundness probably will cause extra stress to the bolt,
or the hole on the post. Will this be strong enough to hold the box,
which
I think it's about 3 to 4 pounds without mail.

(3) Drilling holes on rounded pipe - I remember previously I had trouble
drilling holes on galvanized steel surfaces, I was using standard metal
bits. May not be the right ones? Those had trouble breaking into the
steel, now, I am talking about a ROUNDED galvanized steel surface, this
will
be worse. How can I drill two nice holes on a galvanized pole 2-5/8 in
diameter? What bit should I use and how do I drill on a non-flat surface.

(4) With 4x4 I need to dig 18" to 24" and pour concrete. Do I need to for
the metal post? I can pound it much deeper (I hope), is there still a
need
to have concrete?

(5) I will need to paint this black. I never tried painting on galvanized
steel. I guess it wouldn't be easy. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance,

MC

Well on our street, some home owners have curb side mail boxes and some have
wall mounted mail boxes. The mail man walks to the door and drops off the
mail to the wall mounted ones and drives up to the curb side ones. What I
did not know, is that once you switched to curb side (used to be all wall
mounts) you cannot go back.

These mail boxes do come in post mounted versions. The one I have looks
just the same, but smaller in size. Like below:

http://www.mailboxes-unlimited.com/i...jnzr710210.jpg

MC

"mwlogs" wrote in message
...
So what were you expecting, that the mailman would park his car and run up
to your door to deliver your mail?

It's questionable that the USPS will even accept this style mailbox as a
curb-side box. Hopefully you can return it and get a box that is
acceptable
to them, or plan to be making trips to the post office to pick up your
mail!


"miamicuse" wrote in message
news
I have a wall mount mail box (Janzer), 21.5" H X 8.5" W X 8.5" W, pretty
heavy galvanized steel. I made a mistake and assumed I can remove the
curb
side beat up mail box and mount near the door, and the mail man told me
no
no no it has to be curb side.

So now I have to find a post for it.

This is not exactly the right model, but it looks like this, and has two
holes in the back for mounting.


http://www.mahvelousmailboxes.com/im...ilpost_310.jpg

I was going to use a 4x4 pressure treated wood, and paint it black (box
itself is black), dig a hole 18" to 24" and pour in some concrete to
secure
at base.

But this contemporary box with 4x4 will look a little odd. I think.

So, I started to wonder about those galvanized steel fence posts.
Suppose
I
get one of those and mount the box on it instead, that will look better,
I
think. The only question is:

(1) How I mount the box. With wood I can drill a hole all the way
through
the 4x4 and secure with a long bolt on the other side. With a tubular
post,
how will this work? I will need to drill two sets of holes right? One
hole
for a short bolt, and the washer will be on the inside wall of the mail
box.
But I need to somehow get to the bolt from the post side, to hold it, to
pass it through. I don't think a toggle bolt will be strong enough for
this
application.

(2) Since the post is rounded, after mounting, the mail box will be
attached
by two bolts. this roundness probably will cause extra stress to the
bolt,
or the hole on the post. Will this be strong enough to hold the box,
which
I think it's about 3 to 4 pounds without mail.

(3) Drilling holes on rounded pipe - I remember previously I had trouble
drilling holes on galvanized steel surfaces, I was using standard metal
bits. May not be the right ones? Those had trouble breaking into the
steel, now, I am talking about a ROUNDED galvanized steel surface, this
will
be worse. How can I drill two nice holes on a galvanized pole 2-5/8 in
diameter? What bit should I use and how do I drill on a non-flat
surface.

(4) With 4x4 I need to dig 18" to 24" and pour concrete. Do I need to
for
the metal post? I can pound it much deeper (I hope), is there still a
need
to have concrete?

(5) I will need to paint this black. I never tried painting on
galvanized
steel. I guess it wouldn't be easy. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance,

MC

"mwlogs" wrote in message
...
So what were you expecting, that the mailman would park his car and run up
to your door to deliver your mail?

It's questionable that the USPS will even accept this style mailbox as a
curb-side box. Hopefully you can return it and get a box that is
acceptable to them, or plan to be making trips to the post office to pick
up your mail!

http://pe.usps.gov/text/dmm300/508.htm#wp1051804

3.2 Curbside Mailboxes
3.2.1 Manufacturer Specifications
Manufacturers of all mailboxes designed and made to be erected at the edge
of a roadway or curbside of a street and to be served by a carrier from a
vehicle on any city route, rural route, or highway contract route must
obtain approval of their products under USPS Standard 7, Mailboxes, City and
Rural Curbside. To receive these construction standards and drawings or
other information about the manufacture of curbside mailboxes, write to USPS
Engineering (see 608.8.0 for address). [D041.2.1]

3.2.2 Custom-Built Mailbox
The local postmaster may approve a curbside mailbox constructed by a
customer who, for aesthetic or other reasons, does not want to use an
approved manufactured box. The custom-built box must generally meet the same
standards as approved manufactured boxes for flag, size, strength, and
quality of construction. [D041.2.2]

3.2.3 Locked Box
A mailbox with a lock must have a slot that is large enough to accommodate
the customer's normal daily mail volume. The USPS neither opens a locked box
nor accepts a key for this purpose. [D041.2.9]

3.2.4 Mailbox Post
The post or other support for a curbside mailbox must be neat and of
adequate strength and size. The post may not represent effigies or
caricatures that tend to disparage or ridicule any person. The box may be
attached to a fixed or movable arm. [D041.2.6]

3.2.5 Advertising
Any advertising on a mailbox or its support is prohibited. [D041.2.5]

3.2.6 Location
Subject to state laws and regulations, a curbside mailbox must be placed to
allow safe and convenient delivery by carriers without leaving their
vehicles. The box must be on the right-hand side of the road in the
direction of travel of the carriers on any new rural route or highway
contract route, in all cases where traffic conditions are dangerous for the
carriers to drive to the left to reach the box, or where their doing so
would violate traffic

"Kathy" wrote Why don't you just take it back
and get the kind
you need? DOH
____________________

Exactly what I was thinking.

not so easy. Special ordered item not refundable. Plus, I will have to
look for a curb side one I like, most of these custom ordered ones are not
changeable.

"Bonnie" wrote in message
...

"Kathy" wrote Why don't you just take it back
and get the kind
you need? DOH
____________________

Exactly what I was thinking.

On Sat, 21 May 2005 11:14:28 -0400, "miamicuse"
wrote:

I have a wall mount mail box (Janzer), 21.5" H X 8.5" W X 8.5" W, pretty
heavy galvanized steel. I made a mistake and assumed I can remove the curb
side beat up mail box and mount near the door, and the mail man told me no
no no it has to be curb side.

So now I have to find a post for it.

Does it have to be mounted on a post? Is it acceptable to build
curbside a decorative brick/house decor gatepost/pillar to enclose
your mailbox ?