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GregS[_3_] January 20th 09 04:53 PM

House insulation testing ?
 
I am trying to think of the name of the outfit, person, or firm,
not associated with any insulation company, who tests the house
for leaks and does thermal imaging foR tips on
what to do. WHO DO I CALL ?

I know there was name for that.

GREG

GregS[_3_] January 20th 09 05:01 PM

House insulation testing ?
 
In article , (GregS) wrote:
I am trying to think of the name of the outfit, person, or firm,
not associated with any insulation company, who tests the house
for leaks and does thermal imaging foR tips on
what to do. WHO DO I CALL ?

I know there was name for that.

GREG


I get bombarded with insulation companies trying to search that.
I basically do this my self with fans and thermal guns, but
I need to tell someone where to look fo help.

They raised my natural gas rates last summer, then dropped them slightly
this month. Still about 11.5 MCF + 3.5 MCF distribution.

I bought propane yesterday for refill of $18, RIP OFF. They might not have filled thier tank since summer,
but the price should have come down with gasoline rates.

Its cold and my Gas bill was $150 last Dec.

greg

GregS[_3_] January 20th 09 06:51 PM

House insulation testing ?
 
In article , (GregS) wrote:
In article ,

(GregS) wrote:
I am trying to think of the name of the outfit, person, or firm,
not associated with any insulation company, who tests the house
for leaks and does thermal imaging foR tips on
what to do. WHO DO I CALL ?

I know there was name for that.

GREG


I get bombarded with insulation companies trying to search that.
I basically do this my self with fans and thermal guns, but
I need to tell someone where to look fo help.

They raised my natural gas rates last summer, then dropped them slightly
this month. Still about 11.5 MCF + 3.5 MCF distribution.

I bought propane yesterday for refill of $18, RIP OFF. They might not have
filled thier tank since summer,
but the price should have come down with gasoline rates.

Its cold and my Gas bill was $150 last Dec.



I found it on the DIY TV pages. Thats where I saw it first for about $100-$200

Professional Home Energy Auditor

http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/he_dia...274796,00.html

greg

GregS[_3_] January 20th 09 07:05 PM

House insulation testing ?
 
In article , (GregS) wrote:
In article ,

(GregS) wrote:
In article ,

(GregS) wrote:
I am trying to think of the name of the outfit, person, or firm,
not associated with any insulation company, who tests the house
for leaks and does thermal imaging foR tips on
what to do. WHO DO I CALL ?

I know there was name for that.

GREG


I get bombarded with insulation companies trying to search that.
I basically do this my self with fans and thermal guns, but
I need to tell someone where to look fo help.

They raised my natural gas rates last summer, then dropped them slightly
this month. Still about 11.5 MCF + 3.5 MCF distribution.

I bought propane yesterday for refill of $18, RIP OFF. They might not have
filled thier tank since summer,
but the price should have come down with gasoline rates.

Its cold and my Gas bill was $150 last Dec.



I found it on the DIY TV pages. Thats where I saw it first for about $100-$200

Professional Home Energy Auditor

http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/he_dia...3893_2274796,0
0.html



I'll tell a problem I have in my house. I have gone around with an IR gun many
times. Between the top of the walls and edge of the exterior ceiling, there is a cold
spot. IIts too hard to see whats happening and its difficult to examine
due to the angle of the roof. I COULD fix it by installing foam crown molding.
Thats what I have been thinking. There is probably some cold spot also in the corners
of the walls. The bottoms of the walls tend to be coldest near the bottom. Adding
insulated wall board, the name slips me, on the bottom third could fix that problem.

Putting spray foam insulation in my hollow wooden front door was the best thing
I did last year.

greg


ransley January 20th 09 07:10 PM

House insulation testing ?
 
On Jan 20, 10:53*am, (GregS) wrote:
I am trying to think of the name of the outfit, person, or firm,
not associated with any insulation company, who tests the house
for leaks and does thermal imaging foR tips on
what to do. WHO DO I CALL ?

I know there was name for that.

GREG


Heating cpmpanies often have equipment to do a blower door test for
about 300$ and you get a computer printout. Id say you need an energy
audit, your utility co may do it. 150$ how many square ft, what kind
of heat system. windows, what R values do you have. www.energystar.gov
is a good place to learn. 150 yr lucky I will pay maybe 3500.00 this
month.

GregS[_3_] January 20th 09 08:17 PM

House insulation testing ?
 
In article , ransley wrote:
On Jan 20, 10:53=A0am, (GregS) wrote:
I am trying to think of the name of the outfit, person, or firm,
not associated with any insulation company, who tests the house
for leaks and does thermal imaging foR tips on
what to do. WHO DO I CALL ?

I know there was name for that.

GREG


Heating cpmpanies often have equipment to do a blower door test for
about 300$ and you get a computer printout. Id say you need an energy
audit, your utility co may do it. 150$ how many square ft, what kind
of heat system. windows, what R values do you have. www.energystar.gov
is a good place to learn. 150 yr lucky I will pay maybe 3500.00 this
month.


$150 for December. Just under 8 MCF. The trouble is, I don't know what to believe
as there is a fault on the billing, cause I can't really tell if its estimated or actual.

1000 sq ft upstairs, and I partially insulated the basement, but don't
worry about keeping that up to temperature right now. I'm still remodling.
there is 1000 sq ft downstairs also. Parts of it are fully exposed to
the outside, or above ground.
Added at least R25 in attic, normal R11 in walls plus brick. Added 9,
all but one new windows installed myself this fall for about $1500.

I wanted to know the name of the test so I could refer a friend. he uses 4 times
what I use. My normal electricity bills are usually under $50 a month
with air conditioning, but can increas a bit if I get into using electric
heaters, especially the 4800 watt garage heater, separate from the house.
When I moved the old gas company was expensive, but the new company
is now charging what the old one was charging 4-5 years ago.
They say its comming down.

greg

GregS[_3_] January 20th 09 08:28 PM

House insulation testing ?
 
In article , (GregS) wrote:
In article ,
ransley wrote:
On Jan 20, 10:53=A0am, (GregS) wrote:
I am trying to think of the name of the outfit, person, or firm,
not associated with any insulation company, who tests the house
for leaks and does thermal imaging foR tips on
what to do. WHO DO I CALL ?

I know there was name for that.

GREG


Heating cpmpanies often have equipment to do a blower door test for
about 300$ and you get a computer printout. Id say you need an energy
audit, your utility co may do it. 150$ how many square ft, what kind
of heat system. windows, what R values do you have.
www.energystar.gov
is a good place to learn. 150 yr lucky I will pay maybe 3500.00 this
month.


Couple of others.
In Pittsburgh
Its been cold lately. I will see on my next bill how the weather compares to
last lears average temps. So far it looks like I hav improved overall somewhere
between 10-20 % savings. I have a natural gas Goodman 95+ forced air.

greg

Here we go........


$150 for December. Just under 8 MCF. The trouble is, I don't know what to
believe
as there is a fault on the billing, cause I can't really tell if its estimated
or actual.

1000 sq ft upstairs, and I partially insulated the basement, but don't
worry about keeping that up to temperature right now. I'm still remodling.
there is 1000 sq ft downstairs also. Parts of it are fully exposed to
the outside, or above ground.
Added at least R25 in attic, normal R11 in walls plus brick. Added 9,
all but one new windows installed myself this fall for about $1500.

I wanted to know the name of the test so I could refer a friend. he uses 4
times
what I use. My normal electricity bills are usually under $50 a month
with air conditioning, but can increas a bit if I get into using electric
heaters, especially the 4800 watt garage heater, separate from the house.
When I moved the old gas company was expensive, but the new company
is now charging what the old one was charging 4-5 years ago.
They say its comming down.

greg


dicko January 20th 09 09:40 PM

House insulation testing ?
 

On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:28:06 GMT, (GregS)
wrote:

In article ,
(GregS) wrote:
In article ,
ransley wrote:
On Jan 20, 10:53=A0am, (GregS) wrote:
I am trying to think of the name of the outfit, person, or firm,
not associated with any insulation company, who tests the house
for leaks and does thermal imaging foR tips on
what to do. WHO DO I CALL ?

I know there was name for that.

GREG

Heating cpmpanies often have equipment to do a blower door test for
about 300$ and you get a computer printout. Id say you need an energy
audit, your utility co may do it. 150$ how many square ft, what kind
of heat system. windows, what R values do you have.
www.energystar.gov
is a good place to learn. 150 yr lucky I will pay maybe 3500.00 this
month.


Couple of others.
In Pittsburgh
Its been cold lately. I will see on my next bill how the weather compares to
last lears average temps. So far it looks like I hav improved overall somewhere
between 10-20 % savings. I have a natural gas Goodman 95+ forced air.

greg

Here we go........


$150 for December. Just under 8 MCF. The trouble is, I don't know what to
believe
as there is a fault on the billing, cause I can't really tell if its estimated
or actual.

1000 sq ft upstairs, and I partially insulated the basement, but don't
worry about keeping that up to temperature right now. I'm still remodling.
there is 1000 sq ft downstairs also. Parts of it are fully exposed to
the outside, or above ground.
Added at least R25 in attic, normal R11 in walls plus brick. Added 9,
all but one new windows installed myself this fall for about $1500.

I wanted to know the name of the test so I could refer a friend. he uses 4
times
what I use. My normal electricity bills are usually under $50 a month
with air conditioning, but can increas a bit if I get into using electric
heaters, especially the 4800 watt garage heater, separate from the house.
When I moved the old gas company was expensive, but the new company
is now charging what the old one was charging 4-5 years ago.
They say its comming down.

greg


Here's a site with good info about blower door tests.
http://www.infiltec.com/inf-bd.htm

ransley January 21st 09 11:42 AM

House insulation testing ?
 
On Jan 20, 2:17*pm, (GregS) wrote:
In article , ransley wrote:





On Jan 20, 10:53=A0am, (GregS) wrote:
I am trying to think of the name of the outfit, person, or firm,
not associated with any insulation company, who tests the house
for leaks and does thermal imaging foR tips on
what to do. WHO DO I CALL ?


I know there was name for that.


GREG


Heating cpmpanies often have equipment to do a blower door test for
about 300$ and you get a computer printout. Id say you need an energy
audit, your utility co may do it. 150$ how many square ft, what kind
of heat system. windows, what R values do you have.www.energystar.gov
is a good place to learn. 150 yr lucky I will pay maybe 3500.00 this
month.


$150 for December. Just under 8 MCF. The trouble is, I don't know what to believe
as there is a fault on the billing, cause I can't really tell if its estimated or actual.

1000 sq ft upstairs, and I partially insulated the basement, but don't
worry about keeping that up to temperature right now. I'm still remodling..
there is 1000 sq ft downstairs also. Parts of it are fully exposed to
the outside, or above ground.
Added at least R25 in attic, normal R11 in walls plus brick. Added 9,
all but one new windows installed myself this fall for about $1500.

I wanted to know the name of the test so I could refer a friend. he uses 4 times
what I use. My normal electricity bills are usually under $50 a month
with air conditioning, but can increas a bit if I get into using electric
heaters, especially the 4800 watt garage heater, separate from the house.
When I moved the old gas company was expensive, but the new company
is now charging what the old one was charging 4-5 years ago.
They say its comming down.

greg- Hide quoted text -

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You need an energy audit, 150 is cheap how cold does it get there.
What is summer Ng bill for HW, cooking, dryer. 50$ electric with AC?
Thats real cheap also. Do you use CFLs

GregS[_3_] January 22nd 09 01:59 PM

House insulation testing ?
 
In article , ransley wrote:
On Jan 20, 2:17=A0pm, (GregS) wrote:
In article =

..com, ransley wrote:





On Jan 20, 10:53=3DA0am, (GregS) wrote:
I am trying to think of the name of the outfit, person, or firm,
not associated with any insulation company, who tests the house
for leaks and does thermal imaging foR tips on
what to do. WHO DO I CALL ?


I know there was name for that.


GREG


Heating cpmpanies often have equipment to do a blower door test for
about 300$ and you get a computer printout. Id say you need an energy
audit, your utility co may do it. 150$ how many square ft, what kind
of heat system. windows, what R values do you have.www.energystar.gov
is a good place to learn. 150 yr lucky I will pay maybe 3500.00 this
month.


$150 for December. Just under 8 MCF. The trouble is, I don't know what to=

believe
as there is a fault on the billing, cause I can't really tell if its esti=

mated or actual.

1000 sq ft upstairs, and I partially insulated the basement, but don't
worry about keeping that up to temperature right now. I'm still remodling=

..
there is 1000 sq ft downstairs also. Parts of it are fully exposed to
the outside, or above ground.
Added at least R25 in attic, normal R11 in walls plus brick. Added 9,
all but one new windows installed myself this fall for about $1500.

I wanted to know the name of the test so I could refer a friend. he uses =

4 times
what I use. My normal electricity bills are usually under $50 a month
with air conditioning, but can increas a bit if I get into using electric
heaters, especially the 4800 watt garage heater, separate from the house.
When I moved the old gas company was expensive, but the new company
is now charging what the old one was charging 4-5 years ago.
They say its comming down.

greg- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You need an energy audit, 150 is cheap how cold does it get there.
What is summer Ng bill for HW, cooking, dryer. 50$ electric with AC?
Thats real cheap also. Do you use CFLs



I use CFL's almost exclusively. I have 5 on all the time. Well I have been trying to
put automatic controls on the outside lamps. With another person my bills are
more like $60 average now. My electricity is about half what it was in the
old house.

I do not need an energy audit. Another person needed one and I was trying
to think of the term "energy audit". I know how to test my house.

greg

aemeijers January 28th 09 02:48 AM

House insulation testing ?
 
ransley wrote:
On Jan 20, 10:53 am, (GregS) wrote:
I am trying to think of the name of the outfit, person, or firm,
not associated with any insulation company, who tests the house
for leaks and does thermal imaging foR tips on
what to do. WHO DO I CALL ?

I know there was name for that.

GREG


Heating cpmpanies often have equipment to do a blower door test for
about 300$ and you get a computer printout. Id say you need an energy
audit, your utility co may do it. 150$ how many square ft, what kind
of heat system. windows, what R values do you have. www.energystar.gov
is a good place to learn. 150 yr lucky I will pay maybe 3500.00 this
month.


Like I whined the last few times this came up on here, nobody around
here offers testing services. I've asked heating companies and utility
companies, and while they all know what I am talking about, they all say
'we don't do that', and don't have anyone to refer me too.

So, item by item, I'm doing my best guess at 'best practices' to improve
things, on the cheap. Upgrade furnace, add 6" to attic, improve attic
venting, reputty windows and fix the storms, ad naseum. I know for
10-15 grand I could get major improvements, but I'd never get it back on
reduced bills before I sell, or in resale price. Next project, once I
figure a painless cheap way to do it, is to insulate exposed part of
foundation and crawlspace, currently a major heat loss spot. (raised ranch)

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aem sends....
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KLS January 28th 09 03:14 AM

House insulation testing ?
 
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:48:03 GMT, aemeijers wrote:

Next project, once I
figure a painless cheap way to do it, is to insulate exposed part of
foundation and crawlspace, currently a major heat loss spot. (raised ranch)


Painless, but maybe not cheap, would be to hire out a company to spray
polyurethane closed cell foam insulation in that area. I'm having a
company come out Thursday to give me a price on doing the box band of
my drafty 1930 house. I think this will return priceless dividends
and am hoping to get a quote under $1k (a colleague had his house done
for $700, but I'm not sure how large his house is relative to mine
other than it's smaller). The same colleague told me he found the
closed cell foam to be a far better insulator than the open cell
icynene stuff.


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