Help. My lawn is infested with clover. The lawn now has a blanket of
clover with small while flowers. Last week I sprayed Ortho's weed
killer using a garden host, but it doesn't seem to have made much
difference.
Any suggestions on what else I can do? Thanks for any suggestions.
-Mark Sabatini

On Jun 23, 12:56*pm, wrote:
Help. My lawn is infested with clover. The lawn now has a blanket of
clover with small while flowers. Last week I sprayed Ortho's weed
killer using a garden host, but it doesn't seem to have made much
difference.
Any suggestions on what else I can do? Thanks for any suggestions.

Clover is good for your lawn. It adds nitrogen to the soil. It feeds
the
bees. Leave it alone.

On Jun 23, 12:01*pm, Cindy Hamilton
wrote:
On Jun 23, 12:56*pm, wrote:

Help. My lawn is infested with clover. The lawn now has a blanket of
clover with small while flowers. Last week I sprayed Ortho's weed
killer using a garden host, but it doesn't seem to have made much
difference.
Any suggestions on what else I can do? Thanks for any suggestions.

Clover is good for your lawn. *It adds nitrogen to the soil. *It feeds
the bees. *Leave it alone.

Sometimes the clover can get out of hand and take over. Every 4 or 5
years I need to thin out the clover in my lawn but I don't try to get
rid of it completely. Any broad leaf weed killer should do the
trick. The OP must not have applied it correctly.

On Jun 24, 12:00*pm, WDS wrote:
On Jun 23, 12:01*pm, Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Jun 23, 12:56*pm, wrote:

Help. My lawn is infested with clover. The lawn now has a blanket of
clover with small while flowers. Last week I sprayed Ortho's weed
killer using a garden host, but it doesn't seem to have made much
difference.
Any suggestions on what else I can do? Thanks for any suggestions.

Clover is good for your lawn. *It adds nitrogen to the soil. *It feeds
the bees. *Leave it alone.

Sometimes the clover can get out of hand and take over. *Every 4 or 5
years I need to thin out the clover in my lawn but I don't try to get
rid of it completely. *Any broad leaf weed killer should do the
trick. *The OP must not have applied it correctly.

Ah, well, I have a diverse ecosystem in my yard. Some of it is grass.
The only thing I get annoyed about is thistles.

Cindy Hamilton

"Cindy Hamilton" ...
WDS wrote:
Cindy Hamilton :
, wrote:

Help. My lawn is infested with clover. The lawn now has a blanket of
clover with small while flowers. Last week I sprayed Ortho's weed
killer using a garden host, but it doesn't seem to have made much
difference.
Any suggestions on what else I can do? Thanks for any suggestions.

Clover is good for your lawn. It adds nitrogen to the soil. It feeds
the bees. Leave it alone.

Sometimes the clover can get out of hand and take over. Every 4 or 5
years I need to thin out the clover in my lawn but I don't try to get
rid of it completely. Any broad leaf weed killer should do the
trick. The OP must not have applied it correctly.

Ah, well, I have a diverse ecosystem in my yard. Some of it is grass.
The only thing I get annoyed about is thistles.
_______________________________________

Me too. I embrace the diversity.
Tomes

On Jun 24, 10:19 am, Cindy Hamilton
wrote:
On Jun 24, 12:00 pm, WDS wrote:



On Jun 23, 12:01 pm, Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

On Jun 23, 12:56 pm, wrote:

Help. My lawn is infested with clover. The lawn now has a blanket of
clover with small while flowers. Last week I sprayed Ortho's weed
killer using a garden host, but it doesn't seem to have made much
difference.
Any suggestions on what else I can do? Thanks for any suggestions.

Clover is good for your lawn. It adds nitrogen to the soil. It feeds
the bees. Leave it alone.

Sometimes the clover can get out of hand and take over. Every 4 or 5
years I need to thin out the clover in my lawn but I don't try to get
rid of it completely. Any broad leaf weed killer should do the
trick. The OP must not have applied it correctly.

Ah, well, I have a diverse ecosystem in my yard. Some of it is grass.
The only thing I get annoyed about is thistles.

Cindy Hamilton

I'm an older fellow. Clover used to be good, until someone found a
chemical that killed it but not the grass.
Now, if you have clover, the HOA sends you a nastygram calling you a
bad person.
So sad...

On Jun 26, 12:13*am, wrote:

I'm an older fellow. *Clover used to be good, until someone found a
chemical that killed it but not the grass.
Now, if you have clover, the HOA sends you a nastygram calling you a
bad person.
So sad...

No HOA for me. About 60 years ago this farmer decided to sell off
1-acre lots. Someone bought two of them, built a house on one of
them,
and there I am now, a 5-mile commute from my office.

Cindy Hamilton

On Jun 25, 11:13*pm, wrote:
I'm an older fellow. *Clover used to be good, until someone found a
chemical that killed it but not the grass.

2-4-D was invented in like 1946.

On Jun 26, 4:37*pm, WDS wrote:
On Jun 25, 11:13*pm, wrote:

I'm an older fellow. *Clover used to be good, until someone found a
chemical that killed it but not the grass.

2-4-D was invented in like 1946.

Clover is highly desirable.
It adds nitrogen to the soil.
It is immune to some pests such as the cinch bug.
It doesn't grow too high.
It survives cold weather and drought quite well.
The flowers can attract bees which is good for pollination of all
plant species.
A well known botanical type, local broadcaster and operator of a
nursery strongly recommends planting clover, not grass. The short
white flowered kind. (the white flowers can be chewed by the way; sans
chemicals of course). A local doctor has clover seeded the bare (cinch
bug damaged) patches of his front and rear gardens and it has grown in
nicely. Needs little cutting. We did the same some years ago and the
bare patches are gone.
The use of chemicals should be discouraged because they get into water
supplies, streams and lakes. In the shorter term some are not really
safe for children (or even adults) and/or pets. And we only have a
certain amount of water, eh?
There is a tendency these days to buy a can of something artificial
and squirt it around and then wonder why we have high rates of
breathing problems, cancer etc.
After WWII DDT was going to be the miracle insecticide and eliminate
all agricultural pests! DDT it is now being found in women's' breast
milk even in Arctic regions!

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:35:32 -0700 (PDT), terry
wrote:

On Jun 26, 4:37*pm, WDS wrote:
On Jun 25, 11:13*pm, wrote:

I'm an older fellow. *Clover used to be good, until someone found a
chemical that killed it but not the grass.

2-4-D was invented in like 1946.

Clover is highly desirable.
It adds nitrogen to the soil.
It is immune to some pests such as the cinch bug.
It doesn't grow too high.
It survives cold weather and drought quite well.
The flowers can attract bees which is good for pollination of all
plant species.
A well known botanical type, local broadcaster and operator of a
nursery strongly recommends planting clover, not grass. The short
white flowered kind. (the white flowers can be chewed by the way; sans
chemicals of course). A local doctor has clover seeded the bare (cinch
bug damaged) patches of his front and rear gardens and it has grown in
nicely. Needs little cutting. We did the same some years ago and the
bare patches are gone.

I love my clover, but I cannot seem to get ahead of a large broad-leaf
weed that's infesting part of my back yard and front yard. Makes me
crazy. Dandelions are easier for me to keep under control than this
crap. Haven't used any weed control products on the lawn, but I'm
getting close to doing it this year. I think the pestilence is
plaintain weed, and my knuckles and my back just can't conquer them
all.

KLS wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:35:32 -0700 (PDT), terry
wrote:

On Jun 26, 4:37 pm, WDS wrote:
On Jun 25, 11:13 pm, wrote:

I'm an older fellow. Clover used to be good, until someone found a
chemical that killed it but not the grass.
2-4-D was invented in like 1946.
Clover is highly desirable.
It adds nitrogen to the soil.
It is immune to some pests such as the cinch bug.
It doesn't grow too high.
It survives cold weather and drought quite well.
The flowers can attract bees which is good for pollination of all
plant species.
A well known botanical type, local broadcaster and operator of a
nursery strongly recommends planting clover, not grass. The short
white flowered kind. (the white flowers can be chewed by the way; sans
chemicals of course). A local doctor has clover seeded the bare (cinch
bug damaged) patches of his front and rear gardens and it has grown in
nicely. Needs little cutting. We did the same some years ago and the
bare patches are gone.

I love my clover, but I cannot seem to get ahead of a large broad-leaf
weed that's infesting part of my back yard and front yard. Makes me
crazy. Dandelions are easier for me to keep under control than this
crap. Haven't used any weed control products on the lawn, but I'm
getting close to doing it this year. I think the pestilence is
plaintain weed, and my knuckles and my back just can't conquer them
all.

The neighbors may give me dirty looks, but as long as it is green and
holds the dirt down, I don't really much care what it is. Had huge bare
spots this spring, put down patch kit, which took two months to kick in,
with this strange pale green broadleaf grass that holds enough water to
jam the mower up even 3 days after a rainfall. Hope it doesn't all die
off with the first frost.

Oh, yeah, the first stuff that came up from the expensive brand-name
patch kit was, you guessed it, clover.

--
aem sends....

On Jun 26, 11:37 am, WDS wrote:
On Jun 25, 11:13 pm, wrote:

I'm an older fellow. Clover used to be good, until someone found a
chemical that killed it but not the grass.

2-4-D was invented in like 1946.

I told you I was older....

Regardless of when it was invented, it may not have come into common
use until much later. I don't know. I DO know that clover was
common, and not a problem, until more recent years.

On Jun 26, 12:35 pm, terry wrote:
On Jun 26, 4:37 pm, WDS wrote:

On Jun 25, 11:13 pm, wrote:

I'm an older fellow. Clover used to be good, until someone found a
chemical that killed it but not the grass.

2-4-D was invented in like 1946.

Clover is highly desirable.
It adds nitrogen to the soil.
It is immune to some pests such as the cinch bug.
It doesn't grow too high.
It survives cold weather and drought quite well.
The flowers can attract bees which is good for pollination of all
plant species.
A well known botanical type, local broadcaster and operator of a
nursery strongly recommends planting clover, not grass. The short
white flowered kind. (the white flowers can be chewed by the way; sans
chemicals of course). A local doctor has clover seeded the bare (cinch
bug damaged) patches of his front and rear gardens and it has grown in
nicely. Needs little cutting. We did the same some years ago and the
bare patches are gone.
The use of chemicals should be discouraged because they get into water
supplies, streams and lakes. In the shorter term some are not really
safe for children (or even adults) and/or pets. And we only have a
certain amount of water, eh?
There is a tendency these days to buy a can of something artificial
and squirt it around and then wonder why we have high rates of
breathing problems, cancer etc.
After WWII DDT was going to be the miracle insecticide and eliminate
all agricultural pests! DDT it is now being found in women's' breast
milk even in Arctic regions!

Amen to all of the above!

On Jun 30, 8:40*pm, wrote:
On Jun 26, 11:37 am, WDS wrote:

On Jun 25, 11:13 pm, wrote:

I'm an older fellow. *Clover used to be good, until someone found a
chemical that killed it but not the grass.

2-4-D was invented in like 1946.

I told you I was older....

Regardless of when it was invented, it may not have come into common
use until much later. *I don't know. *I DO know that clover was
common, and not a problem, until more recent years.

Clover is still common and still, for the most part, not a problem.
Almost everyone I know has it in their lawns and it's no big deal.
Sometimes it can take over if the grass isn't doing well for some
reason though.

Some people are very, well, anal about their yards and can't stand
having one bit of non-grass in them. One of my old neighbors was like
that. They fertilized heavily all year 'round and watered (and mowed
(and weeded (and sprayed (and ...)))) endlessly. When they moved the
new neighbors took OK care of their lawn by normal standards but it
looked like h*ll after a few weeks because it wasn't being babied any
more. They couldn't figure out what was going on until I explained.

On Jul 1, 10:10 am, WDS wrote:

Regardless of when it was invented, it may not have come into common
use until much later. I don't know. I DO know that clover was
common, and not a problem, until more recent years.

Clover is still common and still, for the most part, not a problem.


You are quite correct. I somewhat misstated myself.

Clover never was, is not, and never will be a problem.
It is only considered to be a problem by some who choose to think it
is, and that attitude is encouraged by the chemical folks.

I like the stuff. The clover, I mean, not the chemicals.