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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
Why are bathroom exhaust fans mounted in the ceiling?
Wouldn't down low next to the toilet be a better location? Maybe even lower than the toilet and behind the toilet. Then the "smell" would go down and back instead of forward and up! |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
did you ever get a baloon at the store when you were a kid?
If you did you noticed it floated.......hum.... I think bath fans should blow air as well as suck air....... that way they can stir it up and get it moving....... just my idea..... thats why they invented matches....... jloomis "Bill" wrote in message ... Why are bathroom exhaust fans mounted in the ceiling? Wouldn't down low next to the toilet be a better location? Maybe even lower than the toilet and behind the toilet. Then the "smell" would go down and back instead of forward and up! |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
On May 30, 8:11 am, "Bill" wrote:
Why are bathroom exhaust fans mounted in the ceiling? Wouldn't down low next to the toilet be a better location? Maybe even lower than the toilet and behind the toilet. Then the "smell" would go down and back instead of forward and up! The reason is to remove the moisture produced by shower which if not removed will cause the ceiling paint to peel plus other deteration factors. So use your ceiling fan when bathing. or you'll have problems. |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
Why are bathroom exhaust fans mounted in the ceiling?
Wouldn't down low next to the toilet be a better location? Maybe even lower than the toilet and behind the toilet. Then the "smell" would go down and back instead of forward and up! Uhmmm... Because the fans are there to suck up the warm, wet air from your shower. They are NOT there to clear out your stinky butt gasses. -- Fight Usenet Spam!!! - http://improve-usenet.org:80/ Want a great newsgroup reader that will filter out the flood of newgroup spam? Try MesNews - http://www.mesnews.net/gb/ If you want your posts to be seen, DON'T USE GOOGLE GROUPS! |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
Bill wrote:
Why are bathroom exhaust fans mounted in the ceiling? Wouldn't down low next to the toilet be a better location? Maybe even lower than the toilet and behind the toilet. Then the "smell" would go down and back instead of forward and up! What smell? |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
On May 30, 9:11 am, "Bill" wrote:
Why are bathroom exhaust fans mounted in the ceiling? Wouldn't down low next to the toilet be a better location? Maybe even lower than the toilet and behind the toilet. Then the "smell" would go down and back instead of forward and up! You are in the company of great minds; Buckminster Fuller put the bathroom fan low under the sink in the Dymaxion House for this very reason. (http://www.bfi.org/node/548). Of course, the whole bathroom was a prefab copper capsule, and only one family has ever lived in a Dymaxion House, but apparently they quite liked the bathroom, so it must have worked. But as others have pointed out, the *code* requirement for fans in both bathrooms and kitchens is not for your olfactory comfort but to dispel moisture, which if unchecked will promote mold and rot. For code purposes I think you'll find any room with a sink needs a fan, yes this means all those bedrooms with toothbrushing sinks in the corner are bathrooms as far as electrical codes go. What careful scientific analysis went into this definition? Who knows. Having said all that I don't think code mandates the fan in the ceiling, just as in a kitchen you don't need a range hood. Although ceiling fans and range roods are probably most effective at removing vapor, I believe an exhaust fan anywhere in those rooms meets code requirements. But I'd check with the local inspector before I put the hole in the wall. Chip C Toronto |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
Claude Hopper (11) 5. ? wrote:
Bill wrote: Why are bathroom exhaust fans mounted in the ceiling? Wouldn't down low next to the toilet be a better location? Maybe even lower than the toilet and behind the toilet. Then the "smell" would go down and back instead of forward and up! Methane is lighter than air and floats to the ceiling. Methane is odorless, so what's the diff? |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
HeyBub wrote:
Claude Hopper (11) 5. ? wrote: Bill wrote: Why are bathroom exhaust fans mounted in the ceiling? Wouldn't down low next to the toilet be a better location? Maybe even lower than the toilet and behind the toilet. Then the "smell" would go down and back instead of forward and up! Methane is lighter than air and floats to the ceiling. Methane is odorless, so what's the diff? If the OP's that concerned about flatulant odors he could always scrounge around used building material yards and pick up an American Standard "Ventaway" toilet. (AKA in my youth as "The fart catcher.") Repair parts for them are still available. They stopped making them quite a few years ago, probably for water conservation reasons. They used running water to pull the air out of the bowl and send that air down the drain after the trap section of the toilet. IIRC you pulled up on the flush handle to turn on that water flow before you sat down. Pushing down on the handle to flush the toilet stopped the venting water flow. Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight. |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
Jeff Wisnia wrote:
Methane is lighter than air and floats to the ceiling. Methane is odorless, so what's the diff? If the OP's that concerned about flatulant odors he could always scrounge around used building material yards and pick up an American Standard "Ventaway" toilet. (AKA in my youth as "The fart catcher.") Repair parts for them are still available. They stopped making them quite a few years ago, probably for water conservation reasons. They used running water to pull the air out of the bowl and send that air down the drain after the trap section of the toilet. Wouldn't that suck your, you know, down the drain? That prospect scares the crap outta me! Oh. Maybe that's what it's for... |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
On May 30, 7:11*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
Jeff Wisnia wrote: Methane is lighter than air and floats to the ceiling. Methane is odorless, so what's the diff? If the OP's that concerned about flatulant odors he could always scrounge around used building material yards and pick up an American Standard "Ventaway" toilet. (AKA in my youth as "The fart catcher.") Repair parts for them are still available. They stopped making them quite a few years ago, probably for water conservation reasons. They used running water to pull the air out of the bowl and send that air down the drain after the trap section of the toilet. Wouldn't that suck your, you know, down the drain? That prospect scares the crap outta me! Oh. Maybe that's what it's for...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I have a toilet seat that I need to put on. I read the directions (I don't know why, but I did) and it says "retighten nuts after 2 weeks". Now THAT scares the cr*p out of me !!! |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
bathroom fans are not for smell removal. the reason they are required is to
remove shower and bath moisture. s "Bill" wrote in message ... Why are bathroom exhaust fans mounted in the ceiling? Wouldn't down low next to the toilet be a better location? Maybe even lower than the toilet and behind the toilet. Then the "smell" would go down and back instead of forward and up! |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
our master bath has no fan, and we've never had ANY problems with the
ceiling paint or texture. 24 years. s "Jack" wrote in message ... On May 30, 8:11 am, "Bill" wrote: Why are bathroom exhaust fans mounted in the ceiling? Wouldn't down low next to the toilet be a better location? Maybe even lower than the toilet and behind the toilet. Then the "smell" would go down and back instead of forward and up! The reason is to remove the moisture produced by shower which if not removed will cause the ceiling paint to peel plus other deteration factors. So use your ceiling fan when bathing. or you'll have problems. |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
If the OP's that concerned about flatulant odors he could always scrounge
around used building material yards and pick up an American Standard "Ventaway" toilet. (AKA in my youth as "The fart catcher.") Repair parts for them are still available. They stopped making them quite a few years ago, probably for water conservation reasons. They used running water to pull the air out of the bowl and send that air down the drain after the trap section of the toilet. Airplanes toilet also suck air out of the bowl. However it is not continuous action; you have to push a button when you need the wind (or whatever) suck out of you. |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
On May 30, 7:42 pm, Pat wrote:
On May 30, 7:11 pm, "HeyBub" wrote: Jeff Wisnia wrote: Methane is lighter than air and floats to the ceiling. Methane is odorless, so what's the diff? If the OP's that concerned about flatulant odors he could always scrounge around used building material yards and pick up an American Standard "Ventaway" toilet. (AKA in my youth as "The fart catcher.") Repair parts for them are still available. They stopped making them quite a few years ago, probably for water conservation reasons. They used running water to pull the air out of the bowl and send that air down the drain after the trap section of the toilet. Wouldn't that suck your, you know, down the drain? That prospect scares the crap outta me! Oh. Maybe that's what it's for...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I have a toilet seat that I need to put on. I read the directions (I don't know why, but I did) and it says "retighten nuts after 2 weeks". Now THAT scares the cr*p out of me !!! Calm down. I don't think they're talking about those nuts. R |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
On May 30, 9:11*am, "Bill" wrote:
Why are bathroom exhaust fans mounted in the ceiling? Wouldn't down low next to the toilet be a better location? Maybe even lower than the toilet and behind the toilet. Then the "smell" would go down and back instead of forward and up! Hot air rises. (i.e. 98.6 in a 70* room) |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
Just from a practical standpoint, unless the exhaust fan is located on
an exterior wall, it is easier to vent the fan if it is in the ceiling. Mounting the fan in an interior wall presents the problem of running the duct, presumably 3"-6", through the top plate of the wall. A ceiling mount allows you to duct to the outside via attic, or the space between joists. On May 30, 9:11*am, "Bill" wrote: Why are bathroom exhaust fans mounted in the ceiling? Wouldn't down low next to the toilet be a better location? Maybe even lower than the toilet and behind the toilet. Then the "smell" would go down and back instead of forward and up! |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
"HeyBub" wrote in message
m... Wouldn't that suck your, you know, down the drain? That prospect scares the crap outta me! Oh. Maybe that's what it's for... Yup... to scare the crap out of you req |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
On Jun 4, 12:40*am, GMDuggan wrote:
Just from a practical standpoint, unless the exhaust fan is located on an exterior wall, it is easier to vent the fan if it is in the ceiling. *Mounting the fan in an interior wall presents the problem of running the duct, presumably 3"-6", through the top plate of the wall. *A ceiling mount allows you to duct to the outside via attic, or the space between joists. On May 30, 9:11*am, "Bill" wrote: Why are bathroom exhaust fans mounted in the ceiling? Wouldn't down low next to the toilet be a better location? Maybe even lower than the toilet and behind the toilet. Then the "smell" would go down and back instead of forward and up!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Mounting the fan in an interior wall presents the problem of running the duct, presumably 3"-6", through the top plate of the wall. Through the top plate? How wide are your walls that you could run a 3" - 6" duct *through* the top plate? |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
"DerbyDad03" wrote in message ... On Jun 4, 12:40 am, GMDuggan wrote: Just from a practical standpoint, unless the exhaust fan is located on an exterior wall, it is easier to vent the fan if it is in the ceiling. Mounting the fan in an interior wall presents the problem of running the duct, presumably 3"-6", through the top plate of the wall. A ceiling mount allows you to duct to the outside via attic, or the space between joists. On May 30, 9:11 am, "Bill" wrote: Why are bathroom exhaust fans mounted in the ceiling? Wouldn't down low next to the toilet be a better location? Maybe even lower than the toilet and behind the toilet. Then the "smell" would go down and back instead of forward and up!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Mounting the fan in an interior wall presents the problem of running the duct, presumably 3"-6", through the top plate of the wall. Through the top plate? How wide are your walls that you could run a 3" - 6" duct *through* the top plate? I think that kind of implies what the problem is ----- If you try to run the duct up inside the wall and "through" the top plate you effectively destroy the top plate? |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
On Jun 11, 8:44*pm, "Doug Brown" wrote:
"DerbyDad03" wrote in message ... On Jun 4, 12:40 am, GMDuggan wrote: Just from a practical standpoint, unless the exhaust fan is located on an exterior wall, it is easier to vent the fan if it is in the ceiling. Mounting the fan in an interior wall presents the problem of running the duct, presumably 3"-6", through the top plate of the wall. A ceiling mount allows you to duct to the outside via attic, or the space between joists. On May 30, 9:11 am, "Bill" wrote: Why are bathroom exhaust fans mounted in the ceiling? Wouldn't down low next to the toilet be a better location? Maybe even lower than the toilet and behind the toilet. Then the "smell" would go down and back instead of forward and up!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Mounting the fan in an interior wall presents the problem of running the duct, presumably 3"-6", through the top plate of the wall. Through the top plate?How wide are your wallsthat you could run a 3" - 6" duct *through* the top plate? I think that kind of implies what the problem is ----- If you try to run the duct up inside the wall and "through" the top plate you effectively destroy the top plate?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I read the problem to be that it would be *harder* to run the vent through the top plate than to simply run it into the attic through the ceiling, like it would be harder to run a wire through the top plate than to run it through the ceiling. I don't consider a complete severing of the top plate to be "through it". I believe "through" implies that there is some material left surrounding the hole. |
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Why are bathroom fans in ceiling?
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jun 11, 8:44 pm, "Doug Brown" wrote: "DerbyDad03" wrote in message ... On Jun 4, 12:40 am, GMDuggan wrote: Just from a practical standpoint, unless the exhaust fan is located on an exterior wall, it is easier to vent the fan if it is in the ceiling. Mounting the fan in an interior wall presents the problem of running the duct, presumably 3"-6", through the top plate of the wall. A ceiling mount allows you to duct to the outside via attic, or the space between joists. On May 30, 9:11 am, "Bill" wrote: Why are bathroom exhaust fans mounted in the ceiling? Wouldn't down low next to the toilet be a better location? Maybe even lower than the toilet and behind the toilet. Then the "smell" would go down and back instead of forward and up!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Mounting the fan in an interior wall presents the problem of running the duct, presumably 3"-6", through the top plate of the wall. Through the top plate?How wide are your wallsthat you could run a 3" - 6" duct *through* the top plate? I think that kind of implies what the problem is ----- If you try to run the duct up inside the wall and "through" the top plate you effectively destroy the top plate?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I read the problem to be that it would be *harder* to run the vent through the top plate than to simply run it into the attic through the ceiling, like it would be harder to run a wire through the top plate than to run it through the ceiling. I don't consider a complete severing of the top plate to be "through it". I believe "through" implies that there is some material left surrounding the hole. The reason the fan is there or required is for moisture not smells. It's called a "fart fan" as a joke. The moisture occurs from shower/bathing and usually rises because of the warmth. The codes usually specify a certain amount of "air changes" per hour for an exhaust fan. -- |
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