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On Nov 8, 3:34 pm, Joe wrote:
Video viahttp://Muvy.org

which points to ...

FLIR thermal infrared imaging home inspection, energy camera
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jXPXE0qsmjg


fyi: In the above video the IR inspection company
is using the following tool

RAZIR (Sierra Pacific Innovations) FLIR camera
http://www.thermcam.com/

I saw this particular FLIR camera priced
at 12,499.00 USD by this one particular
instrumentation company and they were
also charging 145.00 usd for a spare battery!

Fluke Ti20 at 6495 USD was less expensive but
its does not do all the fancy things that the RAZIR
does ( the RAZIR connect to your laptop with a USB
port)

drydem wrote:
On Nov 8, 3:34 pm, Joe wrote:
Video viahttp://Muvy.org

which points to ...

FLIR thermal infrared imaging home inspection, energy camera
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jXPXE0qsmjg


fyi: In the above video the IR inspection company
is using the following tool

RAZIR (Sierra Pacific Innovations) FLIR camera
http://www.thermcam.com/

I saw this particular FLIR camera priced
at 12,499.00 USD by this one particular
instrumentation company and they were
also charging 145.00 usd for a spare battery!

Fluke Ti20 at 6495 USD was less expensive but
its does not do all the fancy things that the RAZIR
does ( the RAZIR connect to your laptop with a USB
port)

Now if I could just find a company in this small town that had one (ANY
sort of IR camera), and could come out and do a walkaround for me. It'd
be worth a C-note to me to be able to target my limited repair funds at
the worst leaks.

aem sends...

In aemeijers writes:

Now if I could just find a company in this small town that had one (ANY
sort of IR camera), and could come out and do a walkaround for me. It'd
be worth a C-note to me to be able to target my limited repair funds at
the worst leaks.

For the hell of it, call your local fire department
folk. They just might have one.


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"aemeijers" wrote in message
...

Now if I could just find a company in this small town that had one (ANY sort of IR
camera), and could come out and do a walkaround for me. It'd be worth a C-note to me to
be able to target my limited repair funds at the worst leaks.

Some digital cameras and webcams already respond to IR.

There are various instructions around on how to convert them into IR cameras.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/395292...igital_camera/

No thanks are necessary. Just send me the C-note.

Don

Don K wrote:
"aemeijers" wrote in message
...

Now if I could just find a company in this small town that had one (ANY sort of IR
camera), and could come out and do a walkaround for me. It'd be worth a C-note to me to
be able to target my limited repair funds at the worst leaks.

Some digital cameras and webcams already respond to IR.

There are various instructions around on how to convert them into IR cameras.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/395292...igital_camera/

No thanks are necessary. Just send me the C-note.

Don


Interesting- a 'Red Green' solar eclipse/welding viewer. Too bad my toy
digital doesn't have a protruding lens. I'll have to stare at my digital
camera and my box of old odd fittings from my collection of 'real' (aka
film) cameras and see if anything jumps out at me.

Maybe make one big enough to hold entire camera, with a tripod screw on
the bottom, and a drape to go over by head, like on an old plate camera?....

aem sends...

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:04:47 GMT, aemeijers wrote:

Some digital cameras and webcams already respond to IR.

There are various instructions around on how to convert them into IR cameras.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/395292...igital_camera/

No thanks are necessary. Just send me the C-note.

Don


Interesting- a 'Red Green' solar eclipse/welding viewer. Too bad my toy
digital doesn't have a protruding lens. I'll have to stare at my digital
camera and my box of old odd fittings from my collection of 'real' (aka
film) cameras and see if anything jumps out at me.

The IR response of a digital camera is useless for thermal imaging. This response
maybe extends as far downward as 1.2 microns. Thermal imaging cameras respond to
very long wave IR in the 8 to 14 micron range. The usual imager is an array of
microbolometers that measures actual heating at each pixel and not a CCD or CMOS
device. The better ones use cooled arrays to reduce ambient thermal noise.

The reason thermal imagers are so expensive is that glass cannot be used for lens
material, as it doesn't pass longwave radiation. The traditional lens material is
pure germanium. Just the lens for the thermal imager I used to own cost almost $20k.
I understand that calcium fluoride has become a popular lens material and is
responsible for driving the cost down.

One other comment while I'm here. Handheld or fixed mount IR imaging cameras are NOT
FLIR, though there is a company that as adopted the military acronym as its name.
Forward Looking InfraRed refers to the technology used on planes and helicopters. The
imaging system used in these applications is as much different from the handheld
units as a handycam is to an HiDef studio camera.

I once bought two FLIRs for one of the "B" bombers (B1 or B2, I can't recall now) at
a DMRO surplus sale. Probably one of those sales of strategically sensitive
technology that Congress got its panties in a wad about.

This thing was over 4 ft long and probably 2 ft in diameter and required a forklift
to move. All the optics were germanium including the massive objective lens that was
probably a foot in diameter. It had cooled gold-plated copper AZ-EL mirrors on
frighteningly fast servo mechanisms. The imager itself was cooled somehow -
thermoelectric or sterling, probably. My casual testing showed that it could resolve
a half a degree F between two bodies.

The output was incredible. No smearing or blooming like civilian imagers. Razor
sharp crispness. Full 30 hz frame rate. It had several video output formats
including composite which I used to drive a B&W monitor.

I played with one of them for awhile and then sold them for mucho $$$ to a PCB
manufacturing company that used them for high speed inspection of boards during
burn-in.

John
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Risk: $20 hooker, year old condom.

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:09:48 -0500, "Don K"
wrote:

"aemeijers" wrote in message
...

Now if I could just find a company in this small town that had one (ANY sort of IR
camera), and could come out and do a walkaround for me. It'd be worth a C-note to me to
be able to target my limited repair funds at the worst leaks.

Some digital cameras and webcams already respond to IR.

There are various instructions around on how to convert them into IR cameras.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/395292...igital_camera/

No thanks are necessary. Just send me the C-note.

Unfortunately, they can only be converted to near infaread(light) nor
far infaread(heat).

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SEE YA !!!
Trygve Lillefosse
AKA - Malawi, The Fisher King

"Trygve Lillefosse" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:09:48 -0500, "Don K"
wrote:

"aemeijers" wrote in message
...

Now if I could just find a company in this small town that had one (ANY sort of IR
camera), and could come out and do a walkaround for me. It'd be worth a C-note to me
to
be able to target my limited repair funds at the worst leaks.

Some digital cameras and webcams already respond to IR.

There are various instructions around on how to convert them into IR cameras.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/395292...igital_camera/

No thanks are necessary. Just send me the C-note.

Unfortunately, they can only be converted to near infaread(light) nor
far infaread(heat).

Oh well. I thought we were onto something.
So near, and yet so far.

Don

aemeijers wrote:
drydem wrote:

On Nov 8, 3:34 pm, Joe wrote:

Video viahttp://Muvy.org


which points to ...

FLIR thermal infrared imaging home inspection, energy camera
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jXPXE0qsmjg


fyi: In the above video the IR inspection company
is using the following tool

RAZIR (Sierra Pacific Innovations) FLIR camera
http://www.thermcam.com/

I saw this particular FLIR camera priced
at 12,499.00 USD by this one particular
instrumentation company and they were
also charging 145.00 usd for a spare battery!

Fluke Ti20 at 6495 USD was less expensive but
its does not do all the fancy things that the RAZIR
does ( the RAZIR connect to your laptop with a USB
port)

Now if I could just find a company in this small town that had one (ANY
sort of IR camera), and could come out and do a walkaround for me. It'd
be worth a C-note to me to be able to target my limited repair funds at
the worst leaks.

Or just get an IR thermometer for about $50. I recommend the mini temps,
most have a laser pointer so you can see where you are reading the
temperature. You'll just scan the house and you'll see the actual
temperature on the readout. You won't get the big picture, but you'll
get the job done for a lot less. Mine (Raytek MT4) has an 8 to 1 beam
spread (1' circle at 8' distance, or 1" at 8") but you can get them
tighter. Don't go broader.

You can look for gaps in insulation or even air leaks around doors.
Highly usefull.

Jeff


aem sends...

On Nov 11, 9:31 am, Jeff wrote:

Or just get an IR thermometer for about $50. I recommend the mini temps,
most have a laser pointer so you can see where you are reading the
temperature. You'll just scan the house and you'll see the actual
temperature on the readout. You won't get the big picture, but you'll
get the job done for a lot less. Mine (Raytek MT4) has an 8 to 1 beam
spread (1' circle at 8' distance, or 1" at 8") but you can get them
tighter. Don't go broader.

You can also use the IR thermometer in the kitchen to check the
temperature of soups, hot chocalate, frying pans, etc.

--
Ron

"Jeff" wrote
Or just get an IR thermometer for about $50. I recommend the mini temps,
most have a laser pointer so you can see where you are reading the
temperature.

These are generally available at higher end auto parts places; I've seen
techs use them and it is amazing.......


You'll just scan the house and you'll see the actual
temperature on the readout. You won't get the big picture, but you'll get
the job done for a lot less. Mine (Raytek MT4) has an 8 to 1 beam spread
(1' circle at 8' distance, or 1" at 8") but you can get them tighter.
Don't go broader.

You can look for gaps in insulation or even air leaks around doors. Highly
usefull.

Jeff


aem sends...

Huh . . . I used to build 'em back in the late 70's & early 80's for the
military . . .
They'd pay between $250,000 and $1.4 million, depending on the bells &
whistles that came with 'em.

Prices have certainly dropped . . .

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