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Do multimeters "wear out" after so many years? Fluke vs. Ideal, Wavetek??
Noticed that old Fluke meters are selling for $50-$80 whereas
comparable Wavetek meters, same features, sell for $10-$30. Any suggestions on whether the extra cost of a used Fluke is worth it, over Wavetek? Also, is the Ideal multimeter really a Wavektek? (Buttons are in the same position, same functions.) But, why cheaper? |
I have 2 8060A meters, an 8050 and 8000. The 8060As are the work
horses. Very reliable and tough to break. Only problem with one after 15 years was the MAC chip (40 pin A/D and switching came partly unplugged and died) Fluke no longer repairs these and no parts are available. Got a broken one on eBay, which had a good MAC chip and all is well. I've used Waveteks at work and they're OK but I want my Fluke. GG |
wrote in message oups.com... Noticed that old Fluke meters are selling for $50-$80 whereas comparable Wavetek meters, same features, sell for $10-$30. Any suggestions on whether the extra cost of a used Fluke is worth it, over Wavetek? Also, is the Ideal multimeter really a Wavektek? (Buttons are in the same position, same functions.) But, why cheaper? It's more a matter of reliability, durability, accuracy and serviceability. Meters don't so much "wear out", rather they tend to get zapped by excessive voltage, dropped, crushed, banged around, and calibration drifts with age. Just about anyone in the electronics field will tell you to get a Fluke. That said, watch out for some of the new low end Fluke stuff, it's made in China these days. |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:04:16 GMT, "James Sweet"
put finger to keyboard and composed: wrote in message roups.com... Noticed that old Fluke meters are selling for $50-$80 whereas comparable Wavetek meters, same features, sell for $10-$30. Any suggestions on whether the extra cost of a used Fluke is worth it, over Wavetek? Also, is the Ideal multimeter really a Wavektek? (Buttons are in the same position, same functions.) But, why cheaper? It's more a matter of reliability, durability, accuracy and serviceability. Meters don't so much "wear out", rather they tend to get zapped by excessive voltage, dropped, crushed, banged around, and calibration drifts with age. Just about anyone in the electronics field will tell you to get a Fluke. .... except me. I have a PM97 Scopemeter which cost me AU$2750 but which has been a POS from day one. Just get yourself a cheap DMM and calibrate it against a 5.000V reference. See this simple calibration circuit based on a MAX6350 5.000V reference IC. This chip has a claimed 0.02% accuracy (5.000 +/- 0.001V): http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_30853/article.html That said, watch out for some of the new low end Fluke stuff, it's made in China these days. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email. |
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Buy a Fluke....if your serious about reliability.... |
My Beckman 223 died suddenly the other day.
Wa-ah! I tried to turn it on, nothing. Hmmm. Had a fresh battery, I thought. Opened it up. Battery was fairly warm. Main processor IC, however, was almost hot enough to burn my finger. Darn shame - it was a good one for 15 years or so. Limping along with a Radio Shack meter 'til I decide what to buy. Mark Z. wrote in message oups.com... I have 2 8060A meters, an 8050 and 8000. The 8060As are the work horses. Very reliable and tough to break. Only problem with one after 15 years was the MAC chip (40 pin A/D and switching came partly unplugged and died) Fluke no longer repairs these and no parts are available. Got a broken one on eBay, which had a good MAC chip and all is well. I've used Waveteks at work and they're OK but I want my Fluke. GG |
"Mark D. Zacharias" writes:
My Beckman 223 died suddenly the other day. Wa-ah! My Lafayette VOM is about 35 years old and still going strong. It has a needle. :) --- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ Mirror: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/ Repair | Main Table of Contents: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/REPAIR/ +Lasers | Sam's Laser FAQ: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/sam/lasersam.htm | Mirror Sites: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/REPAIR/F_mirror.html Note: These links are hopefully temporary until we can sort out the excessive traffic on Repairfaq.org. Important: Anything sent to the email address in the message header above is ignored unless my full name is included in the subject line. Or, you can contact me via the Feedback Form in the FAQs. |
I got a Fluke 83 brand new . It has seen little use and sits in a drawer
in my desk & gets used a bit still & still looks like new . the problem it has is .. when i turn it off it makes strange clicking sounds till i move the switch on then back off . many times when i turn it on it is on some wrong range , once again moving the switch one range then back clears it up . I have taken itapart & cleaned the switch and checked for loose solder e.t.c. & never found the problem . I took it to or local Fluke dealer repair center and they could not get it to act up . |
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Sam Goldwasser wrote: My Lafayette VOM is about 35 years old and still going strong. It has a needle. :) But if a high impedance input, presumably a valve type so mains operated? I love - and collect - old test gear, but the fact remains that you'll get modern equivalents which fit in the hand, rather than the bay, which are more accurate and work off a battery. ;-) -- *How about "never"? Is "never" good for you? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article 1112531344.61de406341a159d8d06ab9d4edf0b9e3@teran ews, Mark D. Zacharias wrote: My Beckman 223 died suddenly the other day. Wa-ah! I tried to turn it on, nothing. Hmmm. Had a fresh battery, I thought. Opened it up. Battery was fairly warm. Main processor IC, however, was almost hot enough to burn my finger. Darn shame - it was a good one for 15 years or so. Limping along with a Radio Shack meter 'til I decide what to buy. I had a trusty old Maplin (chain similar to Radio Shack?) blow up when measuring 240 volt AC. On opening it up, the cause was brass dust from the slip rings bridging tracks. And since it was rarely used on high voltage stuff it was ok until then. All it took was a couple of transistors - which of course had house markings only. Replaced them with a guess and re-calibrated it and it's been ok for none critical stuff. But treated myself to a Fluke 179 which is super. In the UK it costs about 200 gbp. Bet it's half that in the US. ;-) I just checked, they're available over here for about $200, so yeah, almost exactly half. I would guess one could be ordered from a US supplier? I know a number of those places will ship overseas and I imagine you'd still come out ahead even with shipping. |
"Sam Goldwasser" wrote in message ... "Mark D. Zacharias" writes: My Beckman 223 died suddenly the other day. Wa-ah! My Lafayette VOM is about 35 years old and still going strong. It has a needle. :) --- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ Mirror: I have an Eico I built in tech school which has a large analog meter. 20kOhms per volt. Measures a bit too high on DC voltages. Always have to switch leads around to measure different polarity voltages. Have to interpret readings of several dial scales, etc. Too lazy for this anymore. Just give me a good digital! Mark Z. |
"Dave Plowman (News)" writes:
In article , Sam Goldwasser wrote: My Lafayette VOM is about 35 years old and still going strong. It has a needle. :) But if a high impedance input, presumably a valve type so mains operated? No, 30,000 ohms/V, no active components, ohms use a battery. I love - and collect - old test gear, but the fact remains that you'll get modern equivalents which fit in the hand, rather than the bay, which are more accurate and work off a battery. ;-) The Lafayette get's used daily; my Fluke 89 usually stays in the closet. For a lot of things, accuracy isn't the main criteria. --- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ Mirror: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/ Repair | Main Table of Contents: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/REPAIR/ +Lasers | Sam's Laser FAQ: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/sam/lasersam.htm | Mirror Sites: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/REPAIR/F_mirror.html Note: These links are hopefully temporary until we can sort out the excessive traffic on Repairfaq.org. Important: Anything sent to the email address in the message header above is ignored unless my full name is included in the subject line. Or, you can contact me via the Feedback Form in the FAQs. |
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Sam Goldwasser wrote: My Lafayette VOM is about 35 years old and still going strong. It has a needle. :) But if a high impedance input, presumably a valve type so mains operated? No, 30,000 ohms/V, no active components, ohms use a battery. That's good for an analogue meter. The UK equivalent would be the good ol' AVO Model 8 which only manages 20k ohms/volt on DC, but also lasts forever. I love - and collect - old test gear, but the fact remains that you'll get modern equivalents which fit in the hand, rather than the bay, which are more accurate and work off a battery. ;-) The Lafayette get's used daily; my Fluke 89 usually stays in the closet. For a lot of things, accuracy isn't the main criteria. Indeed, a low input impedance meter has a lot going for it in many day to day measurements. And of course a swinging meter needle can often tell more than a digital readout. And is very difficult to blow into the middle of next week. ;-) -- *If horrific means to make horrible, does terrific mean to make terrible? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
"Dave Plowman (News)" writes:
In article , Sam Goldwasser wrote: My Lafayette VOM is about 35 years old and still going strong. It has a needle. :) But if a high impedance input, presumably a valve type so mains operated? No, 30,000 ohms/V, no active components, ohms use a battery. That's good for an analogue meter. The UK equivalent would be the good ol' AVO Model 8 which only manages 20k ohms/volt on DC, but also lasts forever. I love - and collect - old test gear, but the fact remains that you'll get modern equivalents which fit in the hand, rather than the bay, which are more accurate and work off a battery. ;-) The Lafayette get's used daily; my Fluke 89 usually stays in the closet. For a lot of things, accuracy isn't the main criteria. Indeed, a low input impedance meter has a lot going for it in many day to day measurements. And of course a swinging meter needle can often tell more than a digital readout. And is very difficult to blow into the middle of next week. ;-) This Lafayette appears to be very well protected. I've done numerous stupid things with it and the only casualties have been a couple blown resistors and a blown trace on the switch PCB. The meter itself was never affected. --- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ Mirror: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/ Repair | Main Table of Contents: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/REPAIR/ +Lasers | Sam's Laser FAQ: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/sam/lasersam.htm | Mirror Sites: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/REPAIR/F_mirror.html Note: These links are hopefully temporary until we can sort out the excessive traffic on Repairfaq.org. Important: Anything sent to the email address in the message header above is ignored unless my full name is included in the subject line. Or, you can contact me via the Feedback Form in the FAQs. |
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... Indeed, a low input impedance meter has a lot going for it in many day to day measurements. And of course a swinging meter needle can often tell more than a digital readout. And is very difficult to blow into the middle of next week. ;-) I used a DVM to check for leakage on an AC line and got false readings. A 'real' meter worked better. -- N |
"NSM" wrote in message news:xAl4e.155656$gJ3.78397@clgrps13... "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... Indeed, a low input impedance meter has a lot going for it in many day to day measurements. And of course a swinging meter needle can often tell more than a digital readout. And is very difficult to blow into the middle of next week. ;-) I used a DVM to check for leakage on an AC line and got false readings. A 'real' meter worked better. -- N I much prefer digital for day to day work, though analog meters are still clearly superior for certain uses. I suppose it's kinda like manual transmissions in cars (which I very much prefer) though the rest of the world seems to be lazy and want an automatic but to each their own. |
In article xAl4e.155656$gJ3.78397@clgrps13,
NSM wrote: Indeed, a low input impedance meter has a lot going for it in many day to day measurements. And of course a swinging meter needle can often tell more than a digital readout. And is very difficult to blow into the middle of next week. ;-) I used a DVM to check for leakage on an AC line and got false readings. A 'real' meter worked better. You could, of course, simply use a parallel resistor to bring a DVM more into line with a needle type. Something like 240k ohms for 240 volts. -- *He who laughs last has just realised the joke. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article xAl4e.155656$gJ3.78397@clgrps13, NSM wrote: Indeed, a low input impedance meter has a lot going for it in many day to day measurements. And of course a swinging meter needle can often tell more than a digital readout. And is very difficult to blow into the middle of next week. ;-) I used a DVM to check for leakage on an AC line and got false readings. A 'real' meter worked better. You could, of course, simply use a parallel resistor to bring a DVM more into line with a needle type. Something like 240k ohms for 240 volts. The one area where I find an analog meter to really be easier is when you want to monitor the relative amplitude of some varying signal, it's a lot easier to visualize than jumpy digital numbers. For a quantitive value though digital is SO much easier. |
In article KOI4e.6601$Tm5.1917@trnddc07,
James Sweet wrote: The one area where I find an analog meter to really be easier is when you want to monitor the relative amplitude of some varying signal, it's a lot easier to visualize than jumpy digital numbers. For a quantitive value though digital is SO much easier. Better DVMs have a linear bar display to show you roughly the same thing. -- *How much deeper would the oceans be without sponges? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
"James Sweet" writes:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article xAl4e.155656$gJ3.78397@clgrps13, NSM wrote: Indeed, a low input impedance meter has a lot going for it in many day to day measurements. And of course a swinging meter needle can often tell more than a digital readout. And is very difficult to blow into the middle of next week. ;-) I used a DVM to check for leakage on an AC line and got false readings. A 'real' meter worked better. You could, of course, simply use a parallel resistor to bring a DVM more into line with a needle type. Something like 240k ohms for 240 volts. A typical needle type VOM has a resistance of 20,000 ohms/V. So, on the 500 V range, it would have a resistance of 10M ohm. On higher voltage ranges, the VOM would have a higher resistance than a typical DMM. Older Simpson 260s have a 5,000 range with an input impedance of 100M ohm. The one area where I find an analog meter to really be easier is when you want to monitor the relative amplitude of some varying signal, it's a lot easier to visualize than jumpy digital numbers. For a quantitive value though digital is SO much easier. Absolutely, or should I asy Relatively! --- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ Mirror: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/ Repair | Main Table of Contents: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/REPAIR/ +Lasers | Sam's Laser FAQ: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/sam/lasersam.htm | Mirror Sites: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/REPAIR/F_mirror.html Note: These links are hopefully temporary until we can sort out the excessive traffic on Repairfaq.org. Important: Anything sent to the email address in the message header above is ignored unless my full name is included in the subject line. Or, you can contact me via the Feedback Form in the FAQs. |
"Dave Plowman (News)" writes:
In article KOI4e.6601$Tm5.1917@trnddc07, James Sweet wrote: The one area where I find an analog meter to really be easier is when you want to monitor the relative amplitude of some varying signal, it's a lot easier to visualize than jumpy digital numbers. For a quantitive value though digital is SO much easier. Better DVMs have a linear bar display to show you roughly the same thing. I find those pretty useless, not the same as a real needle. :) --- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ Mirror: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/ Repair | Main Table of Contents: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/REPAIR/ +Lasers | Sam's Laser FAQ: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/sam/lasersam.htm | Mirror Sites: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/REPAIR/F_mirror.html Note: These links are hopefully temporary until we can sort out the excessive traffic on Repairfaq.org. Important: Anything sent to the email address in the message header above is ignored unless my full name is included in the subject line. Or, you can contact me via the Feedback Form in the FAQs. |
"NSM" bravely wrote to "All" (05 Apr 05 01:10:53)
--- on the heady topic of " Do multimeters "wear out" after so many years? = Fluke vs. Ideal, Wav" NS From: "NSM" NS Xref: aeinews sci.electronics.repair:44961 NS I used a DVM to check for leakage on an AC line and got false NS readings. A 'real' meter worked better. You have to use the proper UL defined leakage testing network to get a meaningful DMM measurement on AC operated equipment. An analog meter with low Kohms/volt sensitivity only approximates the required network better than a 10Megohm DMM. In fact a 10Megohm analog will also give a false reading. A*s*i*m*o*v .... Electrical engineers deal with current events. |
On 06 Apr 2005 09:51:16 -0400, Sam Goldwasser
wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" writes: In article KOI4e.6601$Tm5.1917@trnddc07, James Sweet wrote: The one area where I find an analog meter to really be easier is when you want to monitor the relative amplitude of some varying signal, it's a lot easier to visualize than jumpy digital numbers. For a quantitive value though digital is SO much easier. Better DVMs have a linear bar display to show you roughly the same thing. I find those pretty useless, not the same as a real needle. :) I'd think more people would be using those LCD Oscopes that are about the size of a big meter these days. |
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user_1 wrote: I'd think more people would be using those LCD Oscopes that are about the size of a big meter these days. Only if you're very rich, ;-) -- *What am I? Flypaper for freaks!? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
Better DVMs have a linear bar display to show you roughly the same thing. -- *How much deeper would the oceans be without sponges? * Dave Plowman Have you ever had to adjust the bias or drive on a TV transmitter with one of those? You would need new outputs before you ever got close to the proper settings. That "feature" is a piece of crap in the real world when you need to see a dip or peak that's only a couple needle's widths apart. -- Former professional electron wrangler. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article KOI4e.6601$Tm5.1917@trnddc07, James Sweet wrote: The one area where I find an analog meter to really be easier is when you want to monitor the relative amplitude of some varying signal, it's a lot easier to visualize than jumpy digital numbers. For a quantitive value though digital is SO much easier. Better DVMs have a linear bar display to show you roughly the same thing. Mine has one of those, it's really not very useful though, an analog needle has *far* higher resolution and reacts more quickly. |
I'd think more people would be using those LCD Oscopes that are about the size of a big meter these days. I've used those a couple times and really don't like them much, they cost an arm and a leg and the performance is nowhere near that of a good analog scope. |
"James Sweet" ) writes: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article KOI4e.6601$Tm5.1917@trnddc07, James Sweet wrote: The one area where I find an analog meter to really be easier is when you want to monitor the relative amplitude of some varying signal, it's a lot easier to visualize than jumpy digital numbers. For a quantitive value though digital is SO much easier. Better DVMs have a linear bar display to show you roughly the same thing. Mine has one of those, it's really not very useful though, an analog needle has *far* higher resolution and reacts more quickly. As I've said, the solution would be to put a tiny analog meter inside the DVM, with only a relative scale on it, for this sort of thing. Decades ago when I thought of building a DVM, I had planned to put in such an analog meter. And I'm pretty sure one manufacturer did include a meter like this way back. I find the sluggishness of the LCD "analog scale" makes it completely useless. Michael |
"Michael Black" wrote in message ... "James Sweet" ) writes: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article KOI4e.6601$Tm5.1917@trnddc07, James Sweet wrote: The one area where I find an analog meter to really be easier is when you want to monitor the relative amplitude of some varying signal, it's a lot easier to visualize than jumpy digital numbers. For a quantitive value though digital is SO much easier. Better DVMs have a linear bar display to show you roughly the same thing. Mine has one of those, it's really not very useful though, an analog needle has *far* higher resolution and reacts more quickly. As I've said, the solution would be to put a tiny analog meter inside the DVM, with only a relative scale on it, for this sort of thing. Decades ago when I thought of building a DVM, I had planned to put in such an analog meter. And I'm pretty sure one manufacturer did include a meter like this way back. I find the sluggishness of the LCD "analog scale" makes it completely useless. If they included an analog meter movment it'd probably be too small to be useful and add too much to the cost. Easier to just keep an analog meter around for the situations that need it. Digital is adaquate for most things. |
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Michael Black wrote: As I've said, the solution would be to put a tiny analog meter inside the DVM, with only a relative scale on it, for this sort of thing. Decades ago when I thought of building a DVM, I had planned to put in such an analog meter. And I'm pretty sure one manufacturer did include a meter like this way back. Trouble is including an analogue meter would *vastly* increase battery consumption. I find the sluggishness of the LCD "analog scale" makes it completely useless. Agreed they're not as good. I remember seeing one which had an LCD analogue meter complete with needle. But I don't know if it had the same ballistics as a 'real' one. -- *What was the best thing before sliced bread? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Butting in....
So what are you guys' favorite meters? I mentioned my Beckman 223 died. I always liked the Fluke 77, and don't need special stuff like frequency counter, computer connectivity or the like. I do need it to have a tilt base and be heavy enough that simply moving leads around won't jerk it around or knock it over. I can pick up a good condition 77 on eBay any day for around 50.00 or so, but that's an almost 20 year old model. Is the Fluke 77 mark 3 any good? The 87 seems a bit big for my purposes, though I suppose I could get used to it. What other models would you all recommend? Mark Z. |
In article 1113041834.9f8b2a4a76b747234f6c372302da2be1@teran ews,
Mark D. Zacharias wrote: Is the Fluke 77 mark 3 any good? The 87 seems a bit big for my purposes, though I suppose I could get used to it. What other models would you all recommend? I've got a 179, and am very pleased with it. Does have frequency counting though - and temperature. Auto ranging and hold with min max. Only think I dislike is the near rigid test leads. ;_) -- *If work is so terrific, how come they have to pay you to do it? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article 1113041834.9f8b2a4a76b747234f6c372302da2be1@teran ews, Mark D. Zacharias wrote: Is the Fluke 77 mark 3 any good? The 87 seems a bit big for my purposes, though I suppose I could get used to it. What other models would you all recommend? I've got a 179, and am very pleased with it. Does have frequency counting though - and temperature. Auto ranging and hold with min max. Only think I dislike is the near rigid test leads. ;_) The 73 looks pretty nice - and doesn't taper down towards the base like the 77 III, which looks kind of unstable to me. Mark Z. |
"James Sweet" writes:
"Michael Black" wrote in message ... "James Sweet" ) writes: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article KOI4e.6601$Tm5.1917@trnddc07, James Sweet wrote: The one area where I find an analog meter to really be easier is when you want to monitor the relative amplitude of some varying signal, it's a lot easier to visualize than jumpy digital numbers. For a quantitive value though digital is SO much easier. Better DVMs have a linear bar display to show you roughly the same thing. Mine has one of those, it's really not very useful though, an analog needle has *far* higher resolution and reacts more quickly. As I've said, the solution would be to put a tiny analog meter inside the DVM, with only a relative scale on it, for this sort of thing. Decades ago when I thought of building a DVM, I had planned to put in such an analog meter. And I'm pretty sure one manufacturer did include a meter like this way back. I find the sluggishness of the LCD "analog scale" makes it completely useless. If they included an analog meter movment it'd probably be too small to be useful and add too much to the cost. Easier to just keep an analog meter around for the situations that need it. Digital is adaquate for most things. Some more specialized measuring instruments like laser power meters do have both. The analog and digital displays share the same space as in Coherent's Fieldmaster: http://www.cohr.com/Lasers/index.cfm...id=254&loc=830 That's been around in essentially the same form for at least 15 years. I think they tried to do away with the delicate analog meter at one point in favor of a bargraph display but then went back to the analog meter. --- sam | Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ Mirror: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/ Repair | Main Table of Contents: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/REPAIR/ +Lasers | Sam's Laser FAQ: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/sam/lasersam.htm | Mirror Sites: http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/REPAIR/F_mirror.html Note: These links are hopefully temporary until we can sort out the excessive traffic on Repairfaq.org. Important: Anything sent to the email address in the message header above is ignored unless my full name is included in the subject line. Or, you can contact me via the Feedback Form in the FAQs. |
Mark D. Zacharias wrote:
Butting in.... So what are you guys' favorite meters? I've got a Fluke 87 and an 88, which is just an automotive oriented verson of the 87, and I like them both. With 10M Ohms input impedence I can measure O2 sensor voltage directly, use the analog bar to see rich/lean status, and use the averaging function to study trends. I've had my 87 for more than a decade and the 88 for nearly that long. JazzMan -- ************************************************** ******** Please reply to jsavage"at"airmail.net. Curse those darned bulk e-mailers! ************************************************** ******** "Rats and roaches live by competition under the laws of supply and demand. It is the privilege of human beings to live under the laws of justice and mercy." - Wendell Berry ************************************************** ******** |
"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message news:1113046516.29f0cea6b57a545932f6032c8dd24249@t eranews... Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article 1113041834.9f8b2a4a76b747234f6c372302da2be1@teran ews, Mark D. Zacharias wrote: Is the Fluke 77 mark 3 any good? The 87 seems a bit big for my purposes, though I suppose I could get used to it. What other models would you all recommend? I've got a 179, and am very pleased with it. Does have frequency counting though - and temperature. Auto ranging and hold with min max. Only think I dislike is the near rigid test leads. ;_) The 73 looks pretty nice - and doesn't taper down towards the base like the 77 III, which looks kind of unstable to me. I do like the 73, I really don't like that newer tapered design, still can't figure out why they did that, it's just not as comfortable in my hand. |
On Sat, 9 Apr 2005 05:17:09 -0500, "Mark D. Zacharias"
wrote: Butting in.... So what are you guys' favorite meters? I mentioned my Beckman 223 died. I always liked the Fluke 77, and don't need special stuff like frequency counter, computer connectivity or the like. I had a beckman at one place I worked and I remember it was great for battery life. Some other meters I was always replacing the 9v battery. |
I do like the 73, I really don't like that newer tapered design, still can't figure out why they did that, it's just not as comfortable in my hand. They change things just for the hell of it iam sure, take a look at the Wellar Soldering Gun from the 60,s and look at the present day one. kip "James Sweet" wrote in message news:pbV5e.8560$ox3.6539@trnddc03... "Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message news:1113046516.29f0cea6b57a545932f6032c8dd24249@t eranews... Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article 1113041834.9f8b2a4a76b747234f6c372302da2be1@teran ews, Mark D. Zacharias wrote: Is the Fluke 77 mark 3 any good? The 87 seems a bit big for my purposes, though I suppose I could get used to it. What other models would you all recommend? I've got a 179, and am very pleased with it. Does have frequency counting though - and temperature. Auto ranging and hold with min max. Only think I dislike is the near rigid test leads. ;_) The 73 looks pretty nice - and doesn't taper down towards the base like the 77 III, which looks kind of unstable to me. |
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