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Does anybody have idea where I can find config diagram for dip switch
of this synthesizer? You can see a picture of whole module on
http://www.tvsd.co.yu/synthesizer.jpg . This is a part of Elettronica
Industriale SPA uhf transmitter.
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I would try terminate the transmitter in to a dummy load or 30 dB
attenuator, try to measure the carrier frequency with a Frequency
Counter. Take some notes and just write down the measured frequency at
different settings... You may need a Communications Test Set to decode
any Tone Squelch type codes if that's what the Dip Switch Settings are
for???
Other than that, sounds like ya could use some documentation...

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On 15 Jan 2005 16:11:47 -0800, (Igor Djokic) put
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Does anybody have idea where I can find config diagram for dip switch
of this synthesizer? You can see a picture of whole module on
http://www.tvsd.co.yu/synthesizer.jpg . This is a part of Elettronica
Industriale SPA uhf transmitter.


Why not reverse engineer the area around the IC? Here is the
datasheet:
http://www.alphacron.de/download/hardware/MC145152.pdf

I would think that if you could determine the frequency at one
particular setting, then the other frequencies would follow a
recognisable pattern.

Alternatively, you could calculate all the settings by determining the
main oscillator frequency (pins 26 and 27), the wiring of RA0-2 (are
they all grounded or tied high?), and how the N and A pins connect to
the switch pack. If you can post these data I believe I can do the
calculations for you.


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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:13:09 +1100, Franc Zabkar
put finger to keyboard and composed:

On 15 Jan 2005 16:11:47 -0800, (Igor Djokic) put
finger to keyboard and composed:

Does anybody have idea where I can find config diagram for dip switch
of this synthesizer? You can see a picture of whole module on
http://www.tvsd.co.yu/synthesizer.jpg . This is a part of Elettronica
Industriale SPA uhf transmitter.


Why not reverse engineer the area around the IC? Here is the
datasheet:
http://www.alphacron.de/download/hardware/MC145152.pdf

I would think that if you could determine the frequency at one
particular setting, then the other frequencies would follow a
recognisable pattern.

Alternatively, you could calculate all the settings by determining the
main oscillator frequency (pins 26 and 27), the wiring of RA0-2 (are
they all grounded or tied high?), and how the N and A pins connect to
the switch pack. If you can post these data I believe I can do the
calculations for you.


I suspect IC12 is an MC12017 65/64 prescaler. The A0-A5 count inputs
probably all connect to one end of the switch pack. The remaining
switches probably connect to 4 of the 10 N inputs, the remaining N
lines being tied high or low. If this is the case, then the frequency
step size would be given by Fosc / R, where R is the divider value
stored in the MC145152's internal ROM lookup table. For example, if
the oscillator frequency is 10.24MHz and the RA0-2 inputs are all tied
high, then the divisor is 2048 (see page 6 of the datasheet). This
would give steps of 10.24M / 2048 = 5kHz. The total count produced by
the MC145152's A & N counters is given by ...

Nt = N.P + A where P/P+1 is the value of the external prescaler (64)

Hence the frequency generated at the external VCO is ...

Fpll = 5kHz . (64N + A)

The more general formula is ...

Fpll = Fosc / R . (N.P + A)

To calculate the actual frequency of the *transmitter*, one would need
to know if the next stages involved multipliers and/or mixers.

I believe the switches serve a dual purpose. I suspect they also
connect to 10 of the external EPROM's address lines. The EPROM
probably contains a lookup table of 2-digit UHF channel numbers which
it presents on its 8 data lines. D0-3 and D4-7 probably control each
of the two CA3161E BCD to 7 segment decoder/drivers. If you dump the
contents of the EPROM, you should be able to decode the relationship
of the switches to the channel numbers.


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