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James Sweet December 31st 04 09:03 AM

Warning! Virus!
 

"Guy Macon" wrote in message
...

Mazi wrote:

My Linux computer does not have any ad/spy-aware and anti
virus software installed, yet I don't see any harm to my
Linux computer after visiting the website. So, what's the
deal?


The Commodore 128 that I use to access the web (yes, I have
Slakware Linux and Windows 2000 boxes, but the C128 is more
fun and boots in seconds) also does not have any adware/spyware
or antivirus software installed. In fact, I see one common
factor to all of these viruses: Microsoft operating systems...




What I don't understand is why it's not obvious to some people that if 95%
of people use a particular OS, 95% of the viruses, spyware, etc will be for
that OS. The OS itself has little to do with it, the biggest factor is the
users themselves, both in number and habbits. A secure OS can be made
insecure by sloppy usage, an insecure OS can be made reasonably secure with
diligence. As always there's a tradeoff between convenience/usability and
security. A bank vault door with a time lock as the only entrance to a house
would be very secure, but how long would it take for the typical user to
prop it open in the name of convenience?



Ed Price December 31st 04 01:59 PM


"Guy Macon" wrote in message
...

Mazi wrote:

My Linux computer does not have any ad/spy-aware and anti
virus software installed, yet I don't see any harm to my
Linux computer after visiting the website. So, what's the
deal?


The Commodore 128 that I use to access the web (yes, I have
Slakware Linux and Windows 2000 boxes, but the C128 is more
fun and boots in seconds) also does not have any adware/spyware
or antivirus software installed. In fact, I see one common
factor to all of these viruses: Microsoft operating systems...





Yes, it's hard to corrupt a ROM based OS!

OTOH, the C-128 allows for direct access of things like the keyboard buffer
registers, and allows for PEEKS and POKES direct to specific memory
locations. I suspect that if some malicious dude (an Ohio Scientific owner
with a grudge?) gave a rat's ass about bothering the microscopic C-128 user
base, he could march in, play a tune on your floppy drive track-zero stop,
and reformat whatever storage media you have.

But maybe you're actually running in the CP/M mode?

Ed
wb6wsn


Ed Price December 31st 04 03:29 PM


"Jamie" wrote in message
...
Guy Macon wrote:

Mazi wrote:


My Linux computer does not have any ad/spy-aware and anti virus software
installed, yet I don't see any harm to my Linux computer after visiting
the website. So, what's the deal?



The Commodore 128 that I use to access the web (yes, I have
Slakware Linux and Windows 2000 boxes, but the C128 is more
fun and boots in seconds) also does not have any adware/spyware or
antivirus software installed. In fact, I see one common
factor to all of these viruses: Microsoft operating systems...



i have a 128D, whats it worth to you?



Not heavy enough to hold the boat, too easy to trip over to hold the door;
why not put it up on eBay?

Ed
wb6wsn


Jamie December 31st 04 05:50 PM

Guy Macon wrote:

Mazi wrote:


My Linux computer does not have any ad/spy-aware and anti
virus software installed, yet I don't see any harm to my
Linux computer after visiting the website. So, what's the
deal?



The Commodore 128 that I use to access the web (yes, I have
Slakware Linux and Windows 2000 boxes, but the C128 is more
fun and boots in seconds) also does not have any adware/spyware
or antivirus software installed. In fact, I see one common
factor to all of these viruses: Microsoft operating systems...



i have a 128D, whats it worth to you?


Tom MacIntyre December 31st 04 09:46 PM

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 05:13:28 +0000, Guy Macon
wrote:


Mazi wrote:

My Linux computer does not have any ad/spy-aware and anti
virus software installed, yet I don't see any harm to my
Linux computer after visiting the website. So, what's the
deal?


The Commodore 128 that I use to access the web (yes, I have
Slakware Linux and Windows 2000 boxes, but the C128 is more
fun and boots in seconds) also does not have any adware/spyware
or antivirus software installed. In fact, I see one common
factor to all of these viruses: Microsoft operating systems...



The big player is targetted...why target .0001% (probably less) of the
online population?

Do you actually believe that a virus can't be coded for a C 128?

Tom


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