Hi
Would appreciate some advice on the above. The adapter was part of a "Dual
record deck" (CS455). Unfortunately the adapter cable was damaged and it no
longer works. Does anyone know what one I could use as a replacement for the
"Dual deck"?

The information on the AC Adapter is:
Input: 230V~ +-10%/50Hz/1VA
Output: 12V-/20mA
Type: FW3099

Thank you
Vic

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"Vic" wrote in message
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Hi
Would appreciate some advice on the above. The adapter was part of a "Dual
record deck" (CS455). Unfortunately the adapter cable was damaged and it
no
longer works. Does anyone know what one I could use as a replacement for
the
"Dual deck"?

The information on the AC Adapter is:
Input: 230V~ +-10%/50Hz/1VA
Output: 12V-/20mA
Type: FW3099

Thank you
Vic

20 mA does not seem enough to run a disco unit. Are you sure about the
output current.
You need to tell us if the output is AC or DC and if DC if it is regulated
or not.
Describe the symbol immediately after the output rating, is it a solid line
with a dotted line underneath?

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"Vic" wrote in message
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Hi
Would appreciate some advice on the above. The adapter was part of a "Dual
record deck" (CS455). Unfortunately the adapter cable was damaged and it
no
longer works. Does anyone know what one I could use as a replacement for
the
"Dual deck"?

The information on the AC Adapter is:
Input: 230V~ +-10%/50Hz/1VA
Output: 12V-/20mA
Type: FW3099

Thank you
Vic

20 mA does not seem enough to run a disco unit. Are you sure about the
output current.
You need to tell us if the output is AC or DC and if DC if it is regulated
or not.
Describe the symbol immediately after the output rating, is it a solid line
with a dotted line underneath?

Hi Graham
Thanks for answering. For some unknown reason my question is not
showing up in outlook express (newsgroups) so have had to sign up with
Google and do it from there. Hope you are able to view this reply.

20 mA does not seem enough to run a disco unit

Its not a disco unit just an ordinary record deck. Part of a seperates
system. The 20mA is correct.

You need to tell us if the output is AC or DC and if DC if it is
regulated
or not.

No information on the adapter to say if its AC or DC / Regulated or
not. It came with the deck (provided by Dual) I would imagine that its
AC as its use is to be used from a house circuit to cut the voltage
from 230v to 12v. You would probably know better.

Describe the symbol immediately after the output rating, is it a
solid line
with a dotted line underneath?

Yes. To confirm,

Input: 230V~+-10%/50Hz/1VA

(The Plus+ sign before the 10% is placed above the Minus- sign)

Output: 12V-/20mA

(The Minus- sign after the 12V is placed above 3 dots...)

The only other information on the adapter is as follows:

285418
NS/349/12345/K/601315
IP20
FWGB
Made in Germany to BS6301
Indoor use only

It can be taken apart as it is fixed together by two screws. There is
no other information on the inside.

Appreciate your help
Vic

I guess the adapter only supplies a pre-amp.
Just try a standard one, but TAKE CARE FOR CORRECT POLARITY!!!

BR,

Andre


Vic wrote:

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Hi
Would appreciate some advice on the above. The adapter was part of a "Dual
record deck" (CS455). Unfortunately the adapter cable was damaged and it

no

longer works. Does anyone know what one I could use as a replacement for

the

"Dual deck"?

The information on the AC Adapter is:
Input: 230V~ +-10%/50Hz/1VA
Output: 12V-/20mA
Type: FW3099

Thank you
Vic

20 mA does not seem enough to run a disco unit. Are you sure about the
output current.
You need to tell us if the output is AC or DC and if DC if it is regulated
or not.
Describe the symbol immediately after the output rating, is it a solid line
with a dotted line underneath?


Hi Graham
Thanks for answering. For some unknown reason my question is not
showing up in outlook express (newsgroups) so have had to sign up with
Google and do it from there. Hope you are able to view this reply.


20 mA does not seem enough to run a disco unit


Its not a disco unit just an ordinary record deck. Part of a seperates
system. The 20mA is correct.


You need to tell us if the output is AC or DC and if DC if it is

regulated

or not.


No information on the adapter to say if its AC or DC / Regulated or
not. It came with the deck (provided by Dual) I would imagine that its
AC as its use is to be used from a house circuit to cut the voltage
from 230v to 12v. You would probably know better.


Describe the symbol immediately after the output rating, is it a

solid line
with a dotted line underneath?

Yes. To confirm,

Input: 230V~+-10%/50Hz/1VA

(The Plus+ sign before the 10% is placed above the Minus- sign)

Output: 12V-/20mA

(The Minus- sign after the 12V is placed above 3 dots...)

The only other information on the adapter is as follows:

285418
NS/349/12345/K/601315
IP20
FWGB
Made in Germany to BS6301
Indoor use only

It can be taken apart as it is fixed together by two screws. There is
no other information on the inside.

Appreciate your help
Vic


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The "minus sign above 3 dots" is a graphical symbol to indicate DC
output. The corresponding symbol for AC would be one cycle of a sine wave.

Since the output is DC, there will be one (or two) rectifier diodes
inside. There MAY also be an electrolytic filter capacitor, and beyond
that, there MAY be a regulator (zener) diode or a regulator IC. Or, the
filter cap and regulator might be inside the disc unit.

Since you say you can open the case, tell us what is in there.

Bill
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Vic wrote:

Would appreciate some advice on the above. The adapter was part of a "Dual
record deck" (CS455). Unfortunately the adapter cable was damaged and it
no
longer works. Does anyone know what one I could use as a replacement for
the
"Dual deck"?

The information on the AC Adapter is:
Input: 230V~ +-10%/50Hz/1VA
Output: 12V-/20mA
Type: FW3099

Output: 12V-/20mA

(The Minus- sign after the 12V is placed above 3 dots...)

It can be taken apart as it is fixed together by two screws. There is
no other information on the inside.

"Vic" wrote in message
. ..
| Hi
| Would appreciate some advice on the above. The adapter was part of a "Dual
| record deck" (CS455). Unfortunately the adapter cable was damaged and it
no
| longer works. Does anyone know what one I could use as a replacement for
the
| "Dual deck"?

Assuming you want to replace the adapter any universal one will do. Or if
you can find a 12 V adapter, as long as it supplies 20 mA or more it will
work. Just be sure the polarity is correct.

N

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"Vic" wrote in message
. ..
| Hi
| Would appreciate some advice on the above. The adapter was part of a
"Dual
| record deck" (CS455). Unfortunately the adapter cable was damaged and it
no
| longer works. Does anyone know what one I could use as a replacement for
the
| "Dual deck"?

Assuming you want to replace the adapter any universal one will do. Or if
you can find a 12 V adapter, as long as it supplies 20 mA or more it will
work. Just be sure the polarity is correct.

N



Don't go too overboard on the current capacity, a 12v 800mA adapter for
example will likely put out considerably more than 12v at only a 20mA load.

"James Sweet" writes:

Don't go too overboard on the current capacity, a 12v 800mA adapter for
example will likely put out considerably more than 12v at only a 20mA load.

And some of those universal adapters will put out more than 12 V when set
for 3 V with a light load. Check the voltage with a multimeter before
plugging it in to your equipment.

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"Vic" wrote in message
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| Hi
| Would appreciate some advice on the above. The adapter was part of a
"Dual
| record deck" (CS455). Unfortunately the adapter cable was damaged and it
no
| longer works. Does anyone know what one I could use as a replacement for
the
| "Dual deck"?

Assuming you want to replace the adapter any universal one will do. Or if
you can find a 12 V adapter, as long as it supplies 20 mA or more it will
work. Just be sure the polarity is correct.

N

Hi N
Thanks for your reply. It was the "mA" that I was unsure of mainly and the
polarity. Argos do one he
http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...go.x=8&go.y=11
which I assume would be ok.

I was asked earlier if it was DC out which isn't mentioned on the adapter
but according to the specs at this site:
http://www.compassnet.com/concept/tables/CS455.htm
it runs a DC motor so AC to DC adapter needed. Is that correct?

Many thanks again N
Vic

"Vic" wrote in message
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| Hi N
| Thanks for your reply. It was the "mA" that I was unsure of mainly and the
| polarity. Argos do one he
|
http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...go.x=8&go.y=11
| which I assume would be ok.

I'm stunned at the 1200mA output. That usually means a switch mode supply.
If you can find one that's 200 or 300 mA that'd be better. Also, it's a good
idea to check the voltage if you have a meter. If not, I often set the
voltage at 3V and crank it up one step at a time until the device works OK.
These things do deliver too much voltage at light load.

12V=/20mA is a DC out system all right. However, if the power supply powers
the actual motor, then that current can't be right.

This setup is puzzling. Can you scan the label on the power supply and post
it somewhere?

NM

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"Vic" wrote in message
...

| Hi N
| Thanks for your reply. It was the "mA" that I was unsure of mainly and
the
| polarity. Argos do one he
|
http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/st...go.x=8&go.y=11
| which I assume would be ok.

I'm stunned at the 1200mA output. That usually means a switch mode supply.
If you can find one that's 200 or 300 mA that'd be better. Also, it's a
good
idea to check the voltage if you have a meter. If not, I often set the
voltage at 3V and crank it up one step at a time until the device works
OK.
These things do deliver too much voltage at light load.

12V=/20mA is a DC out system all right. However, if the power supply
powers
the actual motor, then that current can't be right.

This setup is puzzling. Can you scan the label on the power supply and
post
it somewhere?

NM


Thanks to all for your help so far.
NM
Have uploaded 3 pictures to "alt.binaries.test" newsgroup (sorry about the
size) under the heading "AC Adapter". Hopefully it will be near the top of
the list. It is a busy newsgroup. Have also done a voltage check again on
the above adapter but its completely dead. I only hope it hasn't damaged the
deck as well. Also tried looking for anyone that repairs these adapters but
no luck so far. Whether its viable in terms of cost remains to be seen but
it would probably be a safer option than using a universal adapter. Anyhow
I'll await your recommendations once you've seen the pictures.
Vic

N
Ignore the "AC Adapter AC Adapter.zip" files in "alt binaries.test" as these
are quite large. I have re-uploaded the same pictures (saved as .jpg) but
the size is a great deal smaller. You are now looking for "AC Adapter Pics".
Hopefully they will be up there when you go there. It took 3 hours for the
original ones to get there.
Vic

"Vic" wrote in message
k...
| N
| Ignore the "AC Adapter AC Adapter.zip" files in "alt binaries.test" as
these
| are quite large. I have re-uploaded the same pictures (saved as .jpg) but
| the size is a great deal smaller. You are now looking for "AC Adapter
Pics".
| Hopefully they will be up there when you go there. It took 3 hours for the
| original ones to get there.

Unfortunately the turnover there is so great I doubt there's a good way to
find them. I show 45000+ files currently and a rapid upload of new ones!

N

"Vic" wrote in message
k...
| N
| Ignore the "AC Adapter AC Adapter.zip" files in "alt binaries.test" as
these
| are quite large. I have re-uploaded the same pictures (saved as .jpg) but
| the size is a great deal smaller. You are now looking for "AC Adapter
Pics".
| Hopefully they will be up there when you go there. It took 3 hours for the
| original ones to get there.

This player doesn't have any AC power cord? It's totally powered by the
adaptor?

Neil