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Nicad battery rejuvenating
I found a number of Dewalt 18V cordless tool battery packs of the same
rating at the dump and was able to use good cells from one to repair some of the others. Afterwards, I decided to see if I could bring any of the dead ones back. I charged up a 1500MFD cap to 60V and discharged it across each dead cell and then attempted to charge them at a rate equal to 10 percent of their rating. While some would not budge others seemed to come up and so one by one I charged them for almost 20 hours at this rate. They all reached over 1.30 V at what appeared to be full charge. I marked each one after I finished with it so that I wouldn't inadvertently try to charge it again. After I finished with the last cell, I went back to look at the ones previously charged and to my surprise only one or two were at 1.25V. Some were reading below 1.0 V but almost all of them had gone dead again. It seems to me that I had employed a similar technique mentioned above in the past to revive dead nicads with some success but this time it was different. Can anyone comment on my experience here? Did I over blast these things or perhaps were they just really dead horses to begin with? Or perhaps others have used a different procedure in the past with more success. Thanks. Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics. |
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"Lenny" wrote in message om... [...] I've managed to get some life into dead nicads before now by blasting a few amps through them (5A or so) for a few seconds to get them working, then cycle them up and down half a dozen times on a fast charge/discharge cycle. It works about 50% of the time - the ones that work get about 50-80% capacity, the ones that don't get about 2% capacity and end up in the trash (err.. I mean 'they are recycled'.) |
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"Lenny" wrote in message om... | I found a number of Dewalt 18V cordless tool battery packs of the same | rating at the dump and was able to use good cells from one to repair | some of the others. Afterwards, I decided to see if I could bring any | of the dead ones back. ... Sometimes you can burn out internal shorts. Sometimes they're just plain dead. N |
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Lenny wrote:
I found a number of Dewalt 18V cordless tool battery packs of the same rating at the dump and was able to use good cells from one to repair some of the others. Afterwards, I decided to see if I could bring any of the dead ones back. I charged up a 1500MFD cap to 60V and discharged it across each dead cell and then attempted to charge them at a rate equal to 10 percent of their rating. While some would not budge others seemed to come up and so one by one I charged them for almost 20 hours at this rate. They all reached over 1.30 V at what appeared to be full charge. I marked each one after I finished with it so that I wouldn't inadvertently try to charge it again. After I finished with the last cell, I went back to look at the ones previously charged and to my surprise only one or two were at 1.25V. Some were reading below 1.0 V but almost all of them had gone dead again. It seems to me that I had employed a similar technique mentioned above in the past to revive dead nicads with some success but this time it was different. Can anyone comment on my experience here? Did I over blast these things or perhaps were they just really dead horses to begin with? Or perhaps others have used a different procedure in the past with more success. Thanks. Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics. Cells grow pointy things on the plates that punctures the separator causing the short. Your mission is to blow out the short without hurting the insulator further. You may have overkilled it. BUT Problem is that the hole is still there in the separator and it will leak. And probably short again eventually. I've had mixed results zapping nicads. Self discharge rate is often high, but if you use 'em right away, you can sometimes get some use out of 'em. Most of the failures of drill batteries has been heat due to seriously overcharging them. Don't think I've ever successfully recovered one of those. mike -- Return address is VALID. 500MHz Tek DSOscilloscope TDS540 $2200 http://nm7u.tripod.com/homepage/te.html Wanted, 12.1" LCD for Gateway Solo 5300. Samsung LT121SU-121 Bunch of stuff For Sale and Wanted at the link below. http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Monitor/4710/ |
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