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Windows BMW dealer software cable for programming Bimmers
Just bought my first BMW, a 2002 525i with 130K miles on it,
so I downloaded the dealer software (INPA) for changing settings such as the automatic locking at 5mph (which I want to turn OFF!). Since I have a Windows 7 machine with USB (but not serial ports), all I need now is the $20 cable to go from the 16-pin OBDII connector near the driver, to the USB port on the Windows 7 laptop. It seems most cables online are for the newer (D-Can) BMWs, and because of that, they're more expensive ($50) than I need ($20). But I just want the older cheaper BMW cable (with pin 7 & 8 as the K-Line). Do any of you have an older (1997 to 2003) BMW that uses the older K-Line cables? Where did you get your cable? |
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Windows BMW dealer software cable for programming Bimmers
On 4/30/2014 12:53 PM, Calia wrote:
Just bought my first BMW, a 2002 525i with 130K miles on it, so I downloaded the dealer software (INPA) for changing settings such as the automatic locking at 5mph (which I want to turn OFF!). Since I have a Windows 7 machine with USB (but not serial ports), all I need now is the $20 cable to go from the 16-pin OBDII connector near the driver, to the USB port on the Windows 7 laptop. It seems most cables online are for the newer (D-Can) BMWs, and because of that, they're more expensive ($50) than I need ($20). But I just want the older cheaper BMW cable (with pin 7 & 8 as the K-Line). Do any of you have an older (1997 to 2003) BMW that uses the older K-Line cables? Where did you get your cable? amazon.com? or cables to go? |
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Windows BMW dealer software cable for programming Bimmers
On Thu, 01 May 2014 17:07:03 -0700, Drew wrote:
amazon.com? or cables to go? The problem isn't finding the plethora of cables on Ebay or Amazon. The problem is finding a good one that works. |
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Windows BMW dealer software cable for programming Bimmers
In sci.electronics.repair Calia wrote:
On Thu, 01 May 2014 17:07:03 -0700, Drew wrote: amazon.com? or cables to go? The problem isn't finding the plethora of cables on Ebay or Amazon. The problem is finding a good one that works. that rules out ebay and amazon. |
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Windows BMW dealer software cable for programming Bimmers
On Fri, 02 May 2014 18:31:41 +0000, Cydrome Leader wrote:
that rules out ebay and amazon. Understood. So, doesn't *anyone* in this newsgroup who uses Windows own a bimmer? |
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Windows BMW dealer software cable for programming Bimmers
In article , Calia wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2014 18:31:41 +0000, Cydrome Leader wrote: that rules out ebay and amazon. Understood. So, doesn't *anyone* in this newsgroup who uses Windows own a bimmer? I drive a BMW with a carb and crank-up windows and I use NetBSD. But, I think the cable you want is pretty much a passive device, and you should just pick one at random. Most of them should work, although how long they work will vary. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Windows BMW dealer software cable for programming Bimmers
On Sat, 3 May 2014 00:16:33 +0000 (UTC), the renowned Calia
wrote: On Fri, 02 May 2014 18:31:41 +0000, Cydrome Leader wrote: that rules out ebay and amazon. Understood. So, doesn't *anyone* in this newsgroup who uses Windows own a bimmer? Yeah, but mine bracket your age range. I think the BMW forums (eg MyE28.com for my ancient one) would be the best place to get a recommendation. Yours is an E39, so try: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=103 The Unix-based dealer software is a major PITA, IMHO if your charge-out rate is more than 10-20% of mine, you might be better off just paying a third-party dude to do it for you. There's always a risk of bricking the car too. All I needed to do was to reset the stupid transport mode it fell into when the battery died (due to my lack of using a battery preserver over the winter), and it took *hours* to get everything going. I just bought a recommended cable from an eBay seller- it was dirt cheap, came with a couple of CDs (BMW-specific), and works perfectly. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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Windows BMW dealer software cable for programming Bimmers
On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 19:53:42 +0000, Calia wrote:
But I just want the older cheaper BMW cable (with pin 7 & 8 as the K-Line). Do any of you have an older (1997 to 2003) BMW that uses the older K-Line cables? Googling for "bmw inpa cable k-line e39" I find more than I can shake a stick at. Unfortunately, most are K+Dcan, which is fine, if both pins 7 & 8 are K-line (as I don't need Dcan for a BMW E39). But, almost none of the ads state which pins are for the K-Line. For example: $32 http://www.amazon.com/Loftek-Interfa.../dp/B007JRWH1M $30 http://www.bonanza.com/listings/Inpa...-Bmw/162319547 $25 http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/201047893380?lpid=82 What I'm hoping to find is a Windows user who owns a BMW E39 (i.e., any BMW 5-series from 1997 to 2003) who works on their own car. The theory is that, if you work on your own car, you'll likely already have the cable. Then you can recommend which one you use that works with INPA on a USB Windows 7 laptop & an 16-pin OBDII BMW E39 connector. |
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Windows BMW dealer software cable for programming Bimmers
On 30/04/2014 3:53 PM, Calia wrote:
Just bought my first BMW, a 2002 525i with 130K miles on it, so I downloaded the dealer software (INPA) for changing settings such as the automatic locking at 5mph (which I want to turn OFF!). Since I have a Windows 7 machine with USB (but not serial ports), all I need now is the $20 cable to go from the 16-pin OBDII connector near the driver, to the USB port on the Windows 7 laptop. It seems most cables online are for the newer (D-Can) BMWs, and because of that, they're more expensive ($50) than I need ($20). But I just want the older cheaper BMW cable (with pin 7 & 8 as the K-Line). Do any of you have an older (1997 to 2003) BMW that uses the older K-Line cables? Where did you get your cable? An ODB-II cable is an industry standard across all car lines. You don't need anything specific for BMW with those. However, ODB-II has limited reprogram-ability options. It's mainly used for reading out sensor readings from the car, rather than to reprogram its computer. In other words, it's mostly a passive reader. Yousuf Khan |
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Windows BMW dealer software cable for programming Bimmers
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:27:49 -0400, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 30/04/2014 3:53 PM, Calia wrote: Just bought my first BMW, a 2002 525i with 130K miles on it, so I downloaded the dealer software (INPA) for changing settings such as the automatic locking at 5mph (which I want to turn OFF!). Since I have a Windows 7 machine with USB (but not serial ports), all I need now is the $20 cable to go from the 16-pin OBDII connector near the driver, to the USB port on the Windows 7 laptop. It seems most cables online are for the newer (D-Can) BMWs, and because of that, they're more expensive ($50) than I need ($20). But I just want the older cheaper BMW cable (with pin 7 & 8 as the K-Line). Do any of you have an older (1997 to 2003) BMW that uses the older K-Line cables? Where did you get your cable? An ODB-II cable is an industry standard across all car lines. You don't need anything specific for BMW with those. However, ODB-II has limited reprogram-ability options. It's mainly used for reading out sensor readings from the car, rather than to reprogram its computer. In other words, it's mostly a passive reader. Yousuf Khan There are apps available for Android that connect to OBD (not ODB) readers that in fact enable two-way communications. The real problem is that manufacturers don't want you to know their proprietary codes. I have a ~$20 OBD II device that connects to my cell phone via Bluetooth and a ~$5 app that lets me change codes (I haven't used it in a while, so I don't have much info at my disposal). Here are two links for your entertainment: http://tinyurl.com/mu8hcgh which is from http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...lm%2Caps%2C297 and http://tinyurl.com/mczh6fx which is from https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...om_deve loper I see form the Amazon page that the devices have gotten cheaper. BTW, that's just a surface look. There are many devices, not all Bluetooth, and not all so primitive (or so cheap), and there is other SW for Android. When I last looked (two years ago, for a friend), I couldn't find anything for iPhones that seemed to have the functionality of the above. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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