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Man-wai Chang April 29th 11 03:04 PM

Modifying a USB cable to charge iPod without PC connection
 
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/07/si..._ch argers-2/


+5V ---50k --- D-
|
10k
|
GND ---40K --- D+

Is this safe? Would it work?

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spamtrap1888 April 29th 11 04:32 PM

Modifying a USB cable to charge iPod without PC connection
 
On Apr 29, 7:04*am, Man-wai Chang wrote:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/07/si..._charger_units...

+5V ---50k --- D-
* * * * * * * * |
* * * * * * * *10k
* * * * * * * * |
GND ---40K --- D+

Is this safe? Would it work?


Show your work -- why make people duplicate your analysis?

Man-wai Chang April 29th 11 04:44 PM

Modifying a USB cable to charge iPod without PC connection
 
+5V ---50k --- D-
|
10k
|
GND ---40K --- D+

Show your work -- why make people duplicate your analysis?


I dont' wanna kill my iPod Touch... :)

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spamtrap1888 April 29th 11 05:06 PM

Modifying a USB cable to charge iPod without PC connection
 
On Apr 29, 8:44*am, Man-wai Chang wrote:
+5V ---50k --- D-
* * * * * * * * *|
* * * * * * * * 10k
* * * * * * * * *|
GND ---40K --- D+


Show your work -- why make people duplicate your analysis?


I dont' wanna kill my iPod Touch... :)


Why not just use the two resistor dividers your link claims do work?

lsmartino April 29th 11 05:17 PM

Modifying a USB cable to charge iPod without PC connection
 
On 29 abr, 10:04, Man-wai Chang wrote:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/07/si..._charger_units...

+5V ---50k --- D-
* * * * * * * * |
* * * * * * * *10k
* * * * * * * * |
GND ---40K --- D+

Is this safe? Would it work?

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* / v \ *Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you!
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* *^ ^ * 22:00:02 up 5 days 2:01 1 user load average: 1.10 1.08 1.05
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Seems to me that this mod should work. All that this mod does is to
put some voltage in D- and D+ pins, and that voltage will never be
greater than 5V, so I don´t see why it will not work.

Just give it a try. You won´t fry anything.

John Keiser April 29th 11 06:15 PM

Modifying a USB cable to charge iPod without PC connection
 
I made an iPod charger to run off 4 AA batteries using a similar divider.
Not sure why you are modifying the example given, but the values are not
especially critical. Any reason you can't measure the output?

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http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/07/si..._ch argers-2/


+5V ---50k --- D-
|
10k
|
GND ---40K --- D+

Is this safe? Would it work?

--
@~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.
/ v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you!
/( _ )\ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.38.4
^ ^ 22:00:02 up 5 days 2:01 1 user load average: 1.10 1.08 1.05
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Jasen Betts[_2_] April 30th 11 09:50 AM

Modifying a USB cable to charge iPod without PC connection
 
On 2011-04-29, Man-wai Chang wrote:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/07/si..._ch argers-2/


+5V ---50k --- D-
|
10k
|
GND ---40K --- D+

Is this safe? Would it work?


As you're not putting more than 3.3V on the data lines it looks fine
to me.

There's a standard for power-only USB sockets.
it's basically 5V and some resistors, I'm not sure how close to it
that layout it is, I'd research and try the standard way first.







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Jasen Betts[_2_] April 30th 11 10:12 AM

Modifying a USB cable to charge iPod without PC connection
 
On 2011-04-29, Man-wai Chang wrote:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/07/si..._ch argers-2/


+5V ---50k --- D-
|
10k
|
GND ---40K --- D+

Is this safe? Would it work?


At initial glance it seems good, but I haven't read the whole USB
charging specification.

http://www.usb.org/developers/devcla...rging_V1_2.zip



Man-wai Chang April 30th 11 12:03 PM

Modifying a USB cable to charge iPod without PC connection
 
At initial glance it seems good, but I haven't read the whole USB
charging specification.
http://www.usb.org/developers/devcla...rging_V1_2.zip


Too much information.... -_-"

Are you saying that the voltage over D+ and D- should be smaller than
2.0V and 2.5V respectively?

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Jasen Betts[_2_] April 30th 11 01:17 PM

Modifying a USB cable to charge iPod without PC connection
 
On 2011-04-30, Man-wai Chang wrote:
At initial glance it seems good, but I haven't read the whole USB
charging specification.
http://www.usb.org/developers/devcla...rging_V1_2.zip


Too much information.... -_-"

Are you saying that the voltage over D+ and D- should be smaller than
2.0V and 2.5V respectively?


The only maximum voltage number I saw quoted for those pins was 3.6V
I skimmed it, mostly I did searches and looked at the diagrams.

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