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I have a Toshiba Satellite A205 - S4777 that works perfect while on
battery, but the instance i plug the charger in, it freezes. First i thought it was a Vista-Toshiba issue but only to discover that even in BIOS it freezes instantly when the charger is plugged in. When the laptop is off, any attempt to power it on while the charger is plugged in, results only in a flicker of the power led. I tried different chargers, ANY possible power options combinations in Vista and Win7. If I boot from battery and enter Windows Safe Mode, or Hiren's boot CD, or WinXP mini all works fine even if I connect the power cord, where normal Windows and BIOS freeze istantly. I'm even thing of giving current directly by the battery contacts... may this be possible? Any help or advice on possible causes or solution to this issue would be grateful. Thank you ![]() |
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On Apr 23, 3:00*pm, Mike De Petris wrote:
I have a Toshiba Satellite A205 - S4777 that works perfect while on battery, but the instance i plug the charger in, it freezes. First i thought it was a Vista-Toshiba issue but only to discover that even in BIOS it freezes instantly when the charger is plugged in. When the laptop is off, any attempt to power it on while the charger is plugged in, results only in a flicker of the power led. I tried different chargers, ANY possible power options combinations in Vista and Win7. If I boot from battery and enter Windows Safe Mode, or Hiren's boot CD, or WinXP mini all works fine even if I connect the power cord, where normal Windows and BIOS freeze istantly. I'm even thing of giving current directly by the battery contacts... may this be possible? Any help or advice on possible causes or solution to this issue would be grateful. Thank you ![]() What do you mean by freezing, there are devices sold that either heat or cool, but those are normally sold as refrigerators and heaters. Do you mean the mouse stops moving, or what???? |
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On Apr 24, 6:06*am, "hr(bob) "
wrote: On Apr 23, 3:00*pm, Mike De Petris wrote: I have a Toshiba Satellite A205 - S4777 that works perfect while on battery, but the instance i plug the charger in, it freezes. First i thought it was a Vista-Toshiba issue but only to discover that even in BIOS it freezes instantly when the charger is plugged in. When the laptop is off, any attempt to power it on while the charger is plugged in, results only in a flicker of the power led. I tried different chargers, ANY possible power options combinations in Vista and Win7. If I boot from battery and enter Windows Safe Mode, or Hiren's boot CD, or WinXP mini all works fine even if I connect the power cord, where normal Windows and BIOS freeze istantly. I'm even thing of giving current directly by the battery contacts... may this be possible? Any help or advice on possible causes or solution to this issue would be grateful. Thank you ![]() What do you mean by freezing, there are devices sold that either heat or cool, but those are normally sold as refrigerators and heaters. *Do you mean the mouse stops moving, or what???? yes the computer stops working, hangs. |
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If the charger is not plugged into the wall when you insert it into your
Toshiba, does the PC hang? I'm thinking the socket in the Toshiba may be shorting out in some fashion when a plug, dead or alive, is inserted. On 4/23/2010 1:00 PM, Mike De Petris wrote: I have a Toshiba Satellite A205 - S4777 that works perfect while on battery, but the instance i plug the charger in, it freezes. First i thought it was a Vista-Toshiba issue but only to discover that even in BIOS it freezes instantly when the charger is plugged in. When the laptop is off, any attempt to power it on while the charger is plugged in, results only in a flicker of the power led. I tried different chargers, ANY possible power options combinations in Vista and Win7. If I boot from battery and enter Windows Safe Mode, or Hiren's boot CD, or WinXP mini all works fine even if I connect the power cord, where normal Windows and BIOS freeze istantly. I'm even thing of giving current directly by the battery contacts... may this be possible? Any help or advice on possible causes or solution to this issue would be grateful. Thank you ![]() |
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On Apr 24, 7:13*pm, Bennett Price wrote:
If the charger is not plugged into the wall when you insert it into your Toshiba, does the PC hang? *I'm thinking the socket in the Toshiba may be shorting out in some fashion when a plug, dead or alive, is inserted. no, I tried keeping the charged plugged into the notebook with mains disconnected, and it works normally with battery, hang occurs as soon as I connect the charger to the mains |
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Mike De Petris wrote:
no, I tried keeping the charged plugged into the notebook with mains disconnected, and it works normally with battery, hang occurs as soon as I connect the charger to the mains Let me see if H ave this right. With the charger plugged into the lap top, but NOT connected to the mains, the laptop functions properly. If you plug the power supply into the mains, the laptop goes stupid and hangs up. IF that's the case, I would suspect that something is wrong with the charging supply. Such as the voltage is way high, causing the laptop top get annoyed and hang up. Have you measured the charger output with no load on it? (I.e. not plugged into the laptop.) -- “Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity.” Frank Leahy, Head coach, Notre Dame 1941-1954 http://www.stay-connect.com |
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On Apr 24, 8:30*pm, Jeffrey D Angus wrote:
Mike De Petris wrote: no, I tried keeping the charged plugged into the notebook with mains disconnected, and it works normally with battery, hang occurs as soon as I connect the charger to the mains Let me see if H ave this right. With the charger plugged into the lap top, but NOT connected to the mains, the laptop functions properly. If you plug the power supply into the mains, the laptop goes stupid and hangs up. IF that's the case, I would suspect that something is wrong with the charging supply. Such as the voltage is way high, causing the laptop top get annoyed and hang up. Have you measured the charger output with no load on it? (I.e. not plugged into the laptop.) I measured the voltage and it's normal, tried several chargers anyway |
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Mike De Petris wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:30 pm, Jeffrey D Angus wrote: Mike De Petris wrote: no, I tried keeping the charged plugged into the notebook with mains disconnected, and it works normally with battery, hang occurs as soon as I connect the charger to the mains Let me see if H ave this right. With the charger plugged into the lap top, but NOT connected to the mains, the laptop functions properly. If you plug the power supply into the mains, the laptop goes stupid and hangs up. IF that's the case, I would suspect that something is wrong with the charging supply. Such as the voltage is way high, causing the laptop top get annoyed and hang up. Have you measured the charger output with no load on it? (I.e. not plugged into the laptop.) I measured the voltage and it's normal, tried several chargers anyway Its your power management drivers and GUI software that is a problem.. uninstall and install the original drivers from the CD's or web sight for that laptop. Since the unit seems to be locking, the driver software could be most likely is the issue and maybe proprietary to that lap top Things like this happen after a Windows update, unexpected error on the HD, some one removed something they shouldn't of or, a funny program is running on board.. It's possible a bad onboard support circuit but I doubt that very much. A simple test to prove this would be to boot to bias so the basics of the machine is on and energize the charger to see if a lock takes place there. Next, boot into safe mode, and try the same thing.. If all is ok up to this point. correct the software on board. Have a good day. P.S. some Laptops have a partition on the HD that has special set up software at boot time to configure the proprietary onboard chips.. This also could be an issue.. |
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On Apr 24, 8:30*pm, Meat Plow wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:00:57 -0700 (PDT), Mike De Petris wrote: I have a Toshiba Satellite A205 - S4777 that works perfect while on battery, but the instance i plug the charger in, it freezes. First i thought it was a Vista-Toshiba issue but only to discover that even in BIOS it freezes instantly when the charger is plugged in. When the laptop is off, any attempt to power it on while the charger is plugged in, results only in a flicker of the power led. I tried different chargers, ANY possible power options combinations in Vista and Win7. If I boot from battery and enter Windows Safe Mode, or Hiren's boot CD, or WinXP mini all works fine even if I connect the power cord, where normal Windows and BIOS freeze istantly. I'm even thing of giving current directly by the battery contacts... may this be possible? Any help or advice on possible causes or solution to this issue would be grateful. Thank you ![]() Uninstall the Toshiba Power Managemnt utility if you have it installed. If that fixes it try reinstalling it. If you don't have the utility installed go to Toshiba and see if it is available for your 205 and the Vista platform. I have plain Windows 7 installed at the moment, no Toshiba nor other utilities, even never connected to the network. Anyway it freezes even in the BIOS when connecting power. |
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On Apr 24, 9:48*pm, Mike De Petris wrote:
On Apr 24, 8:30*pm, Meat Plow wrote: On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:00:57 -0700 (PDT), Mike De Petris wrote: I have a Toshiba Satellite A205 - S4777 that works perfect while on battery, but the instance i plug the charger in, it freezes. First i thought it was a Vista-Toshiba issue but only to discover that even in BIOS it freezes instantly when the charger is plugged in. When the laptop is off, any attempt to power it on while the charger is plugged in, results only in a flicker of the power led. I tried different chargers, ANY possible power options combinations in Vista and Win7. If I boot from battery and enter Windows Safe Mode, or Hiren's boot CD, or WinXP mini all works fine even if I connect the power cord, where normal Windows and BIOS freeze istantly. I'm even thing of giving current directly by the battery contacts... may this be possible? Any help or advice on possible causes or solution to this issue would be grateful. Thank you ![]() Uninstall the Toshiba Power Managemnt utility if you have it installed. If that fixes it try reinstalling it. If you don't have the utility installed go to Toshiba and see if it is available for your 205 and the Vista platform. I have plain Windows 7 installed at the moment, no Toshiba nor other utilities, even never connected to the network. Anyway it freezes even in the BIOS when connecting power. don't know what more to check! |
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On 8 May, 11:57, Mike De Petris wrote:
On Apr 24, 9:48*pm, Mike De Petris wrote: On Apr 24, 8:30*pm, Meat Plow wrote: On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:00:57 -0700 (PDT), Mike De Petris wrote: I have a Toshiba Satellite A205 - S4777 that works perfect while on battery, but the instance i plug the charger in, it freezes. First i thought it was a Vista-Toshiba issue but only to discover that even in BIOS it freezes instantly when the charger is plugged in. When the laptop is off, any attempt to power it on while the charger is plugged in, results only in a flicker of the power led. I tried different chargers, ANY possible power options combinations in Vista and Win7. If I boot from battery and enter Windows Safe Mode, or Hiren's boot CD, or WinXP mini all works fine even if I connect the power cord, where normal Windows and BIOS freeze istantly. I'm even thing of giving current directly by the battery contacts... may this be possible? Any help or advice on possible causes or solution to this issue would be grateful. Thank you ![]() Uninstall the Toshiba Power Managemnt utility if you have it installed. If that fixes it try reinstalling it. If you don't have the utility installed go to Toshiba and see if it is available for your 205 and the Vista platform. I have plain Windows 7 installed at the moment, no Toshiba nor other utilities, even never connected to the network. Anyway it freezes even in the BIOS when connecting power. don't know what more to check! the laptop is still apart, had little time to experiment, the two fuses are ok will have to test capacitors, in the while I took away the cmos battery and soldered two wires to use a standard cr2032 but nothing changes my idea now, is that if I am not able to find the faulty component, that may well be a custom one, I will try to cut the connections to the battery poles and connect using a 2-way deviator, so that in one position the lapton can work like now, charging the battery when switched off, or running on battery only, or trun the deviator/switch and give voltage directly to the cutted terminals, excluding the battery, with an external power supply, the pc should still detect the battery charge level from other contacts of battery in place should this work? |
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