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Sanyo DP26648 television, white screen.
This Sanyo DP26648 television powers up with a white screen. Looking through
the archives, it has been reported that there is a defective ribbon cable that causes this problem. One specific report which is detailed he http://www.docendi.org/sanyo-t240744...48e0935&am p; says, "Clean glue like material from spaced further apart trace of FFC ribbon - or Replace the ribbon wire P/N: N6CD FFC Connects panel to timing control assy." The comment about the glue like material makes sense. The second part about the "further apart trace," doesn't make sense to me. Secondly, the connector that is interfaced with the cable seems to be one of those zif connectors. Anyone know the sweet spot on how to open those things? I know that one push in the wrong direction will snap that thing right off the pc board. If need be, I can photograph it and upload it later. Thanks for your reply. -- David Farber David Farber's Service Center L.A., CA |
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Sanyo DP26648 television, white screen.
David Farber wrote:
This Sanyo DP26648 television powers up with a white screen. Looking through the archives, it has been reported that there is a defective ribbon cable that causes this problem. One specific report which is detailed he http://www.docendi.org/sanyo-t240744...48e0935&am p; says, "Clean glue like material from spaced further apart trace of FFC ribbon - or Replace the ribbon wire P/N: N6CD FFC Connects panel to timing control assy." The comment about the glue like material makes sense. The second part about the "further apart trace," doesn't make sense to me. Secondly, the connector that is interfaced with the cable seems to be one of those zif connectors. Anyone know the sweet spot on how to open those things? I know that one push in the wrong direction will snap that thing right off the pc board. If need be, I can photograph it and upload it later. Thanks for your reply. Here is a link to a picture of the connector. http://members.dslextreme.com/users/...epair/zif.html Thanks for your reply. -- David Farber David Farber's Service Center L.A., CA |
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Sanyo DP26648 television, white screen.
On Jan 19, 4:20*pm, "David Farber" wrote:
David Farber wrote: This Sanyo DP26648 television powers up with a white screen. Looking through the archives, it has been reported that there is a defective ribbon cable that causes this problem. One specific report which is detailed he http://www.docendi.org/sanyo-t240744...125947468fde14.... says, "Clean glue like material from spaced further apart trace of FFC ribbon - or Replace the ribbon wire P/N: N6CD FFC Connects panel to timing control assy." The comment about the glue like material makes sense. The second part about the "further apart trace," doesn't make sense to me. Secondly, the connector that is interfaced with the cable seems to be one of those zif connectors. Anyone know the sweet spot on how to open those things? I know that one push in the wrong direction will snap that thing right off the pc board. If need be, I can photograph it and upload it later. Thanks for your reply. Here is a link to a picture of the connector.http://members.dslextreme.com/users/...epair/zif.html Thanks for your reply. -- David Farber David Farber's Service Center L.A., CA From the looks of the cable, with no experience on this set at all... Many of the zif connectors look alike from the top, but the way they actually disconnect is told by looking at the ends of them. Usually, you can pull the black piece up a hair, and slip the cable out. Some cheap connectors want to break if you pull the top header off all of the way. Some cables have interlocks though, so you can't pull the cable out without taking the header off. I haven't seen these in a long time outside of industrial applications. |
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Sanyo DP26648 television, white screen.
Sansui Samari wrote:
On Jan 19, 4:20 pm, "David Farber" wrote: David Farber wrote: This Sanyo DP26648 television powers up with a white screen. Looking through the archives, it has been reported that there is a defective ribbon cable that causes this problem. One specific report which is detailed he http://www.docendi.org/sanyo-t240744...125947468fde14... says, "Clean glue like material from spaced further apart trace of FFC ribbon - or Replace the ribbon wire P/N: N6CD FFC Connects panel to timing control assy." The comment about the glue like material makes sense. The second part about the "further apart trace," doesn't make sense to me. Secondly, the connector that is interfaced with the cable seems to be one of those zif connectors. Anyone know the sweet spot on how to open those things? I know that one push in the wrong direction will snap that thing right off the pc board. If need be, I can photograph it and upload it later. Thanks for your reply. Here is a link to a picture of the connector.http://members.dslextreme.com/users/...epair/zif.html Thanks for your reply. -- David Farber David Farber's Service Center L.A., CA From the looks of the cable, with no experience on this set at all... Many of the zif connectors look alike from the top, but the way they actually disconnect is told by looking at the ends of them. Usually, you can pull the black piece up a hair, and slip the cable out. Some cheap connectors want to break if you pull the top header off all of the way. Some cables have interlocks though, so you can't pull the cable out without taking the header off. I haven't seen these in a long time outside of industrial applications. I wound up prying underneath the black piece very gently with two small screwdrivers. I just made my way across the piece with the screwdrivers putting slight pressure on it. It took several times to see any progress. Eventually, the piece started to rotate and finally stood up at a right angle. I got the feeling that one extra ounce of force was going to destroy that thing. I really didn't see anything that resembled glue in or near the connector. There was some double-sided tape midway down the cable to secure it but I don't see how that could have interfered with the connections. Thanks for your reply. -- David Farber David Farber's Service Center L.A., CA |
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Sanyo DP26648 television, white screen.
David Farber wrote:
Sansui Samari wrote: On Jan 19, 4:20 pm, "David Farber" wrote: David Farber wrote: This Sanyo DP26648 television powers up with a white screen. Looking through the archives, it has been reported that there is a defective ribbon cable that causes this problem. One specific report which is detailed he http://www.docendi.org/sanyo-t240744...125947468fde14... says, "Clean glue like material from spaced further apart trace of FFC ribbon - or Replace the ribbon wire P/N: N6CD FFC Connects panel to timing control assy." The comment about the glue like material makes sense. The second part about the "further apart trace," doesn't make sense to me. Secondly, the connector that is interfaced with the cable seems to be one of those zif connectors. Anyone know the sweet spot on how to open those things? I know that one push in the wrong direction will snap that thing right off the pc board. If need be, I can photograph it and upload it later. Thanks for your reply. Here is a link to a picture of the connector.http://members.dslextreme.com/users/...epair/zif.html Thanks for your reply. -- David Farber David Farber's Service Center L.A., CA From the looks of the cable, with no experience on this set at all... Many of the zif connectors look alike from the top, but the way they actually disconnect is told by looking at the ends of them. Usually, you can pull the black piece up a hair, and slip the cable out. Some cheap connectors want to break if you pull the top header off all of the way. Some cables have interlocks though, so you can't pull the cable out without taking the header off. I haven't seen these in a long time outside of industrial applications. I wound up prying underneath the black piece very gently with two small screwdrivers. I just made my way across the piece with the screwdrivers putting slight pressure on it. It took several times to see any progress. Eventually, the piece started to rotate and finally stood up at a right angle. I got the feeling that one extra ounce of force was going to destroy that thing. I really didn't see anything that resembled glue in or near the connector. There was some double-sided tape midway down the cable to secure it but I don't see how that could have interfered with the connections. Thanks for your reply. I received the new cable today and installed it. Problem fixed. I guess that was a good tip after all. -- David Farber David Farber's Service Center L.A., CA |
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Sanyo DP26648 television, white screen.
Thanks all..
I fixed my Sanyo dp26648 by working over the ribbon cable as advised. The zif connector was a hinged black flap with a snap hook on each end. Prying up the middle away from the cable, then prying the ends up, worked. The corrosive glue didn't appear to corode the cable in any way, but stuck the cable so firmly that care in pulling the cable away evenly so the cable wouldn't stretch or warp was imperative ? Glue removal by rubbing in one direction rolled it off. Then LPS #1 for a corrosive cleaner/lubricant/corrosion-inhibitor helped make E-contact for the ribbon when reconnected, and then the TV-LCD worked fine. So no parts were required & the real problem seemed to be bad electrical connections on the ribbon cable ends, possibly due to a thin cable in a high pressure socket, directly over a heat source & the cable ends might not be corosion resistant ? I got a free DP26648 & fixed it for free in a half hour.... Thankx again to all bitdog |
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