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How does a CRT end up with a vertical line of dead pixels?

Sylvia.

Sylvia Else wrote:
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How does a CRT end up with a vertical line of dead pixels?


Faulty digital frame buffer.

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How does a CRT end up with a vertical line of dead pixels?

Sylvia.

I've never seen a crt with a line of dead anything ! If its a dead
straight vertical line then its unlikely to be the crt. Possibly some
artifact of the video feed... maybe ?

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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:22:06 +1100, Sylvia Else
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How does a CRT end up with a vertical line of dead pixels?

Sylvia.

It processes the signal as digital then converts to analog for the CRT
driver. I'd guess it is not going to be worth trying to fix, something
is gone in the digital section(s).

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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:22:06 +1100, Sylvia Else
wrote:

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How does a CRT end up with a vertical line of dead pixels?

Sylvia.

It processes the signal as digital then converts to analog for the CRT
driver. I'd guess it is not going to be worth trying to fix, something
is gone in the digital section(s).


some chip in the frame memory?

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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:22:06 +1100, Sylvia Else
wrote:

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How does a CRT end up with a vertical line of dead pixels?

Sylvia.
It processes the signal as digital then converts to analog for the CRT
driver. I'd guess it is not going to be worth trying to fix, something
is gone in the digital section(s).


some chip in the frame memory?

Could it possibly be a stabilising wire as in the Trinitrons(I know they
are usually horizontal)

Ron

Sylvia Else wrote:
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How does a CRT end up with a vertical line of dead pixels?

It doesn't. : I suspect there are *two* "lines of dead
pixels" in this CRT -- though only one is probably visible
(luck?).

There are two (3?) wires that cross the screen (usually horizontally
but since this is a wider aspect ratio screen, they might be
oriented vertically) used to stabilize the aperture grill.

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baron wrote:

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How does a CRT end up with a vertical line of dead pixels?

I've never seen a crt with a line of dead anything ! If its a dead
straight vertical line then its unlikely to be the crt. Possibly some
artifact of the video feed... maybe ?

It's a Trinitron tube. This type of CRT doesn't use a shadow mask.
Instead, it uses a shadow grid - a bunch of very fine parallel
vertical wires, stretched from top to bottom.

An occasional fault in a Trinotron is for one of the shadow wires to
end up out of position. If I recall properly, this can happen if
somebody uses an external degausser - the magnetic field can shove one
wire across the one next to it. This will cause a subtle vertical
stripe to appear on the screen.,. looks rather like a row of dead
pixels.

I think there's a Field Engineering Repair procedure for this...
rapping sideways on the case, with just the right amount of force, to
jar the stuck wires apart and allow the displaced one to snap back to
its correct position. I don't know how much force is required.

One can sometimes see this effect even on a perfectly good
Trinotron tube... I think that in some models there are vertical
reinforcing rods in the grid assembly which can produce a shadow on
the tube.

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Dave Platt wrote:

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baron wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/yz3eko4

How does a CRT end up with a vertical line of dead pixels?

I've never seen a crt with a line of dead anything ! If its a dead
straight vertical line then its unlikely to be the crt. Possibly some
artifact of the video feed... maybe ?

It's a Trinitron tube. This type of CRT doesn't use a shadow mask.
Instead, it uses a shadow grid - a bunch of very fine parallel
vertical wires, stretched from top to bottom.

An occasional fault in a Trinotron is for one of the shadow wires to
end up out of position. If I recall properly, this can happen if
somebody uses an external degausser - the magnetic field can shove one
wire across the one next to it. This will cause a subtle vertical
stripe to appear on the screen.,. looks rather like a row of dead
pixels.

I think there's a Field Engineering Repair procedure for this...
rapping sideways on the case, with just the right amount of force, to
jar the stuck wires apart and allow the displaced one to snap back to
its correct position. I don't know how much force is required.

One can sometimes see this effect even on a perfectly good
Trinotron tube... I think that in some models there are vertical
reinforcing rods in the grid assembly which can produce a shadow on
the tube.


Dave: Thanks for those notes. I wasn't aware of the vertical wire grid
in a Trinitron tube. I knew about the two horizontal ones. I can
actually see those in my screen.

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Adrian C wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:
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How does a CRT end up with a vertical line of dead pixels?


Faulty digital frame buffer.

I'd be surprised if a television like that had a frame buffer. What
would it be for?

Sylvia.

Sylvia Else wrote:
Adrian C wrote:
How does a CRT end up with a vertical line of dead pixels?

Faulty digital frame buffer.

I'd be surprised if a television like that had a frame buffer. What
would it be for?

The set features a digital tuner.

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Adrian C wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:
Adrian C wrote:
How does a CRT end up with a vertical line of dead pixels?

Faulty digital frame buffer.

I'd be surprised if a television like that had a frame buffer. What
would it be for?

The set features a digital tuner.

Fair point. Still, if the pixels were dead only in digital reception
mode, I think the seller would have said so.

Sylvia.

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:13:57 +1100, Sylvia Else
wrote:

Adrian C wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/yz3eko4

How does a CRT end up with a vertical line of dead pixels?


Faulty digital frame buffer.

I'd be surprised if a television like that had a frame buffer. What
would it be for?

Sylvia.

Read the specifications, the video is digital to the CRT. Basically a
'cross-over' model on the way to full (LCD etc.) digital. Frame
buffers are not unusual in these types of sets (the wide-screen
variety)

Sylvia Else wrote:
Adrian C wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/yz3eko4

How does a CRT end up with a vertical line of dead pixels?

Faulty digital frame buffer.

I'd be surprised if a television like that had a frame buffer. What
would it be for?

Sylvia.
Freeze pic/digital zoom in/out.

It's entirely possible that the fault is actually as you've suggested.
I'd try degaussing the middle of the line, in the hopes of shaking
the wire loose.

Get a rubber mallet and hit it in the face - pretty hard. If the
aperture grill lines are twisted, that will set them straight. I've
done this after a nasty trip with an external degaussing coil.

Simply lifting the set and dropping it gently (???) might fix the problem.
This happend to my Sony WEGA in March when it was moved from the LR to the
BR. The splotch disappeared, and has not come back.