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128 BIT 32x4 PROMS?
Proms are Harris semiconductor but I've lost the orignal chip.
I've got a Zilog MCZ 1/05 development system. A memory decode prom on the 12/48K memory card (fitted with max 3x16K banks other 16k for 64k is on CPU card) has blown and was running hot. About 10 years ago I made a decoder from TTL but it's 5 chips on a board attached to the socket by a flying lead. I've tried to reconfigure the memory so it bank switches the monitor EPROM for memory on the CPU card thus reducing the decode to a simple A14 and A15 bank select on the 48k card but hit a race problem. I'd like something that can mounted on the socket instead of a card. Any ideas on lower chip count replacement? Even PIC or amtel if it can decode the 5 input lines and select the memory bank in 20ns -- Peter Hill Spamtrap reply domain as per NNTP-Posting-Host in header Can of worms - what every fisherman wants. Can of worms - what every PC owner gets! |
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128 BIT 32x4 PROMS?
In article , peter.usenet1
@nospam.demon.co.uk says... Proms are Harris semiconductor but I've lost the orignal chip. I've got a Zilog MCZ 1/05 development system. A memory decode prom on the 12/48K memory card (fitted with max 3x16K banks other 16k for 64k is on CPU card) has blown and was running hot. About 10 years ago I made a decoder from TTL but it's 5 chips on a board attached to the socket by a flying lead. I've tried to reconfigure the memory so it bank switches the monitor EPROM for memory on the CPU card thus reducing the decode to a simple A14 and A15 bank select on the 48k card but hit a race problem. I'd like something that can mounted on the socket instead of a card. Any ideas on lower chip count replacement? Even PIC or amtel if it can decode the 5 input lines and select the memory bank in 20ns Are you sure it wasn't a 32 X 8 ? I have/remember 256 X 4 and 1024 X 4, but I haven't seen any 32 X 4. I have both the open collector and the tristate versions of the 32 X 8 BPROMs and I can program them too. Here is a pinout of the 32 X 8 : http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/data...ips/82S123.pdf |
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128 BIT 32x4 PROMS?
On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:31:39 -0400, WangoTango
wrote: In article , peter.usenet1 says... Proms are Harris semiconductor but I've lost the orignal chip. I've got a Zilog MCZ 1/05 development system. A memory decode prom on the 12/48K memory card (fitted with max 3x16K banks other 16k for 64k is on CPU card) has blown and was running hot. About 10 years ago I made a decoder from TTL but it's 5 chips on a board attached to the socket by a flying lead. I've tried to reconfigure the memory so it bank switches the monitor EPROM for memory on the CPU card thus reducing the decode to a simple A14 and A15 bank select on the 48k card but hit a race problem. I'd like something that can mounted on the socket instead of a card. Any ideas on lower chip count replacement? Even PIC or amtel if it can decode the 5 input lines and select the memory bank in 20ns Are you sure it wasn't a 32 X 8 ? I have/remember 256 X 4 and 1024 X 4, but I haven't seen any 32 X 4. I have both the open collector and the tristate versions of the 32 X 8 BPROMs and I can program them too. Here is a pinout of the 32 X 8 : http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/data...ips/82S123.pdf Found the hardware ref manual in the attic, yup it's 32x8, 7603. Also seems to be 50ns not 20ns. Usual rate of exchange 1 GPB = 1 USD? http://www.cricklewoodelectronics.co...&pa ge=5&js=n -- Peter Hill Spamtrap reply domain as per NNTP-Posting-Host in header Can of worms - what every fisherman wants. Can of worms - what every PC owner gets! |
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128 BIT 32x4 PROMS?
On Aug 8, 6:33*am, Peter Hill
wrote: Proms are Harris semiconductor but I've lost the orignal chip. I've got a Zilog MCZ 1/05 development system. A memory decode prom on the 12/48K memory card (fitted with max 3x16K banks other 16k for 64k is on CPU card) has blown and was running hot. .... decode the 5 input lines and select the memory bank in 20ns Is this to decode 5 input lines into only 3 bank selects? Would a 74F138 do it? It takes three inputs plus three select lines, outputs 8 bank select signals - you might be able to OR outputs, there's some time slack. With several 74F138's, you can do almost any 5-input decoder. |
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128 BIT 32x4 PROMS?
In article , peter.usenet1
@nospam.demon.co.uk says... On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 11:31:39 -0400, WangoTango wrote: In article , peter.usenet1 says... Proms are Harris semiconductor but I've lost the orignal chip. I've got a Zilog MCZ 1/05 development system. A memory decode prom on the 12/48K memory card (fitted with max 3x16K banks other 16k for 64k is on CPU card) has blown and was running hot. About 10 years ago I made a decoder from TTL but it's 5 chips on a board attached to the socket by a flying lead. I've tried to reconfigure the memory so it bank switches the monitor EPROM for memory on the CPU card thus reducing the decode to a simple A14 and A15 bank select on the 48k card but hit a race problem. I'd like something that can mounted on the socket instead of a card. Any ideas on lower chip count replacement? Even PIC or amtel if it can decode the 5 input lines and select the memory bank in 20ns Are you sure it wasn't a 32 X 8 ? I have/remember 256 X 4 and 1024 X 4, but I haven't seen any 32 X 4. I have both the open collector and the tristate versions of the 32 X 8 BPROMs and I can program them too. Here is a pinout of the 32 X 8 : http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/data...ips/82S123.pdf Found the hardware ref manual in the attic, yup it's 32x8, 7603. Also seems to be 50ns not 20ns. Usual rate of exchange 1 GPB = 1 USD? http://www.cricklewoodelectronics.co...&pa ge=5&js=n Do you have the hex/bin file or a truth table? I would be more than happy to program one up for you and toss it in the mail. Hell, with just 32 entries I could enter the bytes by hand faster than running the truth table through CUPL. |
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