Black&Decker toast R oven won't get hot
I have one of those TRO962 toaster ovens in beige which wont start:
The light goes on but it doesnt heat up on the oven setting. Also there is no model number sticker on it. I also have an old dirty unit which looks identical but in stainless steel which does work. Can there be anything obvious which is preventing the newer one from working which might let me take a part off the old one please? There are 4 elements in it so I presume it isnt the elements which need changing. Is there some type of relay which controls all these elements please? |
Black&Decker toast R oven won't get hot
"DManzaluni" wrote in message ... I have one of those TRO962 toaster ovens in beige which wont start: The light goes on but it doesnt heat up on the oven setting. Also there is no model number sticker on it. I also have an old dirty unit which looks identical but in stainless steel which does work. Can there be anything obvious which is preventing the newer one from working which might let me take a part off the old one please? There are 4 elements in it so I presume it isnt the elements which need changing. Is there some type of relay which controls all these elements please? Built in timer ? The oven temperature thermostat ? Oven function switch ? Should be a breeze to find the problem with nothing more than a multimeter. Even a neon-test screwdriver, at a pinch ... Arfa |
Black&Decker toast R oven won't get hot
DManzaluni wrote:
I have one of those TRO962 toaster ovens in beige which wont start: The light goes on but it doesnt heat up on the oven setting. Also there is no model number sticker on it. I also have an old dirty unit which looks identical but in stainless steel which does work. Can there be anything obvious which is preventing the newer one from working which might let me take a part off the old one please? There are 4 elements in it so I presume it isnt the elements which need changing. Is there some type of relay which controls all these elements please? Don't jack with it. Call Black & Decker. They'll probably replace it free of charge - if you bought it within the last year (wink-wink). |
Black&Decker toast R oven won't get hot
This is arguably THE classic toaster-oven. It's undergone several cosmetic
changes over the past 30+ years. My first one -- a GE -- lasted 10 years. The second -- a Bondage & Discipline -- lasted more than 20, until the solenoid jammed and would not release the AC line. Had that not happened, the unit would be close to celebrating its 21st year of existence. That was two months ago. After reading multiple consumer Web reviews of toasters from a variety of manufacturers, the consensus being that /all/ toasters are junk, regardless of price or manufacturer, I replaced it with a $30 B&D TRO490W, which appears to be sold only at Target. As for yours... This isn't a complex device. Remove the right panel, and look for loose or broken connections. Most of the joints are welded, so you might have some trouble restoring the broken one. When you replace the cover, be sure nothing touches the metal panel. PS: B&D is one of many brands owned by Fox International, a major parts distributor in the US. Whether this means they're motivated to make highly reliable products, or the opposite, I don't know. |
Black&Decker toast R oven won't get hot
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:01:51 -0800 (PST), DManzaluni
wrote: I have one of those TRO962 toaster ovens in beige which wont start: The light goes on but it doesnt heat up on the oven setting. Also there is no model number sticker on it. I also have an old dirty unit which looks identical but in stainless steel which does work. Can there be anything obvious which is preventing the newer one from working which might let me take a part off the old one please? There are 4 elements in it so I presume it isnt the elements which need changing. Is there some type of relay which controls all these elements please? Look for an 'over temperature' thermostat which would be in series with the element. A few checks with an ohm meter will isolate the problem. |
Black&Decker toast R oven won't get hot
On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:58:14 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
wrote: This is arguably THE classic toaster-oven. It's undergone several cosmetic changes over the past 30+ years. My first one -- a GE -- lasted 10 years. The second -- a Bondage & Discipline -- Since you bring this up, I'll tell you all a story. My best friend lived in Harrisburg Pa. I was living in NYC and I hadn't seen him for a couple years. When I went to visit, he told me he was engaged, and he met his fiancee at an S M party. Determine to like my friend's fiancee no matter what, I casually asked, Sado-Masochism? No, he said, Singles Mingles. lasted more than 20, until the solenoid jammed and would not release the AC line. Had that not happened, the unit would be close to celebrating its 21st year of existence. |
Black&Decker toast R oven won't get hot
This is arguably THE classic toaster-oven.
Agree. I even silver-soldered new Calrods into mine once. But the new ones they make are just junk. One reviewer -- who claimed to be an EE -- excoriated his year-old $150 Krups. Seems that one of the wires burned loose from its connection. He had difficulty fixing it. Had I seen good reviews of /any/ brand of "expensive" toaster (ie, $50), I would probably have bought one. But I couldn't find any. So I bought a $30 unit. Heck, if it's made in China, it shouldn't cost any more. There are two disappointing things about this unit. One is the change from a bimetallic strip to a timer to set the toast darkness. (Almost all toasters, regardless of price, have switched to this system, which makes getting consistent darkness over multiple cycles difficult.) The other is that opening the door doesn't shut off the current! This is a major inconvenience -- and possible safety problem -- when I have to prematurely terminate the toast cycle. PS: You can clean Calrod units very nicely by dunking them in a strong solution of citrus-based industrial cleaner and water. It really strips off the shmutz, stuff you'd never believe would come loose. |
Black&Decker toast R oven won't get hot
On Jan 14, 7:58*am, "William Sommerwerck"
wrote: This is arguably THE classic toaster-oven. It's undergone several cosmetic changes over the past 30+ years. My first one -- a GE -- lasted 10 years. The second -- a Bondage & Discipline -- lasted more than 20, until the solenoid jammed and would not release the AC line. Had that not happened, the unit would be close to celebrating its 21st year of existence. That was two months ago. After reading multiple consumer Web reviews of toasters from a variety of manufacturers, the consensus being that /all/ toasters are junk, regardless of price or manufacturer, I replaced it with a $30 B&D TRO490W, which appears to be sold only at Target. As for yours... This isn't a complex device. Remove the right panel, and look for loose or broken connections. Most of the joints are welded, so you might have some trouble restoring the broken one. When you replace the cover, be sure nothing touches the metal panel. PS: B&D is one of many brands owned by Fox International, a major parts distributor in the US. Whether this means they're motivated to make highly reliable products, or the opposite, I don't know. Thanks for that: I took the cover off and there didnt seem to be much wrong inthere or many bad connections SPrayed with WD40 and jiggered a few connections and it SEEMS to have worked: The elements seem to start up now! |
Black&Decker toast R oven won't get hot
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:48:42 -0800 (PST), DManzaluni
wrote: On Jan 14, 7:58*am, "William Sommerwerck" wrote: This is arguably THE classic toaster-oven. It's undergone several cosmetic changes over the past 30+ years. My first one -- a GE -- lasted 10 years. The second -- a Bondage & Discipline -- lasted more than 20, until the solenoid jammed and would not release the AC line. Had that not happened, the unit would be close to celebrating its 21st year of existence. That was two months ago. After reading multiple consumer Web reviews of toasters from a variety of manufacturers, the consensus being that /all/ toasters are junk, regardless of price or manufacturer, I replaced it with a $30 B&D TRO490W, which appears to be sold only at Target. As for yours... This isn't a complex device. Remove the right panel, and look for loose or broken connections. Most of the joints are welded, so you might have some trouble restoring the broken one. When you replace the cover, be sure nothing touches the metal panel. PS: B&D is one of many brands owned by Fox International, a major parts distributor in the US. Whether this means they're motivated to make highly reliable products, or the opposite, I don't know. Thanks for that: I took the cover off and there didnt seem to be much wrong inthere or many bad connections SPrayed with WD40 and jiggered a few connections and it SEEMS to have worked: The elements seem to start up now! Which would tell me that one of the connections is loose. Probably one of the rivets. Try pinching the rivets, and look for one that looks like it got hot. |
Black&Decker toast R oven won't get hot
Sprayed with WD40 and jiggered a few connections and it
SEEMS to have worked: The elements seem to start up now! WHAT did you spray with WD40? You don't just go into an electrical device and squirt it with something that generally isn't USED in electrical devices. |
Black&Decker toast R oven won't get hot
On Jan 16, 7:54*am, "William Sommerwerck"
wrote: Sprayed with WD40 and jiggered a few connections and it SEEMS to have worked: The elements seem to start up now! WHAT did you spray with WD40? You don't just go into an electrical device and squirt it with something that generally isn't USED in electrical devices. Here's the scoop: I thought I had cleaned out the contacts and gave it a quick 1 second spray with WD40 from a foot or so away. It was just to clean (probably imperfectly) the points and so tiny an amount actually got to the electronics that it has hardly made any difference What it did do was to make the TOASTER part of it turn on and work! Unfortunately for something which looks so simple inside, the oven, curiously doesnt actually work at all! It may be something as simple as the pot under the temp control but the parts dont look easily interchangeable so I think I will junk the newer one and just go with the one which works |
Black&Decker toast R oven won't get hot
Unfortunately for something which looks so simple inside,
the oven, curiously doesn't actually work at all! It may be something as simple as the pot under the temp control... That seems likely. Maybe a cleaning will fix it. |
Black&Decker toast R oven won't get hot
On Jan 16, 10:03*pm, "William Sommerwerck"
wrote: Unfortunately for something which looks so simple inside, the oven, curiously doesn't actually work at all! *It may be something as simple as the pot under the temp control... That seems likely. Maybe a cleaning will fix it. Whenever I try that sort of thing, I ALWAYS find that it is both inaccessable and sealed. I only ever waste time dismantling it! |
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