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I have an old Crosley SDD-1 range that is in need of a replacement Nicrome
broil element wire. The carrier and insulators are in good condition but
of course the wire is burned out. It is 2600 watts at 220 V.

If anyone could tell me where to check for this rare item I would
appreciate it.

Thanks for reading

Gnack
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On Oct 30, 12:40*am, Gnack Nol wrote:
I have an old Crosley SDD-1 range that is in need of a replacement Nicrome
broil element wire. The carrier and insulators are in good condition but
of course the wire is burned out. It is 2600 watts at 220 V.


Your broil element is unshielded conductor connected to 220V;
modern elements are a grounded tube with ceramic fill around the
internal (nichrome) element. Try to get a modern element instead
of replacing the old one. It's safer.

Mine was relatively cheap ($35).
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On Oct 30, 12:40*am, Gnack Nol wrote:
I have an old Crosley SDD-1 range that is in need of a replacement Nicrome
broil element wire. The carrier and insulators are in good condition but
of course the wire is burned out. It is 2600 watts at 220 V.


Your broil element is unshielded conductor connected to 220V;
modern elements are a grounded tube with ceramic fill around the
internal (nichrome) element. Try to get a modern element instead
of replacing the old one. It's safer.

Mine was relatively cheap ($35).


If the chassis is earthed, where is the danger?

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On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:09:45 -0000, whit3rd wrote:

On Oct 30, 12:40*am, Gnack Nol wrote:
I have an old Crosley SDD-1 range that is in need of a replacement
Nicrome broil element wire. The carrier and insulators are in good
condition but of course the wire is burned out. It is 2600 watts at 220
V.


Your broil element is unshielded conductor connected to 220V; modern
elements are a grounded tube with ceramic fill around the internal
(nichrome) element. Try to get a modern element instead of replacing
the old one. It's safer.

Mine was relatively cheap ($35).


If the chassis is earthed, where is the danger?


Actually i had thought of doing that but there is a real problem in
mounting a modern kulrod element the oven uses a slide in pan thatcontains
the insulators and the element socket is totally incompatable.
To mount a modern replacement I'd have to drill holes in the oven wall and
that is a fatal fail on enameled walls. Also the element front support
would be problematic since there is no mounting points available.

Not a really good solution available that I can find.

Gnack

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On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:09:45 -0000, whit3rd wrote:
On Oct 30, 12:40*am, Gnack Nol wrote:
I have an old Crosley SDD-1 range that is in need of a replacement Nicrome
broil element wire. The carrier and insulators are in good condition but
of course the wire is burned out. It is 2600 watts at 220 V.


Your broil element is unshielded conductor connected to 220V;
modern elements are a grounded tube with ceramic fill around the
internal (nichrome) element. *Try to get a modern element instead
of replacing the old one. * It's safer.


Mine was relatively cheap ($35).


If the chassis is earthed, where is the danger?

--http://www.petersparrots.com* *http://www.insanevideoclips.com* *http://www.petersphotos.com

I had amnesia once -- or twice.


If you should touch the wire and touch the grounded chassis at the
same time.

New elements are literally a center conductor, surrounded with
insulation (ceramic) encased inside a metal tube that is grounded. As
long as the ceramic does not leak out, virtually an impossibility,
there is no way for the 22oV to reach the human being using the over.
Ther ceramic insulator is also why you should no bend suach a
preformed oven elelment.

BOb Hofmann


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On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:59:20 -0700, hr(bob) wrote:

On Oct 31, 1:19*pm, "Peter Hucker" wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:09:45 -0000, whit3rd wrote:
On Oct 30, 12:40*am, Gnack Nol wrote:
I have an old Crosley SDD-1 range that is in need of a replacement
Nicrome broil element wire. The carrier and insulators are in good
condition but of course the wire is burned out. It is 2600 watts at
220 V.


Your broil element is unshielded conductor connected to 220V; modern
elements are a grounded tube with ceramic fill around the internal
(nichrome) element. *Try to get a modern element instead of replacing
the old one. * It's safer.


Mine was relatively cheap ($35).


If the chassis is earthed, where is the danger?

--http://www.petersparrots.com* *
http://www.insanevideoclips.com*
*http://www.petersphotos.com

I had amnesia once -- or twice.


If you should touch the wire and touch the grounded chassis at the same
time.

New elements are literally a center conductor, surrounded with
insulation (ceramic) encased inside a metal tube that is grounded. As
long as the ceramic does not leak out, virtually an impossibility, there
is no way for the 22oV to reach the human being using the over. Ther
ceramic insulator is also why you should no bend suach a preformed oven
elelment.

BOb Hofmann


No Bob replacing the element with a modern one does not involve any
grounding problems nor wireing problems.

The problem in trying to do this is that the ceramic socket will not
accept any modern element and would need replacing if possible to find
one. Also there is no available mounting bracket to support the element
and it must be supported since it is the upper broil element not the
bottom bake element.

I wish I could find a one of the old terminal conversion kits and a
universal replacement element that used to be available for these ranges.
But since the old helpful couter men are now extinct thanks to the
uncaring companies that could care less about helping anyone and only hire
minimum wage know nothings that have little expertise beyond looking at a
computer screen.



Gnack

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On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:59:20 -0000, hr(bob) wrote:

On Oct 31, 1:19*pm, "Peter Hucker" wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:09:45 -0000, whit3rd wrote:
On Oct 30, 12:40*am, Gnack Nol wrote:
I have an old Crosley SDD-1 range that is in need of a replacement Nicrome
broil element wire. The carrier and insulators are in good condition but
of course the wire is burned out. It is 2600 watts at 220 V.


Your broil element is unshielded conductor connected to 220V;
modern elements are a grounded tube with ceramic fill around the
internal (nichrome) element. *Try to get a modern element instead
of replacing the old one. * It's safer.


Mine was relatively cheap ($35).


If the chassis is earthed, where is the danger?

--http://www.petersparrots.com* *
http://www.insanevideoclips.com* *http://www.petersphotos.com

I had amnesia once -- or twice.


If you should touch the wire and touch the grounded chassis at the
same time.

New elements are literally a center conductor, surrounded with
insulation (ceramic) encased inside a metal tube that is grounded. As
long as the ceramic does not leak out, virtually an impossibility,
there is no way for the 22oV to reach the human being using the over.
Ther ceramic insulator is also why you should no bend suach a
preformed oven elelment.


I'd be more concerned about touching a piece of metal at 1000C.

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I have an old Crosley SDD-1 range that is in need of a replacement
Nicrome broil element wire. The carrier and insulators are in good
condition but of course the wire is burned out. It is 2600 watts at
220 V.

If anyone could tell me where to check for this rare item I would
appreciate it.

Thanks for reading

Gnack


You could try a WE 11 X 60 General Electric Dryer heating element...

They come unstreched only concern might be the diameter.

Of course it's time to buy a new range...

before some gov'mt agency gets wind of this and shuts you down !!

R !

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Gnack Nol wrote in
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I have an old Crosley SDD-1 range that is in need of a replacement
Nicrome broil element wire. The carrier and insulators are in good
condition but of course the wire is burned out. It is 2600 watts at
220 V.

If anyone could tell me where to check for this rare item I would
appreciate it.

Thanks for reading

Gnack


You could try a WE 11 X 60 General Electric Dryer heating element...

They come unstreched only concern might be the diameter.

Of course it's time to buy a new range...

before some gov'mt agency gets wind of this and shuts you down !!


Couldn't resist:
http://hucker.plus.com/temp/OpenRange.jpg

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Gnack Nol wrote:
I have an old Crosley SDD-1 range that is in need of a replacement Nicrome
broil element wire. The carrier and insulators are in good condition but
of course the wire is burned out. It is 2600 watts at 220 V.

If anyone could tell me where to check for this rare item I would
appreciate it.

Thanks for reading

Gnack

http://www.infraredheaters.com/nicrcoil.htm


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Gnack Nol wrote in
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I have an old Crosley SDD-1 range that is in need of a replacement
Nicrome broil element wire. The carrier and insulators are in good
condition but of course the wire is burned out. It is 2600 watts at 220
V.

If anyone could tell me where to check for this rare item I would
appreciate it.

Thanks for reading

Gnack


You could try a WE 11 X 60 General Electric Dryer heating element...

They come unstreched only concern might be the diameter.

Of course it's time to buy a new range...

before some gov'mt agency gets wind of this and shuts you down !!

R !


I thought of that but there is a problem due to the makeup of the wire
it's only rated for an operating temperature maximum of 300 degrees and
quickly burns out in about a month.

Actually I'd replace the stove myself but my uncle whom it blongs to is
not wanting to let it go since it was his wife's pride and joy and she has
pased away. Sentimental problems are the worst.

Thanks for the suggestions though.

Thanks!

Gnack
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On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 20:58:36 +0000, Archon wrote:

Gnack Nol wrote:
I have an old Crosley SDD-1 range that is in need of a replacement
Nicrome broil element wire. The carrier and insulators are in good
condition but of course the wire is burned out. It is 2600 watts at 220
V.

If anyone could tell me where to check for this rare item I would
appreciate it.

Thanks for reading

Gnack

http://www.infraredheaters.com/nicrcoil.htm


Thanks for the link, it's one I had not found. I have been looking at the
various sources of prewound coils but have not really decided to go that
way since custom coils are extremely expensive and the math to figure out
total length vs wattage is quite daunting.

They are currently my source of last resort.

Thanks

Gnack

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Gnack Nol wrote:

Actually I'd replace the stove myself but my uncle whom it blongs to is
not wanting to let it go since it was his wife's pride and joy and she has
pased away.


Sheesh. How much does he cook, anyway? Just put a toaster oven inside
the range.
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In article , Smitty Two wrote:
In article ,
Gnack Nol wrote:

Actually I'd replace the stove myself but my uncle whom it blongs to is
not wanting to let it go since it was his wife's pride and joy and she has
pased away.


Sheesh. How much does he cook, anyway? Just put a toaster oven inside
the range.


You can buy a table top turbo oven fairly cheap. If he has room it should
work out great.

greg
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