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Want to build an amp
Not just any amp. I know how to do it and it is not only time to prove
myself, my Sansui fried So I need an amp. Going in, I want to protect my speakers, and my design will never distort. The gain stage that accomplishes that is shut down until it is needed, and there are other factors as well. If I pour myself into it, I will use this certain power trnasformer. This thing is bad to the one. It maintainms + and - sixty something volts even under a four ohm load on both sides. Cranking this thing up could blow a breaker in the main box, and did so. I think this is about one of the best I have ever seen. Highest power output. Thing is I have these speakers that I really like that can't handle all that juice, so I intend to put in a limiting system. I have given some thought to this. Since it has to work into low impedance I am thinking really hefty trasnsistors, three pairs of them per channel. And regulators, switchmode regulators. I intend to make ananalog algorithim. I want to make it whaere you can select the maximum power output, and it will regulate the rails down, but still provide a bit of instantaneous power. I intend to do this all in analog. The maximum power of this amp will be about 263 watts per channel into eight ohms, What I want to do is to protect my speakers. So I intrend to build in regulatiors. I am wrestling with the algorithm now. Do I detect current or voltage ? The deal is this, there will be three pairs of outputs in each channel. There will also be three swictmode FET regulators feeding each bank of them. This is to limit power. This is to save the speakers I like. Now the idea here is to give it alot of oomph. I want to deytect when the woofers are in over-excursion, and limit it to that. That user will have power levels to choose from, and that is the max, but then a lower average power is selected and the amp couold have as much as +12Db dynamic headroom. To do this, The regulators will have to operate at at least 100Khz. Maybe higher. I need top keep ahead of the demand. I want the impact my subwoofers can deliver, but I do not want to destroy my tweeters. This is a tall task in the analog domain, but I think I can do it. Now to provide the dynamic headroom, heretofore unseen on Earth, I will have to build a time constant into it. I will have to tkae into account what my speakers can tak as wel as the ouput devices, actually moreso. It is time, I am getting to the pimt where I really want to do this. I know I can. I have a very different bias cicuit that is tolerant of supply rail changes, I did find a wat to compensate. I know how to use commutator switches and efven analog commutators, but thet is not the direction I want to take. I want to give my amp alot of headtroom so it never distorts. Impossible you say ? I have already designed it. Even some generic 829 can do it, the trick to keep the distortion down is to keep the gain stage out of the loop untill and unless it is needed. In other words the 829 just shuts up until it is time. It will add a bit of residual noise but that is all. But this is more advanced, I want the power supply to tradck the audio, and provide a PREDETERMINED amount of extra power for a very short time. Don't get me wrong, set this thing to max and you got over 500 watts a channel into four ohms. It would be 600 into my speakers but it will never see that level unless I go spend money on something else. My speakers are good enough that I wnt to keep them, and they are good enough to land me in jail. How much more power do I need ? But I would consider this a personal achievement, to build this. We are talking twelve really good bipolars, twelve high speed FETs and four coils alomg with a few high performance lower capacity filters. I mean I want to detect when a woofer cone goes out of the magnetic field via current monitoring. I have never seen an amp do this right. I mean in a real time way with no digital. And this is only for the bass. I got plans for the rest of the audio spectrum as well. JURB |
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On Oct 12, 9:55 pm, wrote:
Not just any amp. I know how to do it and it is not only time to prove myself, my Sansui fried So I need an amp. Going in, I want to protect my speakers, and my design will never distort. The gain stage that accomplishes that is shut down until it is needed, and there are other factors as well. If I pour myself into it, I will use this certain power trnasformer. This thing is bad to the one. It maintainms + and - sixty something volts even under a four ohm load on both sides. Cranking this thing up could blow a breaker in the main box, and did so. I think this is about one of the best I have ever seen. Highest power output. Thing is I have these speakers that I really like that can't handle all that juice, so I intend to put in a limiting system. I have given some thought to this. Since it has to work into low impedance I am thinking really hefty trasnsistors, three pairs of them per channel. And regulators, switchmode regulators. I intend to make ananalog algorithim. I want to make it whaere you can select the maximum power output, and it will regulate the rails down, but still provide a bit of instantaneous power. I intend to do this all in analog. The maximum power of this amp will be about 263 watts per channel into eight ohms, What I want to do is to protect my speakers. So I intrend to build in regulatiors. I am wrestling with the algorithm now. Do I detect current or voltage ? The deal is this, there will be three pairs of outputs in each channel. There will also be three swictmode FET regulators feeding each bank of them. This is to limit power. This is to save the speakers I like. Now the idea here is to give it alot of oomph. I want to deytect when the woofers are in over-excursion, and limit it to that. That user will have power levels to choose from, and that is the max, but then a lower average power is selected and the amp couold have as much as +12Db dynamic headroom. To do this, The regulators will have to operate at at least 100Khz. Maybe higher. I need top keep ahead of the demand. I want the impact my subwoofers can deliver, but I do not want to destroy my tweeters. This is a tall task in the analog domain, but I think I can do it. Now to provide the dynamic headroom, heretofore unseen on Earth, I will have to build a time constant into it. I will have to tkae into account what my speakers can tak as wel as the ouput devices, actually moreso. It is time, I am getting to the pimt where I really want to do this. I know I can. I have a very different bias cicuit that is tolerant of supply rail changes, I did find a wat to compensate. I know how to use commutator switches and efven analog commutators, but thet is not the direction I want to take. I want to give my amp alot of headtroom so it never distorts. Impossible you say ? I have already designed it. Even some generic 829 can do it, the trick to keep the distortion down is to keep the gain stage out of the loop untill and unless it is needed. In other words the 829 just shuts up until it is time. It will add a bit of residual noise but that is all. But this is more advanced, I want the power supply to tradck the audio, and provide a PREDETERMINED amount of extra power for a very short time. Don't get me wrong, set this thing to max and you got over 500 watts a channel into four ohms. It would be 600 into my speakers but it will never see that level unless I go spend money on something else. My speakers are good enough that I wnt to keep them, and they are good enough to land me in jail. How much more power do I need ? But I would consider this a personal achievement, to build this. We are talking twelve really good bipolars, twelve high speed FETs and four coils alomg with a few high performance lower capacity filters. I mean I want to detect when a woofer cone goes out of the magnetic field via current monitoring. I have never seen an amp do this right. I mean in a real time way with no digital. And this is only for the bass. I got plans for the rest of the audio spectrum as well. JURB Why don't you learn how to use Google, Jerk. |
Want to build an amp
wrote in message ps.com... Not just any amp. I know how to do it and it is not only time to prove myself, my Sansui fried So I need an amp. Going in, I want to protect my speakers, and my design will never distort. The gain stage that accomplishes that is shut down until it is needed, and there are other factors as well. If I pour myself into it, I will use this certain power trnasformer. This thing is bad to the one. It maintainms + and - sixty something volts even under a four ohm load on both sides. Cranking this thing up could blow a breaker in the main box, and did so. I think this is about one of the best I have ever seen. Highest power output. Thing is I have these speakers that I really like that can't handle all that juice, so I intend to put in a limiting system. I have given some thought to this. Since it has to work into low impedance I am thinking really hefty trasnsistors, three pairs of them per channel. And regulators, switchmode regulators. I intend to make ananalog algorithim. I want to make it whaere you can select the maximum power output, and it will regulate the rails down, but still provide a bit of instantaneous power. I intend to do this all in analog. The maximum power of this amp will be about 263 watts per channel into eight ohms, What I want to do is to protect my speakers. So I intrend to build in regulatiors. I am wrestling with the algorithm now. Do I detect current or voltage ? The deal is this, there will be three pairs of outputs in each channel. There will also be three swictmode FET regulators feeding each bank of them. This is to limit power. This is to save the speakers I like. Now the idea here is to give it alot of oomph. I want to deytect when the woofers are in over-excursion, and limit it to that. That user will have power levels to choose from, and that is the max, but then a lower average power is selected and the amp couold have as much as +12Db dynamic headroom. To do this, The regulators will have to operate at at least 100Khz. Maybe higher. I need top keep ahead of the demand. I want the impact my subwoofers can deliver, but I do not want to destroy my tweeters. This is a tall task in the analog domain, but I think I can do it. Now to provide the dynamic headroom, heretofore unseen on Earth, I will have to build a time constant into it. I will have to tkae into account what my speakers can tak as wel as the ouput devices, actually moreso. It is time, I am getting to the pimt where I really want to do this. I know I can. I have a very different bias cicuit that is tolerant of supply rail changes, I did find a wat to compensate. I know how to use commutator switches and efven analog commutators, but thet is not the direction I want to take. I want to give my amp alot of headtroom so it never distorts. Impossible you say ? I have already designed it. Even some generic 829 can do it, the trick to keep the distortion down is to keep the gain stage out of the loop untill and unless it is needed. In other words the 829 just shuts up until it is time. It will add a bit of residual noise but that is all. But this is more advanced, I want the power supply to tradck the audio, and provide a PREDETERMINED amount of extra power for a very short time. Don't get me wrong, set this thing to max and you got over 500 watts a channel into four ohms. It would be 600 into my speakers but it will never see that level unless I go spend money on something else. My speakers are good enough that I wnt to keep them, and they are good enough to land me in jail. How much more power do I need ? But I would consider this a personal achievement, to build this. We are talking twelve really good bipolars, twelve high speed FETs and four coils alomg with a few high performance lower capacity filters. I mean I want to detect when a woofer cone goes out of the magnetic field via current monitoring. I have never seen an amp do this right. I mean in a real time way with no digital. And this is only for the bass. I got plans for the rest of the audio spectrum as well. JURB How about one of these? http://users.ece.gatech.edu/~mleach/lowtim/ I built one a few years ago and have been happy with it. It's all the power I could ever need. |
Want to build an amp
wrote in message ps.com... Not just any amp. I know how to do it and it is not only time to prove myself, my Sansui fried So I need an amp. Going in, I want to protect my speakers, and my design will never distort. The gain stage that accomplishes that is shut down until it is needed, and there are other factors as well. If I pour myself into it, I will use this certain power trnasformer. This thing is bad to the one. It maintainms + and - sixty something volts even under a four ohm load on both sides. Cranking this thing up could blow a breaker in the main box, and did so. I think this is about one of the best I have ever seen. Highest power output. Thing is I have these speakers that I really like that can't handle all that juice, so I intend to put in a limiting system. I have given some thought to this. Since it has to work into low impedance I am thinking really hefty trasnsistors, three pairs of them per channel. And regulators, switchmode regulators. I intend to make ananalog algorithim. I want to make it whaere you can select the maximum power output, and it will regulate the rails down, but still provide a bit of instantaneous power. I intend to do this all in analog. The maximum power of this amp will be about 263 watts per channel into eight ohms, What I want to do is to protect my speakers. So I intrend to build in regulatiors. I am wrestling with the algorithm now. Do I detect current or voltage ? The deal is this, there will be three pairs of outputs in each channel. There will also be three swictmode FET regulators feeding each bank of them. This is to limit power. This is to save the speakers I like. Now the idea here is to give it alot of oomph. I want to deytect when the woofers are in over-excursion, and limit it to that. That user will have power levels to choose from, and that is the max, but then a lower average power is selected and the amp couold have as much as +12Db dynamic headroom. To do this, The regulators will have to operate at at least 100Khz. Maybe higher. I need top keep ahead of the demand. I want the impact my subwoofers can deliver, but I do not want to destroy my tweeters. This is a tall task in the analog domain, but I think I can do it. Now to provide the dynamic headroom, heretofore unseen on Earth, I will have to build a time constant into it. I will have to tkae into account what my speakers can tak as wel as the ouput devices, actually moreso. It is time, I am getting to the pimt where I really want to do this. I know I can. I have a very different bias cicuit that is tolerant of supply rail changes, I did find a wat to compensate. I know how to use commutator switches and efven analog commutators, but thet is not the direction I want to take. I want to give my amp alot of headtroom so it never distorts. Impossible you say ? I have already designed it. Even some generic 829 can do it, the trick to keep the distortion down is to keep the gain stage out of the loop untill and unless it is needed. In other words the 829 just shuts up until it is time. It will add a bit of residual noise but that is all. But this is more advanced, I want the power supply to tradck the audio, and provide a PREDETERMINED amount of extra power for a very short time. Don't get me wrong, set this thing to max and you got over 500 watts a channel into four ohms. It would be 600 into my speakers but it will never see that level unless I go spend money on something else. My speakers are good enough that I wnt to keep them, and they are good enough to land me in jail. How much more power do I need ? But I would consider this a personal achievement, to build this. We are talking twelve really good bipolars, twelve high speed FETs and four coils alomg with a few high performance lower capacity filters. I mean I want to detect when a woofer cone goes out of the magnetic field via current monitoring. I have never seen an amp do this right. I mean in a real time way with no digital. And this is only for the bass. I got plans for the rest of the audio spectrum as well. JURB Aiwa did something similar to this years back, when they had the supply rails to the output stages switched 'on the fly' by FETs, according to the demands of power. There was then a very sophisticated protection circuit, which monitored many things, including output current. Arfa |
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) writes:
Not just any amp. I know how to do it and it is not only time to prove myself, my Sansui fried And it it's not a repair issue, the post doesn't belong here. This is sci.electronics.repair, not something else. Read Mark Zenier's guide to the sci.electronics.* hierarchy ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/m/mzenier/seguide9706.txt and post in the proper place instead of adding to the decline of this newsgroup. Michael |
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"Michael Black" wrote in message ... ) writes: Not just any amp. I know how to do it and it is not only time to prove myself, my Sansui fried And it it's not a repair issue, the post doesn't belong here. This is sci.electronics.repair, not something else. Read Mark Zenier's guide to the sci.electronics.* hierarchy ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/m/mzenier/seguide9706.txt and post in the proper place instead of adding to the decline of this newsgroup. Michael Apart from the obvious spam posts, which almost all groups suffer from, and is by no means the fault of the posters here, I see nothing that constitutes the spiralling decline that you are always bleating on about as occuring to this group. I have been active on it for some years now, and it seems to me that little has changed. Most questions still get answered in a polite and gentlemanly way. Most posters' problems are resolved by the regular posters, much as on other groups. I don't see anything in the guide that you have linked to, which seems to cover any kind of 'decline' that you perceive. You have a real bee in your bonnet about what you consider to be off-topic posting. As I have said to you before, sometimes people wander on here by accident with a question which, whilst being electronically related, is not necessarily to do with repair, but never-the-less is still an interesting discussion point. Sometimes, regular posters, who regularly help out with other people's problems, (such as ZZ who started this thread) have a general electronics issue that they wish to discuss with other engineers who are their 'net friends'. Should they go off to some other group where they don't know anyone, just to please you ? Sometimes, real engineers just want to 'chat amongst themselves' about things in which they have a mutual interest, which may not be directly repair related. Provided that this takes place generally within existing threads, I don't see that it impacts on the validity of the group as being one primarily for repair topics, at all. Just as a matter of interest, other than playing at usenet policeman, just what exactly do you consider your function on here to be ? I don't recall ever having seen you make a constructive repair reply to any poster. Do you even have an electronics repair background ? Your normal input is just to tell people that their post is unwelcome, and to clear off to a different group ... Arfa |
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Arfa Daily wrote:
"Michael Black" wrote in message ... ) writes: Not just any amp. I know how to do it and it is not only time to prove myself, my Sansui fried And it it's not a repair issue, the post doesn't belong here. This is sci.electronics.repair, not something else. Read Mark Zenier's guide to the sci.electronics.* hierarchy ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/m/mzenier/seguide9706.txt and post in the proper place instead of adding to the decline of this newsgroup. Michael snip Just as a matter of interest, other than playing at usenet policeman, just what exactly do you consider your function on here to be ? I don't recall ever having seen you make a constructive repair reply to any poster. Do you even have an electronics repair background ? Your normal input is just to tell people that their post is unwelcome, and to clear off to a different group ... Bingo! This is the heart of the matter. Nobody named 'Michael' has ever, TTBOMK, contributed anything of value to this forum. I myself have contributed damn little beyond anecdotal advice; but I have learned much from the masters here. That would not include Michael, whomever he is. I suggest to him, that he get a life and quit trying to run others'..... jak Arfa |
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On Oct 13, 7:42 pm, jakdedert wrote:
Arfa Daily wrote: "Michael Black" wrote in message ... ) writes: Not just any amp. I know how to do it and it is not only time to prove myself, my Sansui fried And it it's not a repair issue, the post doesn't belong here. This is sci.electronics.repair, not something else. Read Mark Zenier's guide to the sci.electronics.* hierarchy ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/m/mzenier/seguide9706.txt and post in the proper place instead of adding to the decline of this newsgroup. Michael snip Just as a matter of interest, other than playing at usenet policeman, just what exactly do you consider your function on here to be ? I don't recall ever having seen you make a constructive repair reply to any poster. Do you even have an electronics repair background ? Your normal input is just to tell people that their post is unwelcome, and to clear off to a different group ... Bingo! This is the heart of the matter. Nobody named 'Michael' has ever, TTBOMK, contributed anything of value to this forum. I myself have contributed damn little beyond anecdotal advice; but I have learned much from the masters here. That would not include Michael, whomever he is. I suggest to him, that he get a life and quit trying to run others'..... jak Arfa- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If you check Michael's profile, he has posted more than 14,000 times in the past couple of years to every single usenet group. The internet is his life, poor soul. The original Poster did post a strange sort of message, but that's still no excuse for the kind of reply he received from Michael. H. R;l (Bob) Hofmann |
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Michael Black wrote:
) writes: Not just any amp. I know how to do it and it is not only time to prove myself, my Sansui fried And it it's not a repair issue, the post doesn't belong here. This is sci.electronics.repair, not something else. Read Mark Zenier's guide to the sci.electronics.* hierarchy ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/m/mzenier/seguide9706.txt and post in the proper place instead of adding to the decline of this newsgroup. Michael I don't recall a time when you told somebody how to fix their tv or whatever every time I read a post from you you're bitching about somebody's else's posts because you're too much of a retard to actually input some useful information. Go start your own newsgroup you ****ing faggot. |
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"Why don't you learn how to use Google, Jerk."
You know what, I'll show you what kind of jerk I am. My IQ is around 200 what the **** is your's ? I can do the math to build an amp like this in my head, can you ? All you know is ****ing Google for this and Google for that. You know nothing, you depend on outside sources, while I find my own, and have all my life. Don't bring that ****ed up brain to a battle of wits with me. While I admit I had a buzz on when I posted this, the idea is clear. And it is really strange that using Google is what gets me here. What's more I doubt you comprehend search engines better than me, I had a four word string that came up with ONE result. The four words are available to those in my good favor. Get off your high horse and uncall me a jerk. Then we can talk. Just your one statement gave me your whole life. I know how you are and I know how to hurt you. Am I still a jerk or not ? I will get to the rest of the responses ASAP. For the rest of you, I really don't like to get like this with people, but this is usenet, and you never know where someone is. I can incite this guy to want to kill me, I can simply tell him where I live. I even have help to get rid of the body. I do not know how to use Google ? for what ? A circuit design ? Hell no. Mine is better, it autocompensates for varying supply voltages, and there is not a single capacitor in the circuit. So the supply voltage can change fast, and that is what I want. OK, I will start another reply here, this guy got his, now I go read the rest. And Lynn, you are obviously young, I have no doubt. Learn. You have not the power to embarrass me,I am secure in my achievements and my holdings. When you call off work and tell them straight out you took off because you did a bunch of coke the other night you might be able to tell me who has skills. I do not want anyoine else's design, I want MINE. I settle for no less. And I can Google with the best of them. Do not **** with me again Lynn. T Be Back Soon. |
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"jakdedert" wrote in message ... Arfa Daily wrote: "Michael Black" wrote in message ... ) writes: Not just any amp. I know how to do it and it is not only time to prove myself, my Sansui fried And it it's not a repair issue, the post doesn't belong here. This is sci.electronics.repair, not something else. Read Mark Zenier's guide to the sci.electronics.* hierarchy ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/m/mzenier/seguide9706.txt and post in the proper place instead of adding to the decline of this newsgroup. Michael snip Just as a matter of interest, other than playing at usenet policeman, just what exactly do you consider your function on here to be ? I don't recall ever having seen you make a constructive repair reply to any poster. Do you even have an electronics repair background ? Your normal input is just to tell people that their post is unwelcome, and to clear off to a different group ... Bingo! This is the heart of the matter. Nobody named 'Michael' has ever, TTBOMK, contributed anything of value to this forum. I myself have contributed damn little beyond anecdotal advice; but I have learned much from the masters here. That would not include Michael, whomever he is. I suggest to him, that he get a life and quit trying to run others'..... jak Arfa I didn't think that I had never contributed anything... I don't think I have contributed a lot since I'm not an electronics engineer, but every now and then I help answer easy questions that passer byes ask like whats wrong with my LCD monitor. :) Mike |
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Lookit, if we can't play nice, well I dunno.
I have met some good people here Bill Jr and Leonard come to mind. They both have helped me out, as have others. I try to help people when I can. If this bull**** does not stop all the good people will leave, leave the morons to their own means, which amounts to nothing. let me tell all the mother****ers around here about just who I am . I am also JURB6006. I have been published all over the web, and even though they caught it in this newsgroup doesn't mean credit goes to this newsgroup. I have been to pay sites at work and seen my own posts. As such I don't have to take **** from anyone. I decided to post a post about the amp I am going to build, you got a ****ing problem with it, answer one ****ing question; do you own usenet ? Do you even own sci.electronics.repair ? Can you even type that ? I just did. And amma ****in tellya one more thing, people who fix electronics know alot more about certain aspects of it. And that is why the post is here. If anyone doesn't like it I have a ****ing perfect solution for you, when your mouse pointer is over a thread you don't like, DO NOT CLICK IT ! It is treally that ****ing simple. My next post is going to deal with the specifics of the analog algorithms used in the power limiting system. The ****ing peanut gallery will shut up. Ideally I would like to get it to set itself, detect the peak in current that is always precedent to a woofer blowing. Anyone who wants to flame me can go to work for eight bucks an hour. This is higher reasoning and I put it here for good reason. My reason. AND this is not sci.geteveryassholesopiniononwhatbelongshere.lynns space. Boil it all down, anybody who says I shouldn't post this here can go **** themselves, I have every right to be here and I have helped many. If you think that bull**** and you think you are some kind of police or something I will give you my home address, and when you get here you will leave with a 327 Chey V8 camshaft up your ass, guaranteed, and if you think you might like that, we can use your throat instead. Just ask. Just ask. I won't bother to sign this, you knoiw who it is from. |
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Now that we got that out of the way......
I have been thinking about this algorithm, this is a bit new to me, but I do want to persue it. OK this is a bit of a complicated situation, but the engineering can be of great benefit. My speakers are Boston Acoustic A150s with the addition of four ohm subwoofers on each side. I have no desire to biamp them, and I wouldn't mind having a really great amp. I can't let those 65 volt rails near my speakers, but.... First of all I would like to have the dynamic range reproduced transparently until and unless the unit is cranked, and the does mean significant power of course, and it also means a smooth transisition from real to managed dynamic range when the power linits are exceeded. But do they have to be set or can they be detected ? I am sure it can be done with woofers, but what about the mids and tweets ? I like bass, but not to the exclusion of the rest of the sound. Those who know, in an amp you have the main feedback resistors, a divider network that sets the gain. at the point where the cap goes to ground, is my circuit. It is a short circuit until needed, then it can reduce the voltage gain of the whole stage. For one it will always be triggered by clipping, and that comes either at 200 something a channel or some lower limit set. Then it also monitors abrupt increases in current in the bass regions. Now if it is running in cranked mode, it also handles the dynamic range. The power regultors will allow short bursts, even of full power if the impedance of the speaker does not drop like rock. When that happens, it charges a capacitor, which limits further incursion into the power range that can kill the speakers. It doesn't lowr the average power setting that the user determined, just the allowed headroom. I think I need these regulators to operate at least at 150Khz or so, and designing that part is no joke.The thing is what to do with it. I mean how do you determine how much power is too much ? While I think dynamic midranges and tweeters can be detected the same way, and intend to implement multiband detection, I do not want multiband control. If any speaker is in danger I want the gain cut. All of it, I do not want to affect the frequency response. More later. JURB |
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Paul Feaker ) writes:
Michael Black wrote: ) writes: Not just any amp. I know how to do it and it is not only time to prove myself, my Sansui fried And it it's not a repair issue, the post doesn't belong here. This is sci.electronics.repair, not something else. Read Mark Zenier's guide to the sci.electronics.* hierarchy ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/m/mzenier/seguide9706.txt and post in the proper place instead of adding to the decline of this newsgroup. Michael I don't recall a time when you told somebody how to fix their tv or whatever every time I read a post from you you're bitching about somebody's else's posts because you're too much of a retard to actually input some useful information. Well bozo, I've been reading this newsgroup since 1995. I can remember when it was loaded with posts about repair. I read it to learn, and posted when I had something to contribute. I've had enough posts here, and hey, there's even a snippet of one of mine in the FAQ. But like so many other newsgroups, it's turning into a hangout for people who can't be bothered finding the right newsgroup. The "proof" of someone's value to a newsgroup is not how many posts they make. Because some people with too much time on their hands decide they'll hang out in a newsgroup, and post all kinds of off-topic junk. They rack up massive posting history in that newsgroup (and too often don't post anywhere else), but they often don't have that much to say on topic. The newsgroup becomes their hangout, and they don't care what the original intent of the newsgroup was. The lack of on topic messages makes people tune out, the "regulars" don't notice, because they are too busy hanging out. Indeed, those "regulars" are likely shorter time posters than the people who leave. And the fewer people who read a newsgroup means the fewer people who are around to reply when someone needs something. The pool of people who can answer is diminished. Just because a handful are oh so quick to respond to every post at any hour of the day does not mean they are the best people to answer all questions. Someone who traced the linear/power supply board in the Mac Plus years ago won't be of much value when someone asks about it if they are no longer reading the newsgroup. Some specific bit of knowledge may come up rarely, but the moment someone asks about that area, you'd better hope they are still reading the newsgroup. If the hotshot "regulars" so badly want to answer every single post, then let them find the proper newsgroup. When so much of the posting is off-topic, it's not really a surprise that I have nothing "worth" posting about. While ironically, there is nothing much to post about in the proper place either, because they aren't getting the on-topic posts either. I can remember when sci.electronics was split. "Too much traffic" some complaind about. It was rather brisk, but then I was using a 2400 baud modem and had no more than an hour a day access to the BBS where I was reading the newsgroups. But what we have now is lots of newsgroups, and half the time people don't even post in the right place. I don't read .design any more because it became a hangout, the swaggering of the "regulars" who took over the newsgroup, who "decided" it was acceptable to post all kinds of junk. The fact that there is a lot of political junk in there is both a cause and effect, because they decided it was acceptable and then hey, one thing people fight about is politics. But then all kinds of beginners post there because "this has the most traffic". Meanwhile, there is a perfectly good newsgroup for .basic posts, and it's pretty empty because nobody much is using it for its intended purpose. There's one about .components and it's underused, and so on. There area load and loads of newsgroups to discuss computers, and places to discuss vacuum tubes. We might as well all fold into One Big Newsgroup if people can't be bothered to use the proper ones. ANd hey, when idiots post in the wrong newsgroup, they hurt themselves. Any beginner who posts in .design is likely to get an answer that isn't useful to them. Someone who posts here about a computer problem is relying on someone incidentally having knowledge that can solve it. Find the right place, and you increase your chances of getting a useful answer. Most of the newsgroups I read, I've read daily for over a decade. I've added some, a handful I've tuned into for a relatively short time, but most of the newsgroups I read today I was reading a decade ago. But increasingly I am tuning out. Not because of spam, not even because of the too often massive cross-posting. I don't tune out because there's no traffic (some get a handful of posts every few months). No, I tune out when it becomes a hangout. People more interested in arguing among themselves than talking to each other. People bored with the purpose of the newsgroup, who still stick around instead of finding the proper place, so they post about the weather and politics and their computer problems and everything else. And in each of those newsgroups, I have a "big enough" posting history. I also have a long enough reading history. But hey, it's dwarfed by the people who rack up thousands of messages in a few years, but much of which isn't on topic. If I wanted to read general purpose newsgroups, I'd read the local newsgroup (which ironically I do, but it's not being used much). Most people don't realize how a newsgroup declines, because they aren't paying attention. And by the time it is noticeable by many, it's too late. Michael |
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On Oct 13, 8:16 am, (Michael Black) wrote:
) writes: Not just any amp. I know how to do it and it is not only time to prove myself, my Sansui fried And it it's not a repair issue, the post doesn't belong here. This is sci.electronics.repair, not something else. Read Mark Zenier's guide to the sci.electronics.* hierarchy ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/m/mzenier/seguide9706.txt and post in the proper place instead of adding to the decline of this newsgroup. Michael I got an even bette idea. How about you go **** yourself? the original poster has posted here several times and is well repected. What have you posted here besides your bitching? |
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"Michael Black" wrote in message ... Paul Feaker ) writes: Michael Black wrote: ) writes: Not just any amp. I know how to do it and it is not only time to prove myself, my Sansui fried And it it's not a repair issue, the post doesn't belong here. This is sci.electronics.repair, not something else. Read Mark Zenier's guide to the sci.electronics.* hierarchy ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/m/mzenier/seguide9706.txt and post in the proper place instead of adding to the decline of this newsgroup. Michael I don't recall a time when you told somebody how to fix their tv or whatever every time I read a post from you you're bitching about somebody's else's posts because you're too much of a retard to actually input some useful information. Well bozo, I've been reading this newsgroup since 1995. I can remember when it was loaded with posts about repair. I read it to learn, and posted when I had something to contribute. I've had enough posts here, and hey, there's even a snippet of one of mine in the FAQ. But like so many other newsgroups, it's turning into a hangout for people who can't be bothered finding the right newsgroup. The "proof" of someone's value to a newsgroup is not how many posts they make. Because some people with too much time on their hands decide they'll hang out in a newsgroup, and post all kinds of off-topic junk. They rack up massive posting history in that newsgroup (and too often don't post anywhere else), but they often don't have that much to say on topic. The newsgroup becomes their hangout, and they don't care what the original intent of the newsgroup was. The lack of on topic messages makes people tune out, the "regulars" don't notice, because they are too busy hanging out. Indeed, those "regulars" are likely shorter time posters than the people who leave. And the fewer people who read a newsgroup means the fewer people who are around to reply when someone needs something. The pool of people who can answer is diminished. Just because a handful are oh so quick to respond to every post at any hour of the day does not mean they are the best people to answer all questions. Someone who traced the linear/power supply board in the Mac Plus years ago won't be of much value when someone asks about it if they are no longer reading the newsgroup. Some specific bit of knowledge may come up rarely, but the moment someone asks about that area, you'd better hope they are still reading the newsgroup. If the hotshot "regulars" so badly want to answer every single post, then let them find the proper newsgroup. When so much of the posting is off-topic, it's not really a surprise that I have nothing "worth" posting about. While ironically, there is nothing much to post about in the proper place either, because they aren't getting the on-topic posts either. I can remember when sci.electronics was split. "Too much traffic" some complaind about. It was rather brisk, but then I was using a 2400 baud modem and had no more than an hour a day access to the BBS where I was reading the newsgroups. But what we have now is lots of newsgroups, and half the time people don't even post in the right place. I don't read .design any more because it became a hangout, the swaggering of the "regulars" who took over the newsgroup, who "decided" it was acceptable to post all kinds of junk. The fact that there is a lot of political junk in there is both a cause and effect, because they decided it was acceptable and then hey, one thing people fight about is politics. But then all kinds of beginners post there because "this has the most traffic". Meanwhile, there is a perfectly good newsgroup for .basic posts, and it's pretty empty because nobody much is using it for its intended purpose. There's one about .components and it's underused, and so on. There area load and loads of newsgroups to discuss computers, and places to discuss vacuum tubes. We might as well all fold into One Big Newsgroup if people can't be bothered to use the proper ones. ANd hey, when idiots post in the wrong newsgroup, they hurt themselves. Any beginner who posts in .design is likely to get an answer that isn't useful to them. Someone who posts here about a computer problem is relying on someone incidentally having knowledge that can solve it. Find the right place, and you increase your chances of getting a useful answer. Most of the newsgroups I read, I've read daily for over a decade. I've added some, a handful I've tuned into for a relatively short time, but most of the newsgroups I read today I was reading a decade ago. But increasingly I am tuning out. Not because of spam, not even because of the too often massive cross-posting. I don't tune out because there's no traffic (some get a handful of posts every few months). No, I tune out when it becomes a hangout. People more interested in arguing among themselves than talking to each other. People bored with the purpose of the newsgroup, who still stick around instead of finding the proper place, so they post about the weather and politics and their computer problems and everything else. And in each of those newsgroups, I have a "big enough" posting history. I also have a long enough reading history. But hey, it's dwarfed by the people who rack up thousands of messages in a few years, but much of which isn't on topic. If I wanted to read general purpose newsgroups, I'd read the local newsgroup (which ironically I do, but it's not being used much). Most people don't realize how a newsgroup declines, because they aren't paying attention. And by the time it is noticeable by many, it's too late. Michael You know, if you had a valid point with respect to this particular group, I might be persuaded to go along with you, but over the years that I have 'hung out' on here as you so quaintly put it, I have seen no signs of any kind of general decline. In fact, I would go as far as to say that this newsgroup is a shining example of one that continues to exist for its primary purpose of helping people with their repair problems, and is absolutely the right place for anyone with a repair-related question. The vast majority of posts to this group - and there are a good number most days - are absolutely 'on-topic' by your very limited criteria, and get dealt with by one or many of the very good people who 'hang out' on here, and have a huge raft of both specialist and general electronic knowledge gained by a lifetime either as a professional or serious hobbyist. I, and I'm sure many others who 'hang out' on here, resent your implication that we are internet saddos who live to jump on every post, and collect as many posting statistics as possible. I come on here, as part of my professional life, because I feel that 35 years of experience in the repair business, is worth offering to amateurs, hobbyists and less or differently experienced professional service engineers. I genuinely enjoy helping others, and I'm pretty sure that most of the other regulars on here, do as well. I also come here to continue to learn from others differently experienced from myself, as I'm certain many of the other regulars do. If you are active in a useful way on all of the newsgroups that you claim, and you honestly believe that this one is in terminal decline, then perhaps you should just leave, as you keep threatening to do. Perhaps you should also stop and consider the old phrase "If things don't change, they'll stay as they are ..." Nothing in this world stands still. Everything evolves, and not always for what we might all consider to be the better. Usenet is no exception. There is now a much wider spectrum of people who know that Usenet exists, and have found out how to get access to it. That in itself changes the nature of the beast. Accept it. Get over it. Move with the times. And if you can't, then really do consider departing to a group where there *are* problems, and your dissenting voice might be better heard and received .... Arfa |
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Maybe we are lucky there was an error when I tried to reply, if this
one goes through, suffice it to say, nobody would have liked it. I don't know who y'all are talking about leaving if they don't like it but if it is me for posting a design question, I just don't know what to tell you. What about the nike guy ? Tell you what. You got it. I think most of the good techs are on avsforum, which I believe costs money. I will pay. **** this place. Terminator |
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wrote in message ps.com... Tell you what. You got it. I think most of the good techs are on avsforum, which I believe costs money. I will pay. **** this place. Terminator That's right tough guy; Go Home and Cry. |
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On Oct 14, 11:27 am, "Paul Feaker" wrote:
wrote in message ps.com... Tell you what. You got it. I think most of the good techs are on avsforum, which I believe costs money. I will pay. **** this place. Terminator That's right tough guy; Go Home and Cry. Got that right. Go somewhere where theres a moderator so nobody can hurt your precious little feelings. Nobody wants you around here anyway you big baby. |
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"Lynn" wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 14, 11:27 am, "Paul Feaker" wrote: wrote in message ps.com... Tell you what. You got it. I think most of the good techs are on avsforum, which I believe costs money. I will pay. **** this place. Terminator That's right tough guy; Go Home and Cry. Got that right. Go somewhere where theres a moderator so nobody can hurt your precious little feelings. Nobody wants you around here anyway you big baby. I wonder what the moderators at that "form where all of the good techs are on" are going to if he posts a death threat like he did earlier in this thread? |
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On Oct 14, 12:00 pm, "Paul Feaker" wrote:
"Lynn" wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 14, 11:27 am, "Paul Feaker" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Tell you what. You got it. I think most of the good techs are on avsforum, which I believe costs money. I will pay. **** this place. Terminator That's right tough guy; Go Home and Cry. Got that right. Go somewhere where theres a moderator so nobody can hurt your precious little feelings. Nobody wants you around here anyway you big baby. I wonder what the moderators at that "form where all of the good techs are on" are going to if he posts a death threat like he did earlier in this thread?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I'm not worried one bit. I've seen this happen so many times over the years. He's just another one of those people that think they are so hard behind their anonymous computer screens and think they can kick anybody's ass but when they are actually about to get a smack across their face they threaten the other person with assult charges and lawsuits. He might be able to build amplifiers and write operating systems and find a cure for AIDS but street smarts? Not likely. |
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On Oct 14, 10:20 am, wrote:
Maybe we are lucky there was an error when I tried to reply, if this one goes through, suffice it to say, nobody would have liked it. I don't know who y'all are talking about leaving if they don't like it but if it is me for posting a design question, I just don't know what to tell you. What about the nike guy ? Tell you what. You got it. I think most of the good techs are on avsforum, which I believe costs money. I will pay. **** this place. Terminator "Y'all" I guess I can forget about my theory of you living in your mother's basement jerking off to fat bitches on Flickr. Apparently you live in a trailer and **** your fat cousin. |
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"Fleetie" wrote in message ... "Arfa Daily" wrote Apart from the obvious spam posts, which almost all groups suffer from, and [... etc.] Well said, Arfa! -- M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890 Manchester, U.K. http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=fleetie Hey Fleetie ! Long time no hear from. Good to see you on here. How's it going ? Arfa |
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wrote in message ps.com... Maybe we are lucky there was an error when I tried to reply, if this one goes through, suffice it to say, nobody would have liked it. I don't know who y'all are talking about leaving if they don't like it but if it is me for posting a design question, I just don't know what to tell you. What about the nike guy ? Tell you what. You got it. I think most of the good techs are on avsforum, which I believe costs money. I will pay. **** this place. Terminator ?????????????????????????????? Nobody was talking about you Arfa |
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"jakdedert" wrote in message ... wrote: Maybe we are lucky there was an error when I tried to reply, if this one goes through, suffice it to say, nobody would have liked it. I don't know who y'all are talking about leaving if they don't like it but if it is me for posting a design question, I just don't know what to tell you. What about the nike guy ? What about him? Do you really believe he's reading your rantings? A bot makes those posts, and any replies are only mental masturbation. Tell you what. You got it. I think most of the good techs are on avsforum, which I believe costs money. I will pay. **** this place. Since you're already gone, I guess it's too late to say, 'Mind the door doesn't hit you in the ass on the way out....' jak If I had to say some last words to the guy it would don't drop the soap in the shower. |
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Paul Feaker wrote:
"jakdedert" wrote in message ... wrote: Maybe we are lucky there was an error when I tried to reply, if this one goes through, suffice it to say, nobody would have liked it. I don't know who y'all are talking about leaving if they don't like it but if it is me for posting a design question, I just don't know what to tell you. What about the nike guy ? What about him? Do you really believe he's reading your rantings? A bot makes those posts, and any replies are only mental masturbation. Tell you what. You got it. I think most of the good techs are on avsforum, which I believe costs money. I will pay. **** this place. Since you're already gone, I guess it's too late to say, 'Mind the door doesn't hit you in the ass on the way out....' jak If I had to say some last words to the guy it would don't drop the soap in the shower. What is it about a single flamer-tard that brings 'em out of the woodwork? Go away. jak |
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On Oct 14, 8:04 pm, jakdedert wrote:
Paul Feakerwrote: "jakdedert" wrote in message . .. wrote: Maybe we are lucky there was an error when I tried to reply, if this one goes through, suffice it to say, nobody would have liked it. I don't know who y'all are talking about leaving if they don't like it but if it is me for posting a design question, I just don't know what to tell you. What about the nike guy ? What about him? Do you really believe he's reading your rantings? A bot makes those posts, and any replies are only mental masturbation. Tell you what. You got it. I think most of the good techs are on avsforum, which I believe costs money. I will pay. **** this place. Since you're already gone, I guess it's too late to say, 'Mind the door doesn't hit you in the ass on the way out....' jak If I had to say some last words to the guy it would don't drop the soap in the shower. What is it about a single flamer-tard that brings 'em out of the woodwork? Go away. jak- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Stick it you ****ing jerk. |
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Death threat ? Folks, we need to get friendly here, what are your drug
dealers' phone numbers, because you are getting some good ****. And this death threat, I give you my name and address, you come to kill me, that is when you get the body bag. Want the address ? I will give it out right here on usenet. All you boys and gurls who do not like me, go on with your life. I mean that. And remember, I make twice as much as you, and when you make twice as much, I will make twice as much as that. THAT IS BECAUSE I LEARN. I DO NOT OFFEND MY BENFACTORS, AND IF YOU'RE IQ IS OVER ****ING 30 YOU SHOULD SEE THAT I AM A BENEFICIAL INFLUENCE IN THIS GROUP, AND REALIZE THAT WE DID NOT DRAG YOU HERE KICKING AND SCREAMING IN CHAINS OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT. SO, YOU STUPID PEOPLE HERE, STOP BITING MY HAND OR I WON'T GIVE YOU ANY MORE FOOD. I normally do not show "attitude" like that, but it was time. And note, not one response dealing with the technical issues I raised WHICH DO BELONG HERE. I AM TRYING TO PREVENT FAILURE, WHO THE FUUCK BETTER TO ASK THAN THOSE WHO DEAL WITH THOSE FAILURES ? SCI.ELECTRONICS.REPAIR SCI.ELECTRONICS.REPAIR, get it ? I am trying NOT TO BLOW SPEAKERS. THAT IS A FAILURE WHICH WOULD REQUIRE REPAIR. Who the **** does not get it ? And why is all this **** down my ****ing throat when we got idiots selling ****ing tennis shoes in here and a $6 make you $25,000 and all this ****. Even if my thread is off topic, in light of all this spam, WHY THE **** CAN SOMEONE LIVE WHO IS SO STUPID TO **** WITH ME, WITH THIS OTHER **** GOING ON ? WHY, tell me why. If you are really stooopid enough to do damage, harm someone or even kill someone over a usenet post, I will freeley meet you somewhere. Bring a gun, you will need it. But I am not here for this ****. It seems stupid people are in vogue here. My buddies still come, but they just like me, are sick of the spamming. So you hecklers who want to run me off of her, not thayt you will ever succeed, are basically killing usenet. Go ahead. Do as thou wilt, oops, that continues "if it hurts no other". Oops. It is simple, the same ****ing asshole types who think they own usenet, think they own the roads as well. I am sure of it. They will stop and block as many lanes as they please, and then they will also risk ten or more lives for a few seconds of their own precious time. They think only of the consequences to thamself. That is a shame. I will decide later if I will ever pollute YOUR newsgroup with anything at all. I'll just go pull in the thousnd a day PART TIME. When you need help and it is not there, go flip burgers. **** it I ****ing told you. TERMINATOR. BTW, the death threat, come to kill me, I wioll meet you. Bring your own bag, and I want one with a handle, it'll be hundreds of feet to where you get buried. Yup, some death threat, come to kill me. BTW, don't come and ask to hear your favorite song on my stereo after this amp is built. Done deal. |
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On Oct 15, 12:41 am, wrote:
Death threat ? Folks, we need to get friendly here, what are your drug dealers' phone numbers, because you are getting some good ****. and you're smoking the best **** apparently. BTW, the death threat, come to kill me, I wioll meet you. Bring your own bag, and I want one with a handle, it'll be hundreds of feet to where you get buried. What the **** is that supposed to mean? oh, that's right you're a Usenet tough guy. Of course, as we have all seen before, you talk like your all hard but I bet the first person that actually clocks you in that big mouth of yours you'll run hundreds of feet to find the nearest authority figure to have that person arrested or threaten to sue. Yup, some death threat, come to kill me. Who's coming to kill you. We enjoy laughing at you. Who the **** is going to build an amp when they can just buy one? Of course! somebody who's a Genius. Since he's so smart he doesn't have to use his AOL (snickers) account to ask any questions on a forum which he then banishes himself from. |
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"Arfa Daily" wrote
Hey Fleetie ! Long time no hear from. Good to see you on here. How's it going ? Arfa Oh, you know. Been posting some rants every now and again; it's cathartic when I'm in a bad mood! Had the worst day at work for some time today. I FELT *ROUGH*. Mondays shouldn't be allowed. Yeah, can't complain. Well, I can but it never does any ****ing good! Hope you're ok. Martin -- M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890 Manchester, U.K. http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=fleetie |
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"Fleetie" wrote in message ... "Arfa Daily" wrote Hey Fleetie ! Long time no hear from. Good to see you on here. How's it going ? Arfa Oh, you know. Been posting some rants every now and again; it's cathartic when I'm in a bad mood! Had the worst day at work for some time today. I FELT *ROUGH*. Mondays shouldn't be allowed. Yeah, can't complain. Well, I can but it never does any ****ing good! Hope you're ok. Martin -- M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890 Manchester, U.K. http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=fleetie Yeah, all OK here. I haven't been over on uk.rec.audio for a while, which is why I guess I haven't caught up with you lately. I'll try and find the time soon to see what everyone's up to. I got a bit hacked off before with all the flame wars and pointless rants about £1000 cables and so on ... Arfa |
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"Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:41:00 -0700, ZZactly wrote: Death threat ? Folks, we need to get friendly here, what are your drug dealers' phone numbers, because you are getting some good ****. snip Stuff a ****ing sock in it already. Your a smart person, don't ruin it with these temper tantrums. Whats with all of these people now posting on here as soon as there is a chance to **** someone off. All Lynn ever posts is youtube crap an tells people to google. I've never seen Paul Freaker or John Todd before.. Its like trolls just smell this stuff from 100 miles away and come running in to **** everyone off. I agree with Meat Plow, You are a smart person and don't fall prey to these stupid trolls. |
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"Michael Kennedy" wrote in message . .. "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:41:00 -0700, ZZactly wrote: Death threat ? Folks, we need to get friendly here, what are your drug dealers' phone numbers, because you are getting some good ****. snip Stuff a ****ing sock in it already. Your a smart person, don't ruin it with these temper tantrums. Whats with all of these people now posting on here as soon as there is a chance to **** someone off. All Lynn ever posts is youtube crap an tells people to google. I've never seen Paul Freaker or John Todd before.. Its like trolls just smell this stuff from 100 miles away and come running in to **** everyone off. I agree with Meat Plow, You are a smart person and don't fall prey to these stupid trolls. Sorry John Todd.. I see you have a valid question.. My mistake.. I'm not here to **** anyone off. And Paul sorry if you are a normal as well.. I was just looking at names that happened to be in the arguement that I didn't know... However I do know lynn posts crap all the time. |
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On Oct 15, 7:56 pm, "Michael Kennedy"
wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:41:00 -0700, ZZactly wrote: Death threat ? Folks, we need to get friendly here, what are your drug dealers' phone numbers, because you are getting some good ****. snip Stuff a ****ing sock in it already. Your a smart person, don't ruin it with these temper tantrums. Whats with all of these people now posting on here as soon as there is a chance to **** someone off. All Lynn ever posts is youtube crap an tells people to google. I've never seen Paul Freaker or John Todd before.. Its like trolls just smell this stuff from 100 miles away and come running in to **** everyone off. I agree with Meat Plow, You are a smart person and don't fall prey to these stupid trolls. I saw John Todd sucking your mother's cock. |
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On Oct 15, 8:00 pm, "Michael Kennedy"
wrote: "Michael Kennedy" wrote in message . .. "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:41:00 -0700, ZZactly wrote: Death threat ? Folks, we need to get friendly here, what are your drug dealers' phone numbers, because you are getting some good ****. snip Stuff a ****ing sock in it already. Your a smart person, don't ruin it with these temper tantrums. Whats with all of these people now posting on here as soon as there is a chance to **** someone off. All Lynn ever posts is youtube crap an tells people to google. I've never seen Paul Freaker or John Todd before.. Its like trolls just smell this stuff from 100 miles away and come running in to **** everyone off. I agree with Meat Plow, You are a smart person and don't fall prey to these stupid trolls. Sorry John Todd.. I see you have a valid question.. My mistake.. I'm not here to **** anyone off. And Paul sorry if you are a normal as well.. I was just looking at names that happened to be in the arguement that I didn't know... However I do know lynn posts crap all the time.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - and you're posting crap right now. As far as telling people to Google, I see you telling people to Google all the time yourself. |
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"Arfa Daily" wrote
Yeah, all OK here. I haven't been over on uk.rec.audio for a while, which is why I guess I haven't caught up with you lately. I'll try and find the time soon to see what everyone's up to. I got a bit hacked off before with all the flame wars and pointless rants about £1000 cables and so on ... Arfa I'm afraid you'll find it's deteriorated even more. There are fewer serious contributors now, I think, and it's half been taken over by a load of nutters from aus.hi-fi, for reasons unclear to me. These are grown men in their fifties and sixties waging never-ending hate campaigns against each other with a level of puerility and malice that exceeds even what you used to find a few years ago - which was already pretty high. Phil Allison occasionally posts some good flames to ukra; personally I find them hilarious, but most don't share that opinion. I can't remember the last time I bothered posting there. Martin -- M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890 Manchester, U.K. http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=fleetie |
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