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iron vs toroid transformer
i have a astron 20amp supply
want to replace the iron transformer with a torroid (to reduce noise) the primary needs to be 120vac 60hz not yet sure what their exact 2ndary is but guess it's got to be around 13v and able to handle the 25amp dc 20amp cont is their any rules of thumb doing such a replacement or do i just match the original spec's to the new toroid? any good places for such a torrid? i couldn't find any in this range btw how do you mount one in a sheet metal enclosure? i presume the unit can't come close to the metal case so i guess a small raised plastic block and tie wraps? thanks |
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iron vs toroid transformer
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i have a astron 20amp supply want to replace the iron transformer with a torroid Why not an iron toroid? (to reduce noise) the primary needs to be 120vac 60hz not yet sure what their exact 2ndary is but guess it's got to be around 13v and able to handle the 25amp dc 20amp cont is their any rules of thumb doing such a replacement or do i just match the original spec's to the new toroid? any good places for such a torrid? i couldn't find any in this range btw how do you mount one in a sheet metal enclosure? i presume the unit can't come close to the metal case so i guess a small raised plastic block and tie wraps? thanks -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
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ml wrote: i have a astron 20amp supply want to replace the iron transformer with a torroid It's not an iron transformer, it's an EI laminated transformer ( presumably ) and it's made with steel laminations and the word you're looking for is toroid with one R btw. (to reduce noise) the primary needs to be 120vac 60hz not yet sure what their exact 2ndary is but guess it's got to be around 13v and able to handle the 25amp dc 20amp cont I suggest you measure it ! is the load 25 or 20 A DC ? is their any rules of thumb doing such a replacement or do i just match the original spec's to the new toroid? Basically yes - but do specify that's it has to supply a capacitor input filter ( I presume it does ) since the rms currrent is different to a resistive load. This affects the required VA rating. 25A DC load ~ 40-45A AC rating btw ( crest factor correction ). any good places for such a torrid? i couldn't find any in this range Loads, but where are you, There's no point in me guessing. btw how do you mount one in a sheet metal enclosure? i presume the unit can't come close to the metal case so i guess a small raised plastic block and tie wraps? There are several ways. I like the centre resin filled so you can bolt it down myself, otherwise a circular 'dish' is the normal way. Graham |
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Eeyore wrote in
: ml wrote: i have a astron 20amp supply want to replace the iron transformer with a torroid It's not an iron transformer, it's an EI laminated transformer ( presumably ) and it's made with steel laminations and the word you're looking for is toroid with one R btw. (to reduce noise) the primary needs to be 120vac 60hz not yet sure what their exact 2ndary is but guess it's got to be around 13v and able to handle the 25amp dc 20amp cont I suggest you measure it ! is the load 25 or 20 A DC ? is their any rules of thumb doing such a replacement or do i just match the original spec's to the new toroid? Basically yes - but do specify that's it has to supply a capacitor input filter ( I presume it does ) since the rms currrent is different to a resistive load. This affects the required VA rating. 25A DC load ~ 40-45A AC rating btw ( crest factor correction ). any good places for such a torrid? i couldn't find any in this range Loads, but where are you, There's no point in me guessing. btw how do you mount one in a sheet metal enclosure? i presume the unit can't come close to the metal case so i guess a small raised plastic block and tie wraps? There are several ways. I like the centre resin filled so you can bolt it down myself, otherwise a circular 'dish' is the normal way. Graham This is one of those posts that makes me want to reply like you usually do. (grahm) To respond to the main message, you obviously lack the ability to handle any conversion what so ever. This is demonstrated by your lack of ability to find standard output toroids and your lack of knowledge of basic terminology. Though of course it is obvious you once were a wiz at electronics long in the past, but it has been a while since you practiced the arcane arts.... ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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tnx eeyoreiron vs toroid transformer
thanks very much for the tips appreciate your advice i am in nyc btw again thanks In article , Eeyore wrote: ml wrote: i have a astron 20amp supply want to replace the iron transformer with a torroid It's not an iron transformer, it's an EI laminated transformer ( presumably ) and it's made with steel laminations and the word you're looking for is toroid with one R btw. (to reduce noise) the primary needs to be 120vac 60hz not yet sure what their exact 2ndary is but guess it's got to be around 13v and able to handle the 25amp dc 20amp cont I suggest you measure it ! is the load 25 or 20 A DC ? is their any rules of thumb doing such a replacement or do i just match the original spec's to the new toroid? Basically yes - but do specify that's it has to supply a capacitor input filter ( I presume it does ) since the rms currrent is different to a resistive load. This affects the required VA rating. 25A DC load ~ 40-45A AC rating btw ( crest factor correction ). any good places for such a torrid? i couldn't find any in this range Loads, but where are you, There's no point in me guessing. btw how do you mount one in a sheet metal enclosure? i presume the unit can't come close to the metal case so i guess a small raised plastic block and tie wraps? There are several ways. I like the centre resin filled so you can bolt it down myself, otherwise a circular 'dish' is the normal way. Graham |
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