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"Jungle" IC
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Anyone know why it's called "jungle" ? I always thought it was in reference to the complicated waveform that makes up the video signal. But I can't remember if I saw that spelled out years ago and have forgotten where, or if it's just an assumption. Michael |
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"Michael Black" wrote in message ... I always thought it was in reference to the complicated waveform that makes up the video signal. But I can't remember if I saw that spelled out years ago and have forgotten where, or if it's just an assumption. ISTR the Cyclops circuit used in UK TVs - don't know if that one made it off shore. |
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Homer J Simpson wrote: "Michael Black" wrote in message ... I always thought it was in reference to the complicated waveform that makes up the video signal. But I can't remember if I saw that spelled out years ago and have forgotten where, or if it's just an assumption. ISTR the Cyclops circuit used in UK TVs - don't know if that one made it off shore. After reading the posts in this thread, I now have a small idea of how complicated (!) the jungle IC is in my RCA CTC 185 19" TV. I would guess most of the small signal circuits are on that chip (my gosh, it seems like most of the TV, outside of the deflection circuits, is on there!), not to mention auto color control and so on. Which reminds me. I've been wondering for some time how the older (1990s) CRT RCAs (19" CTC185A7, model F19261 in particular) handle the auto color control functions. Posted a question in reference to this on AudioKarma.org (in one of their color-TV forums) some time ago and got no responses, so I'm posing the same question here. Are the control circuits on the jungle IC or are they on a separate black box chip, and do they operate anything like the older RCA ColorTrak system? I think my set must have some kind of color tracking system, as the color is very stable--haven't had to adjust the onscreen controls much at all since I installed the set seven years ago; I just set the auto-color menu option to "on" and left it there. If it is not strictly ColorTrak or a variation thereof, what type of auto color system did this set use? I know the later RCA TruFlat TVs have what is called "Advanced Color View"; is this also a variation on the ColorTrak system? Whatever it is, it must work very well, because as I said, the color on my RCA CTC185 TV is very stable with the auto-color on; it's the most stable of any color TV I've ever owned, and I've had several in my life, including two 13" Zenith color portables that weren't half bad in that department. I realize the part of my post dealing with ColorTrak, etc. is off topic in this thread, but I thought it might fit in, considering we're talking about the jungle IC in modern sets and its many functions. I wouldn't be surprised if a very sophisticated auto-color system is on that chip somewhere. Kind regards, Jeff Strieble, WB8NHV (email addy not shown to deter spammers) Fairport Harbor, Ohio USA |
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"Homer J Simpson" wrote in message news:KsA3h.56292$H7.14936@edtnps82... "Michael Black" wrote in message ... I always thought it was in reference to the complicated waveform that makes up the video signal. But I can't remember if I saw that spelled out years ago and have forgotten where, or if it's just an assumption. ISTR the Cyclops circuit used in UK TVs - don't know if that one made it off shore. Hey Homey - hows it goin' ? That was a Thorn special and it was Syclops with an "S". It was an acronym for SY-nchronous C-hopper and L-ine O-utput S-tage. As I recall, it was used in the 8500 chassis - maybe the 8000 as well - and was a bloody nightmare to work on ! Happy days ... Arfa |
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"Arfa Daily" wrote in message ... Hey Homey - hows it goin' ? That was a Thorn special and it was Syclops with an "S". It was an acronym for SY-nchronous C-hopper and L-ine O-utput S-tage. As I recall, it was used in the 8500 chassis - maybe the 8000 as well - and was a bloody nightmare to work on ! Happy days ... I never could see how to repair such a beast unless you had a power supply to run the set while you fixed it. |
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In message KsA3h.56292$H7.14936@edtnps82, Homer J Simpson
writes "Michael Black" wrote in message ... I always thought it was in reference to the complicated waveform that makes up the video signal. But I can't remember if I saw that spelled out years ago and have forgotten where, or if it's just an assumption. ISTR the Cyclops circuit used in UK TVs - don't know if that one made it off shore. Euuughh, thank you very much for reminding me of that one.... BTW, wasn't it Syclops? Nasty Thorn sh*t. -- Clint Sharp |
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In message LiK3h.57825$H7.18398@edtnps82, Homer J Simpson
writes Hey Homey - hows it goin' ? That was a Thorn special and it was Syclops with an "S". It was an acronym for SY-nchronous C-hopper and L-ine O-utput S-tage. As I recall, it was used in the 8500 chassis - maybe the 8000 as well - and was a bloody nightmare to work on ! Happy days ... I never could see how to repair such a beast unless you had a power supply to run the set while you fixed it. Umm, Variac, several different light bulbs for current limiting and a large bag of thyristors. -- Clint Sharp |
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