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I have Sony KV27S15 TV which has worked fine since 1995. It has a
soft-start after power up, which delayed about 5-8 seconds before lighting up the CRT. About 6-8 months ago, the delay began to gradually get longer and longer. The delay is now over 10 minutes from when the TV is first turned on before a picture comes on. Audio comes on instantly. Even after the TV has been on for hours, changing channels will cause a blank screen for anywhere from 15-60 seconds, it varies. Does anyone have a clue what circuit(s) I should be looking at to find the problem? I do have the schematics. Thanks Sean |
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![]() "Sean Collins" wrote in message ... I have Sony KV27S15 TV which has worked fine since 1995. It has a soft-start after power up, which delayed about 5-8 seconds before lighting up the CRT. About 6-8 months ago, the delay began to gradually get longer and longer. The delay is now over 10 minutes from when the TV is first turned on before a picture comes on. Audio comes on instantly. Even after the TV has been on for hours, changing channels will cause a blank screen for anywhere from 15-60 seconds, it varies. Does anyone have a clue what circuit(s) I should be looking at to find the problem? I do have the schematics. Thanks Sean Usually this starts to happen when the CRT is getting weak. You may be able to squeeze a few more months/years out of it by cranking up the G2 control a tad. |
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Sean Collins:
The schematics you have are not going to help you. More that likely the CRT is showing it age and lower emissions causing the internal circuitry to "wait" until the emissions are high enough before it unblanks the video. Start looking for a new television.... not worth installing a new CRT. electricitym |
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Troubleshoot the AKB circuit starting at the crt. Odds are very high
that following Sony's procedure for the AKB will reveal a weak and out of balance gun in the picture tube. The proper fix is a new picture tube, simply not worth it. |
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![]() ha scritto nel messaggio oups.com... Sean Collins: The schematics you have are not going to help you. More that likely the CRT is showing it age and lower emissions causing the internal circuitry to "wait" until the emissions are high enough before it unblanks the video. Start looking for a new television.... not worth installing a new CRT. He can try to crank up the G2 pot, and power the filiment from ca. 8 or 9V ! I. |
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![]() "James Sweet" wrote in message news:rKFxe.820$3Y3.717@trnddc09... Usually this starts to happen when the CRT is getting weak. You may be able to squeeze a few more months/years out of it by cranking up the G2 control a tad. We had a nasty trick of connecting a wire to the HV lead and flashing it on a grid to 'boost' the tube a bit. Kind of a cheap version of what some testers would do. Was worth a try if the tube was nearly gone. Those were the days, eh? Who would do that stuff now? N |
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On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 15:55:56 -0700, Sean Collins
wrote: I have Sony KV27S15 TV which has worked fine since 1995. It has a soft-start after power up, which delayed about 5-8 seconds before lighting up the CRT. About 6-8 months ago, the delay began to gradually get longer and longer. The delay is now over 10 minutes from when the TV is first turned on before a picture comes on. Audio comes on instantly. Even after the TV has been on for hours, changing channels will cause a blank screen for anywhere from 15-60 seconds, it varies. Does anyone have a clue what circuit(s) I should be looking at to find the problem? I do have the schematics. Thanks Sean The CRT is failing. Sometimes getting a CRT restoration done will get you another 6-8 months out of the set...sometimes a technician can do a setup adjustment and get the picture back for awhile, but the CRT is failing, I'm virtually certain. Tom |
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On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 06:25:55 GMT, "NSM" wrote:
"James Sweet" wrote in message news:rKFxe.820$3Y3.717@trnddc09... Usually this starts to happen when the CRT is getting weak. You may be able to squeeze a few more months/years out of it by cranking up the G2 control a tad. We had a nasty trick of connecting a wire to the HV lead and flashing it on a grid to 'boost' the tube a bit. Kind of a cheap version of what some testers would do. Was worth a try if the tube was nearly gone. Those were the days, eh? Who would do that stuff now? N I had a couple of tricks to use the HV (through an HV probe) to blow away focus and G2 shorts. One was quite reliable, and the other was iffy, but I forget which...I think the G2 one was the iffy one, though. Tom |
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Gentlemen:
Thanks very much for your advice. It would seem I'll be shopping for a new TV. Perhaps time for a nice LCD panel. However, I'm an obstinate type, so I will try your suggestions to see what comes of it. This leads me wonder to about quality and longevity of more recent electronics appliances. In the past year I have experienced 3 failures of televisions and computer monitors, all of the most recent vintage. Yet older TVs & monitors are still working. 1995 Sony KV27S15: CRT dying of old age ? 1999 Sony Trinitron 21" CRT monitor: horizontal deflection failed 2000 NEC/Mitsubishi 19" Diamondtron monitor: vertical deflection failed Yet I have: 1985 NEC 15" TV: still going strong 1989 NEC 20" TV: still going strong 1989 NEC FG 15" monitor: still going strong 1989 RasterOps 20" Trinitron: Still working good, but dimmer than new 1990 HP 17" Trinitron monitor: still going strong 1991 Magnavox 15" TV: still going strong Was there a big shift in quality in the early '90s, or are larger displays more prone to failures? Thanks again Sean |
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On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 08:04:31 -0700, Sean Collins
wrote: Gentlemen: Thanks very much for your advice. It would seem I'll be shopping for a new TV. Perhaps time for a nice LCD panel. However, I'm an obstinate type, so I will try your suggestions to see what comes of it. This leads me wonder to about quality and longevity of more recent electronics appliances. In the past year I have experienced 3 failures of televisions and computer monitors, all of the most recent vintage. Yet older TVs & monitors are still working. 1995 Sony KV27S15: CRT dying of old age ? 1999 Sony Trinitron 21" CRT monitor: horizontal deflection failed 2000 NEC/Mitsubishi 19" Diamondtron monitor: vertical deflection failed I think many people at least theorize that it's the battle to satisfy consumer desires for low prices. It started before 1995, though, and that Sony CRT thing is very common, and it seems to always be the green cathode that is the problem. Tom Yet I have: 1985 NEC 15" TV: still going strong 1989 NEC 20" TV: still going strong 1989 NEC FG 15" monitor: still going strong 1989 RasterOps 20" Trinitron: Still working good, but dimmer than new 1990 HP 17" Trinitron monitor: still going strong 1991 Magnavox 15" TV: still going strong Was there a big shift in quality in the early '90s, or are larger displays more prone to failures? Thanks again Sean |
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![]() "Sean Collins" wrote in message ... Was there a big shift in quality in the early '90s, or are larger displays more prone to failures? Wal-Mart. When you have low, low prices you usually have low, low quality (and wages). N |
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![]() "Tom MacIntyre" ha scritto nel messaggio ... The CRT is failing. Sometimes getting a CRT restoration done will get you another 6-8 months out of the set...sometimes a technician can do a setup adjustment and get the picture back for awhile, but the CRT is failing, I'm virtually certain. Why discourage he ? ;-) If you power the filiment from 12V and restaurate the CRT it can last for about two years... I. |
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Problem is fixed for now!
A slight tweak of the G2 pot, and it's back to 8-9 seconds after power on, and channel changes are almost instantaneous again. It's bought me enough time to shop frugally for a new one. Thanks a million! Sean |
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On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 06:33:20 GMT, "Inty"
wrote: "Tom MacIntyre" ha scritto nel messaggio .. . The CRT is failing. Sometimes getting a CRT restoration done will get you another 6-8 months out of the set...sometimes a technician can do a setup adjustment and get the picture back for awhile, but the CRT is failing, I'm virtually certain. Why discourage he ? ;-) If you power the filiment from 12V and restaurate the CRT it can last for about two years... I. Simply telling the truth, based on my experience. The restores I've done on these CRT's generally bought about 6 months give or take, and you'd get away with it 3 times at the most. Any hike in filament voltage, while possibly lengthening the useful life of the CRT, is shortening the actual life of the filament coating. My experience on sets that I have performed these procedures on. Nowhere did I say to not bother trying to keep it going...if it was mine, I would give it some time and effort. Tom |
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