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Nevada ^----- where are people getting that what I'd call "harsh-A" sound? "Nevada" would certainly, I'd think, have Spanish naming origin, wouldn't you think? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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"Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Pronunciation Puzzle... Nevada ^----- where are people getting that what I'd call "harsh-A" sound? "Nevada" would certainly, I'd think, have Spanish naming origin, wouldn't you think? ...Jim Thompson Wiktionary says Nevada comes from Spanish, "snow-covered," so I guess you're right. But there are places a-plenty that we Amurrikins don't pronounce correctly. For example, Ausable Chasm in New York. People pronounce it "ossa-bull" but it comes from the French Au Sable, which means sandy and is pronounced Oh-Sobbla (sort of). |
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On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 22:38:42 -0400, Michael Robinson wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote in Pronunciation Puzzle... Nevada ^----- where are people getting that what I'd call "harsh-A" sound? "Nevada" would certainly, I'd think, have Spanish naming origin, wouldn't you think? Wiktionary says Nevada comes from Spanish, "snow-covered," so I guess you're right. But there are places a-plenty that we Amurrikins don't pronounce correctly. For example, Ausable Chasm in New York. People pronounce it "ossa-bull" but it comes from the French Au Sable, which means sandy and is pronounced Oh-Sobbla (sort of). http://inogolo.com/pronunciation/Nevada ;-) BTW, If you're ever in the area of Pascagoula, MS, and ask for directions to "pass-CAG-yu-la" you stand a good chance of getting beat up. ;-) (It's pass-kuh-GOO-la.) Cheers! Rich |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
Pronunciation Puzzle... Nevada ^----- where are people getting that what I'd call "harsh-A" sound? "Nevada" would certainly, I'd think, have Spanish naming origin, wouldn't you think? ...Jim Thompson Skew it: "never-Da". Worse one: Uranus - either pronunciation sounds so.. |
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Michael Robinson wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Pronunciation Puzzle... Nevada ^----- where are people getting that what I'd call "harsh-A" sound? "Nevada" would certainly, I'd think, have Spanish naming origin, wouldn't you think? ...Jim Thompson Wiktionary says Nevada comes from Spanish, "snow-covered," so I guess you're right. But there are places a-plenty that we Amurrikins don't pronounce correctly. For example, Ausable Chasm in New York. People pronounce it "ossa-bull" but it comes from the French Au Sable, which means sandy and is pronounced Oh-Sobbla (sort of). ....how about "our sable"? |
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On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 02:39:57 -0500, flipper wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 22:38:42 -0400, "Michael Robinson" wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Pronunciation Puzzle... Nevada ^----- where are people getting that what I'd call "harsh-A" sound? "Nevada" would certainly, I'd think, have Spanish naming origin, wouldn't you think? ...Jim Thompson Wiktionary says Nevada comes from Spanish, "snow-covered," so I guess you're right. But there are places a-plenty that we Amurrikins don't pronounce correctly. For example, Ausable Chasm in New York. People pronounce it "ossa-bull" but it comes from the French Au Sable, which means sandy and is pronounced Oh-Sobbla (sort of). My mother said one of the funniest things she ever heard was a northeastern news broadcaster trying to pronounce Nacogdoches. --- That's right up there with Mexia. --- JF |
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On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 02:39:57 -0500, flipper wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 22:38:42 -0400, "Michael Robinson" wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Pronunciation Puzzle... Nevada ^----- where are people getting that what I'd call "harsh-A" sound? "Nevada" would certainly, I'd think, have Spanish naming origin, wouldn't you think? ...Jim Thompson Wiktionary says Nevada comes from Spanish, "snow-covered," so I guess you're right. But there are places a-plenty that we Amurrikins don't pronounce correctly. For example, Ausable Chasm in New York. People pronounce it "ossa-bull" but it comes from the French Au Sable, which means sandy and is pronounced Oh-Sobbla (sort of). My mother said one of the funniest things she ever heard was a northeastern news broadcaster trying to pronounce Nacogdoches. Can any of you pronounce "Canyon de Chelly", a prominent location in Arizona? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I can see Election Results and Dismembered Democrats :-) |
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On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 23:56:39 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote: Pronunciation Puzzle... Nevada ^----- where are people getting that what I'd call "harsh-A" sound? "Nevada" would certainly, I'd think, have Spanish naming origin, wouldn't you think? Skew it: "never-Da". Worse one: Uranus - either pronunciation sounds so.. Imagine changing the name of a whole freakin' planet because of the fear that a few pubescent boys will giggle. And, as you note, "Urine-Us" isn't that much better. Cheers! Rich |
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On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 15:23:50 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
... You should hear the touristas mangle 'Kissimmee'. Yabbut, at least that one's fun to misprouounce! ;-) Cheers! Rich |
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flipper wrote: On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 08:45:44 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 02:39:57 -0500, flipper wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 22:38:42 -0400, "Michael Robinson" wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Pronunciation Puzzle... Nevada ^----- where are people getting that what I'd call "harsh-A" sound? "Nevada" would certainly, I'd think, have Spanish naming origin, wouldn't you think? ...Jim Thompson Wiktionary says Nevada comes from Spanish, "snow-covered," so I guess you're right. But there are places a-plenty that we Amurrikins don't pronounce correctly. For example, Ausable Chasm in New York. People pronounce it "ossa-bull" but it comes from the French Au Sable, which means sandy and is pronounced Oh-Sobbla (sort of). My mother said one of the funniest things she ever heard was a northeastern news broadcaster trying to pronounce Nacogdoches. Can any of you pronounce "Canyon de Chelly", a prominent location in Arizona? You mean the Navajo pronunciation, the Spanish 'translation', or good ole American? The problem with pronunciations is "The King's English" itself is a mongrel language that's compounded 10 fold in American English by influences from a multitude of Native American tribes and "melting pot" immigration distorting both sound and spelling. Take a Navajo word translated by the Spanish who, for some unknown reason, decided to spell it 'frenchy', and you're bound to have some confusion since not a single one of those origins conforms to English which, as mentioned, is already riddled with 'exceptions to the rules'. You should hear the touristas mangle 'Kissimmee'. -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. |
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On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 13:26:11 -0700, Fred Abse
wrote: On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 08:45:44 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 02:39:57 -0500, flipper wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 22:38:42 -0400, "Michael Robinson" wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Pronunciation Puzzle... Nevada ^----- where are people getting that what I'd call "harsh-A" sound? "Nevada" would certainly, I'd think, have Spanish naming origin, wouldn't you think? ...Jim Thompson Wiktionary says Nevada comes from Spanish, "snow-covered," so I guess you're right. But there are places a-plenty that we Amurrikins don't pronounce correctly. For example, Ausable Chasm in New York. People pronounce it "ossa-bull" but it comes from the French Au Sable, which means sandy and is pronounced Oh-Sobbla (sort of). My mother said one of the funniest things she ever heard was a northeastern news broadcaster trying to pronounce Nacogdoches. Can any of you pronounce "Canyon de Chelly", a prominent location in Arizona? How 'bout "Coeur d'Alene" Thanks pure French, so no problem. Canyon de Chelly == "Canyon duh Shay" ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I can see Election Results and Dismembered Democrats :-) |
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Rich Grise wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 23:56:39 -0800, Robert Baer wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: Pronunciation Puzzle... Nevada ^----- where are people getting that what I'd call "harsh-A" sound? "Nevada" would certainly, I'd think, have Spanish naming origin, wouldn't you think? Skew it: "never-Da". Worse one: Uranus - either pronunciation sounds so.. Imagine changing the name of a whole freakin' planet because of the fear that a few pubescent boys will giggle. And, as you note, "Urine-Us" isn't that much better. Cheers! Rich That is what i said.. |
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On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 09:45:41 -0700, Fred Abse
wrote: On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 14:47:41 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 13:26:11 -0700, Fred Abse wrote: How 'bout "Coeur d'Alene" Thanks pure French, so no problem. I've heard "Curdylene". I've heard "Boise" pronounced the French way :-) Well, it is Idaho ;-) My father declared one time (in Idaho, ~1956), "I knew God made a lot of stupid people, but I didn't know he put them all in one place" ;-) (They were paving a two-lane road, both lanes at the same time, so highway was shut down completely for many hours.) Canyon de Chelly == "Canyon duh Shay" Hauppauge, and Poughkeepsie cause problems for some. One of my favorites is "Hamtramck". Another fun one is listening to "newscasters" trying to pronounce "Blagojevich". I'm somewhat into languages and pronunciations, so I bug my wife by proclaiming, "It's pronounced just like it's spelled" :-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I can see Election Results and Dismembered Democrats :-) |
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On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 09:45:41 -0700, Fred Abse wrote:
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 14:47:41 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 13:26:11 -0700, Fred Abse How 'bout "Coeur d'Alene" Thanks pure French, so no problem. I've heard "Curdylene". I've heard "Boise" pronounced the French way :-) Well, it is Idaho ;-) Canyon de Chelly == "Canyon duh Shay" Hauppauge, and Poughkeepsie cause problems for some. Heck, some non-Minnesotans can't even get "Edina" right. It's ee-DYNE-ah. ;-) (or ee-DYE-nah) Chaska and Chanhassen are easy, but try Shakopee (SHOCK-uh-pee) or Wayzata (wye-ZETT-uh). Cheers! Rich |
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On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 10:04:02 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
Another fun one is listening to "newscasters" trying to pronounce "Blagojevich". I'm somewhat into languages and pronunciations, so I bug my wife by proclaiming, "It's pronounced just like it's spelled" :-) So's "Wojciehowicz". ;-) (see "Barney Miller".) Cheers! Rich |
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On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 10:50:19 -0700, Rich Grise
wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 23:56:39 -0800, Robert Baer wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: Pronunciation Puzzle... Nevada ^----- where are people getting that what I'd call "harsh-A" sound? "Nevada" would certainly, I'd think, have Spanish naming origin, wouldn't you think? Skew it: "never-Da". Worse one: Uranus - either pronunciation sounds so.. Imagine changing the name of a whole freakin' planet because of the fear that a few pubescent boys will giggle. --- It's much more than that, it's that our ancestors were confused as to what was right and what was wrong, having broken away from both England and Rome and, being in a denialist state, created the [anti] pleasure police in order to atone for their feelings of guilt for having broken away from what was the home they could never return to. They then gave them the power to tell us what was right and what was wrong, and here we are. --- JF |
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flipper wrote:
On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 18:41:01 -0500, John Fields wrote: On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 10:50:19 -0700, Rich Grise wrote: On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 23:56:39 -0800, Robert Baer wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: Pronunciation Puzzle... Nevada ^----- where are people getting that what I'd call "harsh-A" sound? "Nevada" would certainly, I'd think, have Spanish naming origin, wouldn't you think? Skew it: "never-Da". Worse one: Uranus - either pronunciation sounds so.. Imagine changing the name of a whole freakin' planet because of the fear that a few pubescent boys will giggle. --- It's much more than that, it's that our ancestors were confused as to what was right and what was wrong, having broken away from both England and Rome and, being in a denialist state, created the [anti] pleasure police in order to atone for their feelings of guilt for having broken away from what was the home they could never return to. They then gave them the power to tell us what was right and what was wrong, and here we are. Wow. Lord only knows how you came up with that fantasy. You mean we're _not_ here? :-) Ed --- JF |
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