On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:38:45 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

Excellent proper use of a ferrite bead on one leg of each device.

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:00:08 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:38:45 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

Excellent proper use of a ferrite bead on one leg of each device.

Ferrite beads? Where?

How about this...

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Amp.jpg

John

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:17:58 -0700, John Larkin
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:00:08 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:38:45 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

Excellent proper use of a ferrite bead on one leg of each device.

Ferrite beads? Where?

I guess that you are blind as a bat. One leg of each device has a bead
clamp on it.

You cannot see them? Look closer.

How about this...

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Amp.jpg

Too far away from the devices.

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:52:54 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:17:58 -0700, John Larkin
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:00:08 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:38:45 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

Excellent proper use of a ferrite bead on one leg of each device.

Ferrite beads? Where?

I guess that you are blind as a bat. One leg of each device has a bead
clamp on it.

That sure looks like a big ring lug to me. If a ferrite made sense
anywhere, it would be on the gate, and the gates obviously don't have
beads.

I guess you are AlwaysWrong.


You cannot see them? Look closer.

How about this...

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Amp.jpg

Too far away from the devices.

What's too far? I didn't use ferrites here, I used gate resistors.

John

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:17:58 -0700, John Larkin
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:00:08 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:38:45 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

Excellent proper use of a ferrite bead on one leg of each device.

Ferrite beads? Where?

How about this...

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Amp.jpg

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Not bad...

JF

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:58:22 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:17:58 -0700, John Larkin
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:00:08 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:38:45 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

Excellent proper use of a ferrite bead on one leg of each device.

Ferrite beads? Where?

How about this...

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Amp.jpg

---
Not bad...

JF

We exploded a coffee mug full of fets before we found some that
survived. The power rails on this amp can go as high as +-200, and
peak output current is 120 amps. I don't really like doing big, heavy,
explodey stuff like this. The power transformer weighs more than my
smallest employee.

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/PP5.JPG

John

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:28:20 -0700, John Larkin
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:58:22 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:17:58 -0700, John Larkin
wrote:


How about this...

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Amp.jpg

---
Not bad...

JF

We exploded a coffee mug full of fets before we found some that
survived.

---
Hmm...

From:



You wrote:

"I *calculate* in advance if things will work, and
almost exactly how they will work."

Funny, I would have thought that "almost exactly" would have been a lot
fewer than a coffee mug full...

JF

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:10:48 -0700, Fred Abse
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:17:58 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:00:08 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:38:45 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

Excellent proper use of a ferrite bead on one leg of each device.

Ferrite beads? Where?

How about this...

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Amp.jpg


Your FTP server wouldn't let me have it using wget (it used to). I had to
fire the damn browser up.


WTF? Has everyone turned into Luddite dip****s?

Let's see... wget requires that you type it all in by hand (or mark and
copy and paste. Browser = double click on link.

Which is easier, command line boy?

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:06:13 -0700, Fred Abse
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:29:33 -0700, Archimedes' Lever wrote:

WTF? Has everyone turned into Luddite dip****s?

Good grief! He's learned another insult!


Good grief? That is old, asshole. So was my "new insult" it has been
used for years here and fro decades out in the real world. That must be
the reason for your lack of knowledge about it.

Good grief? Gimmie a break, you big baby-fied pussy.

On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:34:49 -0700, Fred Abse
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:17:28 -0700, Archimedes' Lever wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:06:13 -0700, Fred Abse
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:29:33 -0700, Archimedes' Lever wrote:

WTF? Has everyone turned into Luddite dip****s?

Good grief! He's learned another insult!


Good grief? That is old, asshole. So was my "new insult" it has been
used for years here and fro decades out in the real world. That must be
the reason for your lack of knowledge about it.

Good grief? Gimmie a break, you big baby-fied pussy.

Learn to distinguish between "another", and "new"

Except that you missed that one too. I have used it for years, so it
isn't "another" for me either. Just because I quoted your dumb remark
incorrectly does not change the meaning of the retort.

English Comprehension - ungraded.

You are the retard here, boy.

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:06:13 -0700, Fred Abse
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:29:33 -0700, Archimedes' Lever wrote:

WTF? Has everyone turned into Luddite dip****s?

Good grief! He's learned another insult!

We can start calling him AlwaysLame.

John

John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:06:13 -0700, Fred Abse
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:29:33 -0700, Archimedes' Lever wrote:

WTF? Has everyone turned into Luddite dip****s?

Good grief! He's learned another insult!

We can start calling him AlwaysLame.


Or NoNads.


--
Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:10:48 -0700, Fred Abse
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:17:58 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:00:08 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:38:45 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

Excellent proper use of a ferrite bead on one leg of each device.

Ferrite beads? Where?

How about this...

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Amp.jpg


Your FTP server wouldn't let me have it using wget (it used to). I had to
fire the damn browser up.

Firefox views FTP files just fine. The FireFTP plugin is a very nice
drag-and-drop FTP client. I never learned how to type (does it show?)
so d+d works for me.

John

"John Larkin" wrote
in message ...
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:10:48 -0700, Fred Abse
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:17:58 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:00:08 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:38:45 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

Excellent proper use of a ferrite bead on one leg of each device.

Ferrite beads? Where?

How about this...

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Amp.jpg

Your FTP server wouldn't let me have it using wget (it used to).
I had to fire the damn browser up.

Firefox views FTP files just fine. The FireFTP plugin is a very nice
drag-and-drop FTP client. I never learned how to type (does it show?)
so d+d works for me.

John

I was able to get it via double-click from Outlook Express' newsreader
option, and also via WS-FTP95 using the information given by anonymous
access. I didn't need to "FIRE-UP" any browser at all. 8^)

Bill

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:33:26 -0400, "Bill Garber"
wrote:


"John Larkin" wrote
in message ...
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:10:48 -0700, Fred Abse
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:17:58 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:00:08 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:38:45 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

Excellent proper use of a ferrite bead on one leg of each device.

Ferrite beads? Where?

How about this...

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Amp.jpg

Your FTP server wouldn't let me have it using wget (it used to).
I had to fire the damn browser up.

Firefox views FTP files just fine. The FireFTP plugin is a very nice
drag-and-drop FTP client. I never learned how to type (does it show?)
so d+d works for me.

John

I was able to get it via double-click from Outlook Express' newsreader
option, and also via WS-FTP95 using the information given by anonymous
access. I didn't need to "FIRE-UP" any browser at all. 8^)

Bill



I guess pushing that "mouse" thing twice _is_ an excessive amount of
work.

John

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:46:29 -0700, Fred Abse
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:33:26 -0400, Bill Garber wrote:

I was able to get it via double-click from Outlook Express' newsreader
option, and also via WS-FTP95 using the information given by anonymous
access. I didn't need to "FIRE-UP" any browser at all. 8^)

This news client doesn't automatically reference ftp links, only http.

I *could* have used gftp, or plain old command line ftp, or even link
John's ftp directory tree into my own tree, using the file manager and
just copy across. However, I *wanted* to use wget, since it's quick and
clean. Firefox was the next least labor-intensive way, copy-click- paste.

Bet you don't have a file manager that does ftp ;-)

Using the Agent newsreader, I can double-click on a web or ftp link in
a usenet post or in email, and it launches a Firefox tab and opens the
thing. This is under XP.

John

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:46:29 -0700, Fred Abse
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:33:26 -0400, Bill Garber wrote:

I was able to get it via double-click from Outlook Express' newsreader
option, and also via WS-FTP95 using the information given by anonymous
access. I didn't need to "FIRE-UP" any browser at all. 8^)

This news client doesn't automatically reference ftp links, only http.

I *could* have used gftp, or plain old command line ftp, or even link
John's ftp directory tree into my own tree, using the file manager and
just copy across. However, I *wanted* to use wget, since it's quick and
clean. Firefox was the next least labor-intensive way, copy-click- paste.

Bet you don't have a file manager that does ftp ;-)

Actually, the file explorer has no problem doing it. The thing is that
it now simply spawns an Iexporer session instead of resolving it the way
it used to.

"Fred Abse" wrote in message
news
Bet you don't have a file manager that does ftp ;-)

Windows does FTP natively. You can connect network addresses in your
Network Neighborhood.

Tim

--
Deep Friar: a very philosophical monk.
Website: http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:06:15 -0700, Fred Abse
wrote:


I knew that. I just prefer to use wget and get on with other things.
Firefox takes time to load, eats resources, and needs human intervention
in most cases, though not in this case, I'll admit.

Jeez... you are about as stupid as it gets. You do all of what... ONE
TASK at a time, and you think you need to worry about processes and such?
That is your bent brain using its "knowledge" in places where it is not
needed (or correct). ALL processes take up resources, idiot. And no,
properly set up, firefox DLs auto-magically to your selected folder. It
only prompts you if you have it set to do so. So, it requires no more
user operations than the other method does. Less even.

The ****ing reasons these loons come up with for NOT using the power of
their PC astounds me. How did you ever climb above user mentality level
one? Do you even know what a cursor key is or what it does or what it is
for?

Nice picture, anyway.

What a dope.

On 3/20/2010 6:06 PM, Fred Abse wrote:
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:31:07 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:10:48 -0700, Fred Abse
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:17:58 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:00:08 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:38:45 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

Excellent proper use of a ferrite bead on one leg of each device.

Ferrite beads? Where?

How about this...

ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Amp.jpg


Your FTP server wouldn't let me have it using wget (it used to). I had to
fire the damn browser up.

Firefox views FTP files just fine. The FireFTP plugin is a very nice
drag-and-drop FTP client. I never learned how to type (does it show?)
so d+d works for me.

I knew that. I just prefer to use wget and get on with other things.
Firefox takes time to load, eats resources, and needs human intervention
in most cases, though not in this case, I'll admit.

Nice picture, anyway.


Might be a firewall config issue--active vs passive?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal
ElectroOptical Innovations
55 Orchard Rd
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
845-480-2058
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:00:08 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:38:45 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

Excellent proper use of a ferrite bead on one leg of each device.

---
Sorry, but those are ring-tongue terminals soldered around the emitters
of the transistors.

JF

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:05:08 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:00:08 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:38:45 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

Excellent proper use of a ferrite bead on one leg of each device.

---
Sorry, but those are ring-tongue terminals soldered around the emitters
of the transistors.

JF

Yeah, I saw that. It looked so similar to an amplifier I made some
years back, that with just a glance I thought I saw the same thing.
We had transzorbs on each device as well. Oh well... so much for quick
glances.

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:27:19 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:05:08 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:00:08 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:38:45 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

Excellent proper use of a ferrite bead on one leg of each device.

---
Sorry, but those are ring-tongue terminals soldered around the emitters
of the transistors.

JF

Yeah, I saw that. It looked so similar to an amplifier I made some
years back, that with just a glance I thought I saw the same thing.
We had transzorbs on each device as well. Oh well... so much for quick
glances.

Does that mean I'm *not* blind as a bat?

John

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:32:09 -0700, John Larkin
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:27:19 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:05:08 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:00:08 -0700, Archimedes' Lever
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:38:45 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

Excellent proper use of a ferrite bead on one leg of each device.

---
Sorry, but those are ring-tongue terminals soldered around the emitters
of the transistors.

JF

Yeah, I saw that. It looked so similar to an amplifier I made some
years back, that with just a glance I thought I saw the same thing.
We had transzorbs on each device as well. Oh well... so much for quick
glances.

Does that mean I'm *not* blind as a bat?

John

No, but if you think that "rackmount" "solution" you have where the
transformer weighs a bus load is a good design, you're nuts. It either
MUST be used as the bottom element in the rack. It should actually be
two rackmount modules, considering the fact that it is obvious that lead
length doesn't bother you. We had an amplifier module that had two 2kVA
units in the bottom of it. It was on wheels, and would never have been
considered as a rack mount capable installation, and those transformers
together weighed less than the monster you sport.