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Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files?
I only want to "wipe" old tax data and old medical records from this PC. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food |
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message ... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I've used "Eraser" for this purpose: http://eraser.heidi.ie/ (it's free). ---Joel |
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message ... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I've used "Eraser" for this purpose: http://eraser.heidi.ie/ (it's free). ---Joel |
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message ... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I've used "Eraser" for this purpose: http://eraser.heidi.ie/ (it's free). ---Joel |
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On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:33:22 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I've used "Eraser" for this purpose: http://eraser.heidi.ie/ (it's free). ---Joel Thanks! I'll check it out. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Obama clearly blames insurance companies for his mother's death from cancer. One then has to wonder if this whole health bill isn't a personal vendetta against private insurance companies? |
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On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:33:22 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I've used "Eraser" for this purpose: http://eraser.heidi.ie/ (it's free). ---Joel Thanks! I'll check it out. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Obama clearly blames insurance companies for his mother's death from cancer. One then has to wonder if this whole health bill isn't a personal vendetta against private insurance companies? |
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On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:33:22 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I've used "Eraser" for this purpose: http://eraser.heidi.ie/ (it's free). ---Joel Thanks! I'll check it out. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Obama clearly blames insurance companies for his mother's death from cancer. One then has to wonder if this whole health bill isn't a personal vendetta against private insurance companies? |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:33:22 -0700, "Joel Koltner" wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I've used "Eraser" for this purpose: http://eraser.heidi.ie/ (it's free). ---Joel Thanks! I'll check it out. ...Jim Thompson One has to wonder if the free stuff is engineered by NSA hacks like in the Swiss Crypto AG scam. -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY"© "Use only Genuine Interocitor Parts" Tom Servo ;-P |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:33:22 -0700, "Joel Koltner" wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I've used "Eraser" for this purpose: http://eraser.heidi.ie/ (it's free). ---Joel Thanks! I'll check it out. ...Jim Thompson One has to wonder if the free stuff is engineered by NSA hacks like in the Swiss Crypto AG scam. -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY"© "Use only Genuine Interocitor Parts" Tom Servo ;-P |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:33:22 -0700, "Joel Koltner" wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I've used "Eraser" for this purpose: http://eraser.heidi.ie/ (it's free). ---Joel Thanks! I'll check it out. ...Jim Thompson One has to wonder if the free stuff is engineered by NSA hacks like in the Swiss Crypto AG scam. -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY"© "Use only Genuine Interocitor Parts" Tom Servo ;-P |
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On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:48:33 -0400, RFI-EMI-GUY
wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:33:22 -0700, "Joel Koltner" wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I've used "Eraser" for this purpose: http://eraser.heidi.ie/ (it's free). ---Joel Thanks! I'll check it out. ...Jim Thompson One has to wonder if the free stuff is engineered by NSA hacks like in the Swiss Crypto AG scam. Why suspect only the free stuff? |
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On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:48:33 -0400, RFI-EMI-GUY
wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:33:22 -0700, "Joel Koltner" wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I've used "Eraser" for this purpose: http://eraser.heidi.ie/ (it's free). ---Joel Thanks! I'll check it out. ...Jim Thompson One has to wonder if the free stuff is engineered by NSA hacks like in the Swiss Crypto AG scam. Why suspect only the free stuff? |
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"WangoTango" wrote in message k.net... In article , To-Email-Use- says... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I only want to "wipe" old tax data and old medical records from this PC. ...Jim Thompson I know of several that allow you to toss files into a "shredder" that does a wipe of the file during deletion, but I don't know of any that will purge old data. Maybe undelete them and then shred them? Ah, found one that says it will go over unused disk space and wipe it too, and it is free. http://www.fileshredder.org/ Doesn't defrag have a clear unused space option? - the space occupied by an erased file being marked as unused should then be cleared. Another option is create a short term folder and fill it up with any old CDs/DVDs found laying about until the remaining capacity is filled, then delete the short term folder. That way any attempt to recover deleted files only gets a bunch of old DVDs. |
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"WangoTango" wrote in message k.net... In article , To-Email-Use- says... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I only want to "wipe" old tax data and old medical records from this PC. ...Jim Thompson I know of several that allow you to toss files into a "shredder" that does a wipe of the file during deletion, but I don't know of any that will purge old data. Maybe undelete them and then shred them? Ah, found one that says it will go over unused disk space and wipe it too, and it is free. http://www.fileshredder.org/ Doesn't defrag have a clear unused space option? - the space occupied by an erased file being marked as unused should then be cleared. Another option is create a short term folder and fill it up with any old CDs/DVDs found laying about until the remaining capacity is filled, then delete the short term folder. That way any attempt to recover deleted files only gets a bunch of old DVDs. |
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says... "WangoTango" wrote in message k.net... In article , To-Email-Use- says... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I only want to "wipe" old tax data and old medical records from this PC. ...Jim Thompson I know of several that allow you to toss files into a "shredder" that does a wipe of the file during deletion, but I don't know of any that will purge old data. Maybe undelete them and then shred them? Ah, found one that says it will go over unused disk space and wipe it too, and it is free. http://www.fileshredder.org/ Doesn't defrag have a clear unused space option? - the space occupied by an erased file being marked as unused should then be cleared. Another option is create a short term folder and fill it up with any old CDs/DVDs found laying about until the remaining capacity is filled, then delete the short term folder. That way any attempt to recover deleted files only gets a bunch of old DVDs. If that option is there, I have never noticed it. Anyway, I have used Diskeeper automatic defrag for years, it uses free system time to defrag in the back ground continuously. I'm sure that makes a mess of any left over file data over time, but I wouldn't bet the house on it. The filling up unused space with data is pretty much what fileshredder is doing to the disk when it scrubs the disk. From what I read, it just fills up all the unused disk space with random data. You accomplish the same thing without spending hours ripping DVDs. What bugs me is what do to with a new drive that fails under warranty. If you send it in for repair, you are sending your data off to some anonymous guy in a repair center. The only really secure option is to bite the bullet and physically destroy a new drive. If you don't think that happens all that often, just google "Seagate 1TB drive failures". I have two high end work stations running 4TB striped/mirrored RAID arrays, and 2 new backup blank drives for swapping. Of those 12 1TB drives 10 of them died within 3 months. What do you do? Send off chunks of confidential customer and in house information to the repair center or destroy the drive? Jim |
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:41:24 -0400, WangoTango
wrote: What bugs me is what do to with a new drive that fails under warranty. If you send it in for repair, you are sending your data off to some anonymous guy in a repair center. The only really secure option is to bite the bullet and physically destroy a new drive. If you don't think that happens all that often, just google "Seagate 1TB drive failures". I have two high end work stations running 4TB striped/mirrored RAID arrays, and 2 new backup blank drives for swapping. Of those 12 1TB drives 10 of them died within 3 months. What do you do? Send off chunks of confidential customer and in house information to the repair center or destroy the drive? Jim Once it has confidential info on it, I NEVER willingly allow a hard drive to leave my control. Period. I still have at least one 40M drive in locked storage (that's 40M, not 40G!). |
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:41:24 -0400, WangoTango
wrote: What bugs me is what do to with a new drive that fails under warranty. If you send it in for repair, you are sending your data off to some anonymous guy in a repair center. The only really secure option is to bite the bullet and physically destroy a new drive. If you don't think that happens all that often, just google "Seagate 1TB drive failures". I have two high end work stations running 4TB striped/mirrored RAID arrays, and 2 new backup blank drives for swapping. Of those 12 1TB drives 10 of them died within 3 months. What do you do? Send off chunks of confidential customer and in house information to the repair center or destroy the drive? Jim Once it has confidential info on it, I NEVER willingly allow a hard drive to leave my control. Period. I still have at least one 40M drive in locked storage (that's 40M, not 40G!). |
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:49:48 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:41:24 -0400, WangoTango wrote: What bugs me is what do to with a new drive that fails under warranty. If you send it in for repair, you are sending your data off to some anonymous guy in a repair center. The only really secure option is to bite the bullet and physically destroy a new drive. If you don't think that happens all that often, just google "Seagate 1TB drive failures". I have two high end work stations running 4TB striped/mirrored RAID arrays, and 2 new backup blank drives for swapping. Of those 12 1TB drives 10 of them died within 3 months. What do you do? Send off chunks of confidential customer and in house information to the repair center or destroy the drive? Jim Once it has confidential info on it, I NEVER willingly allow a hard drive to leave my control. Period. I still have at least one 40M drive in locked storage (that's 40M, not 40G!). They make nice door stops ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food |
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:49:48 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:41:24 -0400, WangoTango wrote: What bugs me is what do to with a new drive that fails under warranty. If you send it in for repair, you are sending your data off to some anonymous guy in a repair center. The only really secure option is to bite the bullet and physically destroy a new drive. If you don't think that happens all that often, just google "Seagate 1TB drive failures". I have two high end work stations running 4TB striped/mirrored RAID arrays, and 2 new backup blank drives for swapping. Of those 12 1TB drives 10 of them died within 3 months. What do you do? Send off chunks of confidential customer and in house information to the repair center or destroy the drive? Jim Once it has confidential info on it, I NEVER willingly allow a hard drive to leave my control. Period. I still have at least one 40M drive in locked storage (that's 40M, not 40G!). They make nice door stops ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food |
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"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message ... On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:41:24 -0400, WangoTango wrote: What bugs me is what do to with a new drive that fails under warranty. If you send it in for repair, you are sending your data off to some anonymous guy in a repair center. The only really secure option is to bite the bullet and physically destroy a new drive. If you don't think that happens all that often, just google "Seagate 1TB drive failures". I have two high end work stations running 4TB striped/mirrored RAID arrays, and 2 new backup blank drives for swapping. Of those 12 1TB drives 10 of them died within 3 months. What do you do? Send off chunks of confidential customer and in house information to the repair center or destroy the drive? Jim Once it has confidential info on it, I NEVER willingly allow a hard drive to leave my control. Period. I still have at least one 40M drive in locked storage (that's 40M, not 40G!). Why waste space in locked storage for a 40M drive?! Just run it through a few times with a 3/8" bit in a pillar drill and then bin it. |
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"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message ... On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:41:24 -0400, WangoTango wrote: What bugs me is what do to with a new drive that fails under warranty. If you send it in for repair, you are sending your data off to some anonymous guy in a repair center. The only really secure option is to bite the bullet and physically destroy a new drive. If you don't think that happens all that often, just google "Seagate 1TB drive failures". I have two high end work stations running 4TB striped/mirrored RAID arrays, and 2 new backup blank drives for swapping. Of those 12 1TB drives 10 of them died within 3 months. What do you do? Send off chunks of confidential customer and in house information to the repair center or destroy the drive? Jim Once it has confidential info on it, I NEVER willingly allow a hard drive to leave my control. Period. I still have at least one 40M drive in locked storage (that's 40M, not 40G!). Why waste space in locked storage for a 40M drive?! Just run it through a few times with a 3/8" bit in a pillar drill and then bin it. |
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"WangoTango" wrote in message k.net... In article , says... "WangoTango" wrote in message k.net... In article , To-Email-Use- says... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I only want to "wipe" old tax data and old medical records from this PC. ...Jim Thompson I know of several that allow you to toss files into a "shredder" that does a wipe of the file during deletion, but I don't know of any that will purge old data. Maybe undelete them and then shred them? Ah, found one that says it will go over unused disk space and wipe it too, and it is free. http://www.fileshredder.org/ Doesn't defrag have a clear unused space option? - the space occupied by an erased file being marked as unused should then be cleared. Another option is create a short term folder and fill it up with any old CDs/DVDs found laying about until the remaining capacity is filled, then delete the short term folder. That way any attempt to recover deleted files only gets a bunch of old DVDs. If that option is there, I have never noticed it. Anyway, I have used Diskeeper automatic defrag for years, it uses free system time to defrag in the back ground continuously. I'm sure that makes a mess of any left over file data over time, but I wouldn't bet the house on it. The filling up unused space with data is pretty much what fileshredder is doing to the disk when it scrubs the disk. From what I read, it just fills up all the unused disk space with random data. You accomplish the same thing without spending hours ripping DVDs. What bugs me is what do to with a new drive that fails under warranty. If you send it in for repair, you are sending your data off to some anonymous guy in a repair center. The only really secure option is to bite the bullet and physically destroy a new drive. If you don't think that happens all that often, just google "Seagate 1TB drive failures". I have two high end work stations running 4TB striped/mirrored RAID arrays, and 2 new backup blank drives for swapping. Of those 12 1TB drives 10 of them died within 3 months. What do you do? Send off chunks of confidential customer and in house information to the repair center or destroy the drive? Jim http://www.videosift.com/video/Spy-c...acy-violations |
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"WangoTango" wrote in message k.net... In article , says... "WangoTango" wrote in message k.net... In article , To-Email-Use- says... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I only want to "wipe" old tax data and old medical records from this PC. ...Jim Thompson I know of several that allow you to toss files into a "shredder" that does a wipe of the file during deletion, but I don't know of any that will purge old data. Maybe undelete them and then shred them? Ah, found one that says it will go over unused disk space and wipe it too, and it is free. http://www.fileshredder.org/ Doesn't defrag have a clear unused space option? - the space occupied by an erased file being marked as unused should then be cleared. Another option is create a short term folder and fill it up with any old CDs/DVDs found laying about until the remaining capacity is filled, then delete the short term folder. That way any attempt to recover deleted files only gets a bunch of old DVDs. If that option is there, I have never noticed it. Anyway, I have used Diskeeper automatic defrag for years, it uses free system time to defrag in the back ground continuously. I'm sure that makes a mess of any left over file data over time, but I wouldn't bet the house on it. The filling up unused space with data is pretty much what fileshredder is doing to the disk when it scrubs the disk. From what I read, it just fills up all the unused disk space with random data. You accomplish the same thing without spending hours ripping DVDs. What bugs me is what do to with a new drive that fails under warranty. If you send it in for repair, you are sending your data off to some anonymous guy in a repair center. The only really secure option is to bite the bullet and physically destroy a new drive. If you don't think that happens all that often, just google "Seagate 1TB drive failures". I have two high end work stations running 4TB striped/mirrored RAID arrays, and 2 new backup blank drives for swapping. Of those 12 1TB drives 10 of them died within 3 months. What do you do? Send off chunks of confidential customer and in house information to the repair center or destroy the drive? Jim http://www.videosift.com/video/Spy-c...acy-violations |
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:14:36 -0400, WangoTango
wrote: In article , says... "WangoTango" wrote in message k.net... [snip] What bugs me is what do to with a new drive that fails under warranty. If you send it in for repair, you are sending your data off to some anonymous guy in a repair center. The only really secure option is to bite the bullet and physically destroy a new drive. If you don't think that happens all that often, just google "Seagate 1TB drive failures". I have two high end work stations running 4TB striped/mirrored RAID arrays, and 2 new backup blank drives for swapping. Of those 12 1TB drives 10 of them died within 3 months. What do you do? Send off chunks of confidential customer and in house information to the repair center or destroy the drive? Jim Were the 10 failed ones all Seagate? Bob Every f'in one of them. All bought at the same time, all died within 3 months. 1TB Barracuda Interal Drives. From what I read, firmware issues, so the data is still there. Even more of a reason to NOT let them go. I didn't lose any data, I am a stickler for backing up and I never had more than one drive fail on a stripe at once, so I swapped the drives as they failed and the array rebuilt on the fly. Somebody (Dell?) offers an additional-cost option where you can get warranty service without returning the HDD. Don't know how they work it, whether it's honor system or they require you to somehow disable the old HDD in some verifiable manner. |
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:14:36 -0400, WangoTango
wrote: In article , says... "WangoTango" wrote in message k.net... [snip] What bugs me is what do to with a new drive that fails under warranty. If you send it in for repair, you are sending your data off to some anonymous guy in a repair center. The only really secure option is to bite the bullet and physically destroy a new drive. If you don't think that happens all that often, just google "Seagate 1TB drive failures". I have two high end work stations running 4TB striped/mirrored RAID arrays, and 2 new backup blank drives for swapping. Of those 12 1TB drives 10 of them died within 3 months. What do you do? Send off chunks of confidential customer and in house information to the repair center or destroy the drive? Jim Were the 10 failed ones all Seagate? Bob Every f'in one of them. All bought at the same time, all died within 3 months. 1TB Barracuda Interal Drives. From what I read, firmware issues, so the data is still there. Even more of a reason to NOT let them go. I didn't lose any data, I am a stickler for backing up and I never had more than one drive fail on a stripe at once, so I swapped the drives as they failed and the array rebuilt on the fly. Somebody (Dell?) offers an additional-cost option where you can get warranty service without returning the HDD. Don't know how they work it, whether it's honor system or they require you to somehow disable the old HDD in some verifiable manner. |
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In article ,
says... "WangoTango" wrote in message k.net... In article , says... "WangoTango" wrote in message k.net... In article , To-Email-Use- says... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I only want to "wipe" old tax data and old medical records from this PC. ...Jim Thompson I know of several that allow you to toss files into a "shredder" that does a wipe of the file during deletion, but I don't know of any that will purge old data. Maybe undelete them and then shred them? Ah, found one that says it will go over unused disk space and wipe it too, and it is free. http://www.fileshredder.org/ Doesn't defrag have a clear unused space option? - the space occupied by an erased file being marked as unused should then be cleared. Another option is create a short term folder and fill it up with any old CDs/DVDs found laying about until the remaining capacity is filled, then delete the short term folder. That way any attempt to recover deleted files only gets a bunch of old DVDs. If that option is there, I have never noticed it. Anyway, I have used Diskeeper automatic defrag for years, it uses free system time to defrag in the back ground continuously. I'm sure that makes a mess of any left over file data over time, but I wouldn't bet the house on it. The filling up unused space with data is pretty much what fileshredder is doing to the disk when it scrubs the disk. From what I read, it just fills up all the unused disk space with random data. You accomplish the same thing without spending hours ripping DVDs. What bugs me is what do to with a new drive that fails under warranty. If you send it in for repair, you are sending your data off to some anonymous guy in a repair center. The only really secure option is to bite the bullet and physically destroy a new drive. If you don't think that happens all that often, just google "Seagate 1TB drive failures". I have two high end work stations running 4TB striped/mirrored RAID arrays, and 2 new backup blank drives for swapping. Of those 12 1TB drives 10 of them died within 3 months. What do you do? Send off chunks of confidential customer and in house information to the repair center or destroy the drive? Jim http://www.videosift.com/video/Spy-c...acy-violations Nice, that's why we bust them up and sometimes give them a dip in the big solder pot to boot. We send the pieces off to a metal recovery plant that grinds it all up and recovers the various metals. |
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Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:41:24 -0400, WangoTango wrote: Once it has confidential info on it, I NEVER willingly allow a hard drive to leave my control. Period. I still have at least one 40M drive in locked storage (that's 40M, not 40G!). It may be just a rumor, but I've heard an acceptable military option is to fire a .45 slug or two through the drive, case and all. |
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Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:41:24 -0400, WangoTango wrote: Once it has confidential info on it, I NEVER willingly allow a hard drive to leave my control. Period. I still have at least one 40M drive in locked storage (that's 40M, not 40G!). It may be just a rumor, but I've heard an acceptable military option is to fire a .45 slug or two through the drive, case and all. |
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:43:19 -0700, whirled peas
wrote: Spehro Pefhany wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:41:24 -0400, WangoTango wrote: Once it has confidential info on it, I NEVER willingly allow a hard drive to leave my control. Period. I still have at least one 40M drive in locked storage (that's 40M, not 40G!). It may be just a rumor, but I've heard an acceptable military option is to fire a .45 slug or two through the drive, case and all. That sounds hopelessly optimistic for any modern HDD and really sensitive data (though it would certainly stop the most common kind of snooper). Most of the surface of the disk will be intact and MOST of the data could be recovered. Even an intact chunk a few mm in size could contain a lot of data because the surface density of data is so high. I think a cement kiln or maybe a hammer mill with a small enough sieve would be more effective and probably safer. Even media that once contained top secret data is still considered top secret after being 'sanitized'. http://www.dsd.gov.au/_lib/pdf_doc/i...08_unclass.pdf |
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:43:19 -0700, whirled peas
wrote: Spehro Pefhany wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:41:24 -0400, WangoTango wrote: Once it has confidential info on it, I NEVER willingly allow a hard drive to leave my control. Period. I still have at least one 40M drive in locked storage (that's 40M, not 40G!). It may be just a rumor, but I've heard an acceptable military option is to fire a .45 slug or two through the drive, case and all. That sounds hopelessly optimistic for any modern HDD and really sensitive data (though it would certainly stop the most common kind of snooper). Most of the surface of the disk will be intact and MOST of the data could be recovered. Even an intact chunk a few mm in size could contain a lot of data because the surface density of data is so high. I think a cement kiln or maybe a hammer mill with a small enough sieve would be more effective and probably safer. Even media that once contained top secret data is still considered top secret after being 'sanitized'. http://www.dsd.gov.au/_lib/pdf_doc/i...08_unclass.pdf |
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:43:48 -0400, WangoTango
wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:14:36 -0400, WangoTango wrote: In article , says... "WangoTango" wrote in message k.net... [snip] What bugs me is what do to with a new drive that fails under warranty. If you send it in for repair, you are sending your data off to some anonymous guy in a repair center. The only really secure option is to bite the bullet and physically destroy a new drive. If you don't think that happens all that often, just google "Seagate 1TB drive failures". I have two high end work stations running 4TB striped/mirrored RAID arrays, and 2 new backup blank drives for swapping. Of those 12 1TB drives 10 of them died within 3 months. What do you do? Send off chunks of confidential customer and in house information to the repair center or destroy the drive? Jim Were the 10 failed ones all Seagate? Bob Every f'in one of them. All bought at the same time, all died within 3 months. 1TB Barracuda Interal Drives. From what I read, firmware issues, so the data is still there. Even more of a reason to NOT let them go. I didn't lose any data, I am a stickler for backing up and I never had more than one drive fail on a stripe at once, so I swapped the drives as they failed and the array rebuilt on the fly. Somebody (Dell?) offers an additional-cost option where you can get warranty service without returning the HDD. Don't know how they work it, whether it's honor system or they require you to somehow disable the old HDD in some verifiable manner. That's cool, but I guess there is a price when you build up a bleeding edge system from scratch. 6 months later the parts are 1/3 the cost and more stable. Irritating, isn't it? My striped RAID system with dual 10K RPM disks is almost matched in speed by a single WD 'AALS' drive costing $75 (a couple of years later, but 1/4 the price). |
Wipedisk Question
"ian field" wrote in message
... Why waste space in locked storage for a 40M drive?! Just run it through a few times with a 3/8" bit in a pillar drill and then bin it. I prefer thermite. It should also be sufficient to heat the media to the curie point (or run it over with a strong degausser). Neither works very well with the case together, but anyone with a torx bit can get inside at the expense of less than a minute's labor. Tim -- Deep Friar: a very philosophical monk. Website: http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms |
Wipedisk Question
"ian field" wrote in message
... Why waste space in locked storage for a 40M drive?! Just run it through a few times with a 3/8" bit in a pillar drill and then bin it. I prefer thermite. It should also be sufficient to heat the media to the curie point (or run it over with a strong degausser). Neither works very well with the case together, but anyone with a torx bit can get inside at the expense of less than a minute's labor. Tim -- Deep Friar: a very philosophical monk. Website: http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms |
Wipedisk Question
"RFI-EMI-GUY" wrote in message ng.com... Jim Thompson wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:33:22 -0700, "Joel Koltner" wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I've used "Eraser" for this purpose: http://eraser.heidi.ie/ (it's free). ---Joel Thanks! I'll check it out. ...Jim Thompson One has to wonder if the free stuff is engineered by NSA hacks like in the Swiss Crypto AG scam. -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY"© "Use only Genuine Interocitor Parts" Tom Servo ;-P Eraser at least is open source which goes a long ways to addressing that concern. |
Wipedisk Question
"RFI-EMI-GUY" wrote in message ng.com... Jim Thompson wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:33:22 -0700, "Joel Koltner" wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... Is there a "wipedisk" product that will only wipe "erased" files? I've used "Eraser" for this purpose: http://eraser.heidi.ie/ (it's free). ---Joel Thanks! I'll check it out. ...Jim Thompson One has to wonder if the free stuff is engineered by NSA hacks like in the Swiss Crypto AG scam. -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "The RFI-EMI-GUY"© "Use only Genuine Interocitor Parts" Tom Servo ;-P Eraser at least is open source which goes a long ways to addressing that concern. |
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