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Fletis Humplebacker
 
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Duane Bozarth wrote:
Fletis Humplebacker wrote:

Duane Bozarth wrote:

Fletis Humplebacker wrote:
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... I've even said what the approach
should be to be fair to science and the students. You seem to be evading
reading it. No one suggested that science stop so your assertion is
quite false.


No, you've replied in generalities about there being "obvious" design


That isn't quite right either. I said many scientists see evidence
for design.



but neglected to answer the questions of how this is to be demonstrated
(other than by faith and assertion)


I've answered that as well. I even posted links as to what led them
to their conclusions. In the case of the Cambrian Explosion the
evidence doesn't fit the long running assertions of natural outcome.
You want to embrace those assertions because it appeals to you but
ignore the fossil record. That's a demonstration that requires no faith
and no assertion. If you can demonstrate that the Cambrian Explosion
records supports Darwinian Evolution, I'd like to see it. I'm not on trial
here, the ball is in your court. If you keep saying I'm not answering
we will know who is really ducking the issue.



I'm not so much interested in defending "Darwinian evolution" because
that implies a severe simplification of what we now know.


Well now, this is getting interesting. Darwinian Evolution is
evolution in the sense of natural selection and random mutation
as opposed to "micro-evolution", which we all agree on.

http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/Evolution
The word "evolution" is often used as a shorthand for the modern theory of
evolution of species based upon Darwin's theory of natural selection.




I've never
contended we know everything at the present time, only that to presume
there isn't a natural explanation is to remove the exploration from the
realm of science.


You've made that false assertion a number of times, I've linked
to scientists that refute it, like Dr. Paul Chien, chairman of the biology
department at the University of San Francisco...
http://www.origins.org/articles/chie...ionoflife.html

It seems that you have buried your head in the sand.



and how/whether this
intervention/design is/was a one-time or continuing process


... It isn't important...



"It isn't important" isn't much of an answer...



You snipped the rest on why it isn't important to the question.
I said many times that it would be a matter of personal belief
and isn't relevant to whether a designer could be responsible for
the design.



and also how
that can be demonstrated or reconciled w/ natural processes.


Again, your question misses the point. The point isn't how the unnatural
can be reconciled with the natural but how the natural can be the cause
for unnatural events.



But that is the point. If it is unnatural, then how can one possibly
have any explanation other than "because"? Is that science in your
opinion?


It's obviously part of it because the point made quite redundant by
now is that life and the universe has no natural cause. If you have
one please share...