World Traveler wrote:

"Tim Daneliuk" wrote in message
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....snip preceding which ends up w/ reference to Greene...

And these preconditions arose from where?

Read the book. It looks like you'd prefer an endless loop, which can just
as well be tied to the ID nonsense. If there's an intelligent designer,
then who created the intelligent designer? And if that, then who created .
. . etc.

I think "the turtles all the way down" explanation would work...