On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 08:12:19 GMT, "Peter"
wrote:

"none" wrote in message ...
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:59:37 GMT, Chuck wrote:

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 08:53:14 GMT, "Arfa Daily"
wrote:

Hi all

I am never EVER going to buy another printer from Epson. For years I used
HPs without any problem at all. I then changed to an Epson on the grounds
that the cartridges were cheaper to buy, because the heads weren't built in.
First mistake. The heads used to clog up on a regular basis. OK, it was a
cheap printer, so eventually I threw it away. Stupidly, I allowed a salesman
to talk me into another much more sophisticated model, which had card slots
for printing off my photos. And what does this one do ? Right ... the heads
clog about once a week.

This morning, as I was printing off a circuit diagram, I watched as the
stupid piece of ****e clogged on the black half way through the print. If I
was using garbage inks or refills, I might be able to understand it, but I
have ALWAYS used the genuine article right from the day it came out of the
box.

Of course, there's always the cleaning program. Yeah, right ...

This piece of software is such CRAP, that it can only do ALL of the heads at
once. It usually takes anything up to FOUR runs of this rotten program to
clear a clogged head. Each run uses about a gallon of ink, so by the time
you've got the black unclogged, you've also sprayed about 10 quids worth of
Mag Yell and Cyan into the bottom of the printer for no good reason other
than making the time a bit closer when you've got to line Epson's pocket
again for some more of their ludicrously priced dye.

I read somewhere the other day that home printer ink is the most expensive
fluid on the planet. I can vouch for that.

So, am I just being unlucky, or has anyone else had similar problems ? This
one's close to being drop kicked down the garden ...

Arfa



I have a C60 that I use once a week. I use only Epson cartridges and
it plugs up at least every other time I use it. We have used HPs,
Canons and Lexmarks in the past, none of which plug up. Chuck

Epson printer's are pure crap, at least the one's I've wasted my money
on.
That includes the following models:
Epson Stylus Pro and Pro XL.
Epson Stylus 1500 and the later "Colorado" model.
Epson 800

I have a storage locker full of Epson crap that we had to sideline
because of the constant problems associated with these printers,
namely clogging and loss of seal integrity on the ink tanks.
I'd even managed to burn out the pezio heads on a couple of them
running the endless cleaning cycles Epson insists would "fix" the
banding problems.
We run a pro print shop and in the mid to late 90's saw inexpensive
inkjets as a solution for "spot color" work in our smaller print
runs(offset). Also as a low cost proof system on our bigger four color
work.
The Epson's failed miserably, they were neither reliable enough to
cost effective and Epson never came out with any pantone ink
cartridges that were work a fck.
We finally went with a couple of mid level plotters from Encad and
haven't had any problems since.
We've also purchased a few Lexmark printers as well as two of Canon's
better offerings that have done a bangup job for our low-end work.

I can't emphasize enough that one should stay away from anything
Epson.

Lexmark? Lexmark?? I wish you'd include your company name,
so I can be sure to keep my customers at least 100 feet from it.

Were you using third-party inks?

We had occasional clogs on our old Stylus Color 800, and zero
clogs after nearly a year on our R800. Apparently Epson has
addressed the problem, at least partially.

YEAH, Lexmark. WE have several in use in the front offices as well and
have had NO problems with them what-so-ever.
The brand of ink has little to do with how reliably a printer
performs. If the basic design is flawed it'll clog with whatever ink
you use.
To answer your question though we had just as many clogs and seal loss
problems with Epson's cartridges as with the better pro inks and tanks
we used. (German made tanks and pantone inks.)
Problem is Epson printers use pizeo prints heads and the whole concept
sucks, it just isn't as reliable as the other designs available.
Besides if you subscribe to the notion that it's ok to buy a printer
that MUST only have the oem's ink cartridges you certainly can't be in
this as a professional, or maybe you work for Epson?(Epson is
basically a company of liars, what with their telling all their
customers that the use of other brands of ink cartridges voids any and
all warranties when as a fact of law it's just no so.)
On the 800's we had we experienced constant clogs plus the software
drivers were pretty lame as well.(The start up and logic functions on
these models were tedious and slow. enough to drive even the most
patient to fits, especially when after finally getting them in a green
lite mode all you'd get is banding or total clogs on one color or the
other.)
Don't worry if you're any indication of the Intelligence Quotient of
your customer we wouldn't want them walking in our shop in the first
place.