On 10/1/2005 6:39 PM George mumbled something about the following:
Others disagree.

http://www.hawking.org.uk/lectures/dice.html

Mumble on.


"Odinn" wrote in message
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On 9/30/2005 8:03 AM George mumbled something about the following:

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You say that those great Scientists had to "kick Science to the
next level". In fact, they met with resistance not from the
Scientific community but fron politics and religion. It is
not Science that had to be kicked, it was non-Science that
had to be kicked and it often kicked back.



You'll want to re-think that one. Scientists have both politics and
religion - pretty much the same thing , belief over observation - and
thus do not operate in an intellectual ivory tower.

"God does not dice with the universe." Is a famous saying by a famous
physicist, but Heisenberg finally gained acceptance in spite of him.

Actually, the saying is. "God does not play dice with the universe" (you
missed the word 'play'). This was in deferrence to Laplace's theory that
if at one time, we knew the positions and speeds of all the particles in
the universe, then we could calculate their behaviour at any other time,
in the past or future.

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Disagree about what? About it being "God does not play dice" instead of
"God does not dice"?

Quoted from the site that you posted.

Einstein was very unhappy about this apparent randomness in nature. His
views were summed up in his famous phrase, 'God does not play dice'.

Or disagree about it being in deference to Laplace?

Quoted the next sentence from the same site you posted.

He seemed to have felt that the uncertainty was only provisional: but
that there was an underlying reality, in which particles would have well
defined positions and speeds, and would evolve according to
deterministic laws, in the spirit of Laplace.


Now what is Hawkins disagreeing with me about again?
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