On 29 Sep 2005 16:16:03 EDT, Tim Daneliuk wrote:

Steve Peterson wrote:

See http://www.cjr.org/issues/2005/5/mooney.asp and http://www.ncseweb.org/
for some information on evolution and "Intelligent Design." ID is at best a
pseudoscientific attempt to undercut teaching of evolution. It is big on

That may be true. Just bear in mind that postulating intelligent
design/creation is *not* the same argument as demanding a literal
reading of the Genesis account.

public relations and press coverage, but basically void of the key to the
scientific method, i.e. making testable predictions.

Then why is the Science community so terrified to led ID have it's day
in court (journals, conferences, etc.) and *refute* it? So far,
most of what I've found is members of the Science Establishment
taking ad hominem pot shots, not actually refuting the IDer methods
or claims.


Because it could potentially expose their own slavish adherence to a
certain orthodoxy and faith as well as the underlying first postulate that
relies upon suspension of all current laws of science and logic for the
initial genesis of the universe to which they pledge their allegience to
the laws of science and logic? i.e, one of the fundamentals of science and
logic is that for every effect,there must be a cause -- sometimes that
cause is not easy to unravel or identify (ala Locke), but there is a cause.
The fundamental tenet of current cosmology requires the suspension of that
scientific principle (Ex nihilo nihil -- from nothing, nothing comes) and
substitutes instead a non-causal event (from nothing, everything comes).
Until the adherents to this theory can explain the origin of their big bang
and its causitive agent, they have nothing more to stand on than any other
theology.


One quote from Darwin is telling (no, fred, I'm not going to list a cite
-- look it up yourself), when he was questioned regarding fundamental
problems with his theories was that yes, there were problems, but that his
theory was the best thing available that wasn't based on creation -- hardly
a scientific comment.





read the sites if you need actual information to counter such assertions as
"teach the controversy."

Steven Peterson, Ph.D.
Steve #564 on the Steve's List


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