In message . com,
robert AT avenuesupplies DOT co DOT uk
writes
Phil Addison wrote:
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:04:30 +0100, in uk.d-i-y ":::Jerry::::"
wrote:


"Rob Morley" wrote in message
...
In article
ws.net,
LID says...
snip
Whether a newsgroup is accessed via NNTP or HTTP it is still a
newsgroup. If someone selects individual posts or threads and
puts
them
on a website they are creating a derivative work without
consent.

You mean like Google does when you use their commercial search
engine?...

Google Groups is an HTTP front end to Usenet - it isn't selective
of the
content of any particular group, so doesn't constitute a derivative
work.

Did you read what I said?
You are wrong in what you say above, or do you get answers about gas
installations when you search for answers about pitting up a
shelf?!...

If anything Google search is being a dammed sight more selective than
the site that started this thread and what's more, it's being a
dammed sight more commercial with it's targeted adverts that depend
on the search string used.

There is a huge difference between putting up ALL the posts with some
matched ads alongside as per google, and the opposite of putting up a
catalogue page of dozens of CH thermostats you have for sale with a
relevant ng post extracted from the feed and placed beneath them.

Even if that goes over head, it was obvious to Avenue Supplies once
pointed out to them and they have discontinued it. To be on the safe
side they have discontinued their partial newsfeed as well.

I won't be posting further on this so you can be as rude as you like in
reply.

Phil
The uk.d-i-y FAQ is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/
The Google uk.d-i-y archive is at http://tinyurl.com/65kwq
e-mai1: editor (a t) diyfaq (stop) o r g (stop) uk = make obvious
corrections




Avenue Supplies at no time filtered news group posts. This is a
statement that has been used by Phil Addison throughout this thread
that is incorrect. There were a maximum of 8 products that were listed
above a news group thread related only to the subject of the thread
being viewed. The Thread was not manipulated or altered in any way.

The News feed was closed not as an admission rather an attempt to
reduce the slander and witch-hunt that ensued specifically addressed at
Avenue Supplies.

We make every reasonable attempt to correct issues the community may
have with our site. We state that
http://www.avenuesupplies.co.uk/disclaimer.php.

Nobody bothered to contact us showing concern about anything addressed
within this thread prior to letting loose on a public forum. What
gives?

I didn't notice you approaching uk.d-i-y asking if contributors were
happy to you using their posts either

Which would have been at least common courtesy and a positive way to
have approached the issue

--
geoff