"John Cartmell" wrote in message
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In article
ws.net,
:::Jerry:::: wrote:

"Phil Addison" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:32:35 +0100, in uk.d-i-y Chris Bacon
wrote:

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P.S. Do *you* believe in "disclaimers"?

Oh dear, you are confused. A copyright says 'this is mine and
if you want
to copy it you have to negotiate with me'.

But you have posted it to a PUBLIC news feed.... You have in
effect waved
your rights to some degree, as long as someone doesn't try and
pass off
your work as their own (which they are not) there is little or
nothing you
can do short of not posting to a public newsfeed.

Not in this bit of the universe. Every published book is available
publicly -
but that doesn't mean that you give everyone the right to re-print
or
re-publish.

Books (etc.) are written or published for financial gain, people
posting to Usenet are not doing for financial gain. Usenet and the
nntp protocol only work due to ability to 're-publish' peoples
contributions.

Are you seriously suggesting that is someone writes a story (for
example) and then posts it to a Usenet group they could legally
prevent it being 're-published' by other servers?...


All Avenue Supplies are doing is taking that public news feed and
placing
it within a HTML web page - just as Google etc. do.

Re-publishing. They can certainly use extracts as quotes as long as
they
acknowledge source and author. How would you feel if I published a
(printed)
magazine full of advice culled directly from your comments? As it
happens I do
publish a magazine (RISC OS computers - not diy) and occasionally
ask people
to re-state a good news group comment for the magazine. I wouldn't
dream of
just taking the original - much less taking it without permission.


So, you want Google to shut down their nntp web interface server
and archive ?