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Gio Medici
 
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Gunner wrote:

(Gio)
He(Gunner) will never, ever admit
you're right. The only time I remember him admitting a mistake was
over whether or not bears eat kotex.

Gio


There was no debate over whether or not bears eat tampons. They in
fact do. While it was an interesting citation, and answered the
question raised about attacks during mensus, there was no discussion
on tampons. See the quad level statement above for proof.

Thanks by the way for pointing out that once again, you lied.
Gunner


I guess you didn't read the cites (below), or once again *you lied.
It's either that, or I accept your weasling, and have never heard you
admit being wrong.

Gio

"Think of it as your elder brother kicking your ass for letting in the
cat."

(Jon)
Herrero (1985) analyzed the circumstances of hundreds of grizzly bear attacks
on humans, including the attacks on the two women in GNP, and concluded that
there was no evidence linking menstruation to any of the attacks.


Black Bears


Rogers et al. (1991) recorded the responses of 26 free-ranging black bears
(Ursus americanus) to used tampons from 26 women and the responses of 20 free
ranging black bears to four menstruating women at different days of their flow.
Menstrual odors were essentially ignored by black bears of all sex and age
classes. In an extensive review of black bear attacks across North America, no
instances of black bears attacking or being attracted to menstruating women was
found (Cramond 1981, Herrero 1985, Rogers et al. 1991).


Literature Cited:


Byrd, C.P. 1988. Of bears and women: Investigating the hypothesis that
menstruation attracts bears. M.S. Thesis, Univ. Montana, Missoula. 129pp.


http://www.nps.gov/yell/nature /animals/bear/infopaper/info7. html=====


The Interagency Grizzly Bear Committee printed an ambivalent caution
in the government's official grizzly bear pamphlet (Bear Us In Mind) that said,
"Women may choose to stay out of bear country during their menstrual period."
Fortunately, this has since been removed from the pamphlet, because no
scientific evidence suggests that menstrual odors precipitate grizzly bear
attacks.


Cushing BS: Responses of polar bears to human menstrual odors. In Proceedings
of International Conference on Bear Research and Management, 5: 270, 1985


Herrero S: Bear attacks: their causes and avoidance, New York, 1985, Winchester
Press.


http://66.102.7.104/search?q=c ache:vb6xRimlqZEJ:www.yellowst onegrizzl...
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Research implies that black bears couldn't care a whit about human menstrual
odors (Rogers et al., 1991). In this study, black bears were given a choice
between (1) garbage and menses-soaked tampons, or (2) tampons soaked in a.
nothing, b. menstrual blood, c. regular human blood, d. rendered beef fat. In
the first experiment, bears selected garbage over the tampons in every case. In
the second experiment, bears always selected the tampons soaked in beef fat.


Refs:
Cramond, M. 1981. Killer Bears. Outdoor Life Books, Charles Scribner & Sons,
New York.


Cramond, M. 1989. On Bears and Man.


Herrero, S. 1970. Human injury inflicted by grizzly bears. Science 170:593-598.


Herrero, S. 1985. Bear Attacks. Nick Lyons Press, NY.


Rogers, L. L., Wilker, G. A., and Scott, S. S. 1991. Reactions of black bears
to human menstrual odors. J. Wildl. Manage. 55(4): 632-634.


http://tafkac.org/animals/mens truation_and_bears.html==================


The U.S. Forest Service conducted a series of experiments (Rogers et al., 1991)
which tested the responses of both male and female black bears to human
menstrual odors. The first experiment involved the spin-cast introduction of 15
used tampons (in clusters of 5) to adult male black bears foraging in a garbage
dump. Each presentation, therefore, gave the bears a choice between the garbage
and tampons. If the bears ate (like they did the garbage), closely sniffed, or
rolled on the tampons, then they were considered to have paid attention to the
tampons. Of 22 presentations, the bears ignored the used tampons 20 times
(twice casual sniffs were observed), effectively preferring the garbage in
every instance.


In a second experiment, seven bears feeding on piles of corn
were offered groups of six used tampons. Six of the bears sniffed the tampons
and then returned to their piles of corn. A yearling male tasted one of the
tampons, quickly dropped it and returned to the corn.


A third experiment placed four used tampons, an unused tampon, a tampon soaked
in non-menstrual human blood, and a tampon containing rendered beef fat in the
middle of a heavily traveled bear path with the used tampons interspersed among
the others. Ten out of ten bears ate only the tampons soaked in beef fat.


In a fourth experiment, women on different days of their period accompanied and
contacted bears who were accustomed to human interaction and were known to
investigate attractive odors. Eleven encounters involved women wearing tampons
and one woman wearing clothing through which her menstrual blood was
soaking. Of the twelve encounters with the women, the ten bears did not pay any
attention to the lower torsos of the women. Another woman wearing external pads
during two of her menstrual cycles hand-fed four female bears and walked within
two meters of adult male bears during bear mating season and did not receive
any attention.


Rogers et al. (1991) concluded that the lack of interest of the
bears to menstrual odors does not prove that such odors are never attractive to
bears (similar experiments resulted in tampon feasts by polar bears lacking
attractive buffets); however, menstrual odors essentially were ignored.


References:
Rogers, L L., G.A. Wilker, and S.S. Scott. 1991.


Reactions of black bears to human menstrual odors. J. Wildl. Manage.
55(4):632-634.


See also:


Cushing, B. 1983. Responses of polar bears to human menstrual odors. Int. Conf.
Bear Res. and Manage. 5:270-274.


Herrero, S. 1974. Conflicts between man and grizzly bears in the national parks
of North America. Int. Conf. Bear Res. and Manage. 3:121-145.


Bear attacks. Nick Lyons Books, New York, N.Y. 287pp.